Very true, it would be more just a hit to his profits. I am not saying noone should make a profit doing this. Some people value their time more than others. (i personally value my time very much), but cranking out 20 of these for ~$100 profit on each just doesn't seem right. On top of that (as Jeff mentions) the design is a direct copy of Jay's and he was a jerk to Jay when he confronted him about it. The vets deserve some respect, they do so much for members on this forum and many don't even notice most of it as lots of the helping happens via PM. I have gotten questions answered from Jeff (Flaminpyro), Jay (jayrob), Jordan (DTR), Matt (Mohrenberg) and others (especially when I was first starting), about several things I needed clarification on. To turn around and do something like this after that... I could never.