New Rayfoss 350mw laser dimmed after minutes

Alpertuner · May 17, 2010

oikos said:
btw, Alpertuner sorry that your package may have gotten there a little too fast

LOL dude nice picture.Btw the package arrived to there in 3 days Faona said that she will ship the laser this week and will check the UPS rates and she can send by UPS maybe.Yeah Im was in hurry but you are right about that i wasted 120 usd hehe its because of my hastiness

She said that she replaced the burned diode with new diode.

kingdave2357 · May 17, 2010

Lol, yeah just what I thought! She lies ALOT! She didnt change any diodes, and probably knows nothing about the diode or even how to correctly wire it. All the inside work is done by the origin manufacturer. Its not looking good for rayfoss IMO....

oikos · May 17, 2010

CAM said:
:wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf:

Kingdave2357, According to your signature, you do NOT own any Rayfoss lasers. Although I cannot vouch for the fact that you haven't done your research, this post clearly demonstrates to me that you really have no idea what you are talking about. Maybe you should try reading one of many of the GOOD Rayfoss reviews and you will see that not every Rayfoss purchase goes wrong. I'd be willing to be that you don't speak chinese. She seems to be singlehandedly taking on the personal relations department of Rayfoss and it's a huge role if your customers don't speak your native language. Mistakes happen. Yes, I have heard that many people have had issues recently. Be it a coincidence or something else... give her a break. She DOES know what she's talking about and I'm pretty sure most of the things that you consider a "lie" are simply either a miscommunication or a honest mistake.

-CAM

OMFG where have you been recently?? HAVE YOU DONE YOUR RESEARCH?? don't be taking on kingdave like that... you're a noob and look at your own signature:

"Still deciding what to get; decision is between: (Rayfoss 200mW)

www.rayfoss.com (first choice)
and
www.rayfoss.com (second place due to dramatically lower price)

Let me know if you have any expert insight to help me in my decision. "

don't be talkinng about others have YOU even had a laser from rayfoss YOUSELF?? lmao it's okay throu some people have their mind set on buying something and just want to be in denial to make themselves feel better until they get screwed! you know KISSING RAYFOSS'S ASS AIN'T GONNA GET YOU ANY DISCOUNTS :tired:

and yes, i do speak Chinese but what does that has anything to do with faona's dishonesty when she lied to numerous ppl here... if they are incompetent of doing business with English speaking ppl maybe they should hired better/more staff?? plus, English is merely a language but NUMBERS DON'T LIE! or how about IR- OR NON- IR FILTERED it doesn't take too much English to understand these lies.... (woah! what a "MISTAKE" or "A COINCIDENCE OR SOMETHING ELSE"....U FAIL!) WHY R U MAKING EXCUSES FOR THEM? wait.... your Join Date is 05-16-2010 (yesterday?)

i got two suggestions for you:

1) if you're faona trying to spam and retrieve your reputation due to Mik's thread http://laserpointerforums.com/f52/review-video-dx-sd-laser-301-rayfoss-rf532-200mw-b03-50721-2.html, GTFO :gun:

Originally Posted by Mik
Faona asks WHY I claim that Rayfoss lied to me...

Well, let me think about that for a moment.. Well, Because she lied. Pretty easy huh? ...about the power output of the laser and about installing an IR filter. I get 130mW stable, she claims 210. I can understand a difference of less than 5mW between meters, but not an 80mW difference. She says that an IR filter was installed, and there was none. She claims that a battery and charger were shipped with the laser (or atleast a battery, as she says) and there was none. Pretty simple IMO.

As for why I post it here rather than keeping it between myself and Rayfoss... It is a public service for the community of laser enthusiasts. A warning to others who may be interested in portable laser products. All in hopes of helping other enthusiasts have a more enjoyable, trouble free lasering experience.

Personally, I do not want to take any risks here in dealing with Rayfoss further. I am going to simply post it for sale with an honest description, cut my losses and move on.

"Mik,

Please udnerstand:-
We would refund customer in first 3 days after you receiving the item and return it in its initial status.
We would exchange a new item or repair the laser for you after our engineer inspection to assure the laser has not been abused in the first 3 month after you buying.
Both options Rayfoss will bear single shipping fee. As all of our items have been tested well before shipping to customers.

And we noticed you have concluded Rayfoss has lied you...why not contact us on the problem you met for a solution before you set such kind hurting and rootless conclusion? Are you our competitor? We really can not understand your dealing method...

www.rayfoss.com
Faona"

My reply:

Faona,

I don't have much faith in Rayfoss at this point, and I don't want to risk sending my underspec laser back to you before you provide me with any form of compensation. I feel that for me, it is a safer and more efficient option to sell the underspec laser on the LPF marketplace and cut my losses right now.

Thank you for your reply.

oikos · May 17, 2010

CAM said:
WOW

I'm sorry i just don't even know how to respond to such an insulting post. Really the thing that hurts me most is using my joining date as artillery against me?... It does say you only joined last month. I really don't believe I was in any way referring to you...

-CAM
:wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf:

EDIT: Thanks for posting those links for me thought... They may very well change my mind...

plz don't take it personal CAM you seem like a nice person and i just don't want u to be cheated by rayfoss only cuz of its price... but if you insist (i mean IF U HAVE TO GO RAYFOSS no matter what....) choose the FMK series cuz it's manufactured by JETLASERS and the quality is there... (i wouldnt say that it would be up-to-spec for sure but at least it's better)

here's a review: http://laserpointerforums.com/f52/rf532-200mw-fmk-ir-filter-review-over-40-pics-49489.html

but if i were you, i'll avoid rayfoss for good... gl~ AMB

kingdave2357 · May 18, 2010

Dont get upset about it oikos, he is just another clueless ignorant noob that feels he knows more than the actuall members of LPF with a decent rep. This kid also tried to -rep me as well but he doesnt have any rep power:crackup:
Cough *looser* cough:crackup:
Dont worry, I have returned the favor

kingdave2357 · May 18, 2010

I used to be a noob once too, listen im not after you personally, but I have been a member here for a decent amount of time compared to you, I know how the system works and more important I have seen companies that were considered good go bad almost over night.
You are correct I dont own any rayfoss lasers and never will, but if you look in my sig, its obvious that I go for a higher quality laser than rayfoss sells

and for a good reason.
If you want to disagree with me thats you, but dont try to -rep people based on your OPINION. It is well known that rayfoss doesnt make their own stuff, whether you want to belive it is again up to you, however I am trying to help people like you from losing money or getting ripped off. A smart consumer always heeds the warning signs from companies going bad.

Pontiacg5 · May 18, 2010

So, you leave me a negative rep saying "not considering both sides of an issue"

What issue exactly are we talking about? The fact that this poor guy bought a crappy rayfoss laser and now has to return it to get another crappy laser? I only see one side there.

Rayfoss is not as amazing as all noobs (like you) who only want to spend 100 dollars on a laser think. You don't own any lasers as far as I can tell from either rayfoss or a high quality company like CNI like I do. You don't even know what the hell divergence is for gods sake, so I would just like to know how you get off trying to leave me a negative rep while I try to keep ignorant noobs like you from wasting money on shoddy 2nd rate lasers.

You sir, need to just go buy your crappy rayfoss laser. Then when you get it in a MONTH you can post a nice thread like this very one here along the lines of "my laser quit working after 30 seconds but I can see a bright red light down the hole." Then everyone will laugh at you and then, mabye, you will listen to people who know what they are talking about from experience.

And also, as to your beloved Suzie or Faona, I can pretty much guarantee that it is some dude named Zan Lee or some other Chinese crap. The Chinese are notorious liars and will make things up at random that they think will please American buyers. Once again I know from experience, because I have delt with several Chinese sellers, and the name is Tom or Mike, or Suzie until the western union info comes, then the name is Zhan Ming Ming.

/rant

Edit: Your opinion is just that, an opinion. What you are trying to find is Fact. Just because you do not like the FACT does not mean you need to try to trash others reputation. Obviously you are so mentally handicapped that you don't even know how simple things like that AND the rep system work.

kingdave2357 · May 18, 2010

Pontiacg5 said:
So, you leave me a negative rep saying "not considering both sides of an issue"

What issue exactly are we talking about? The fact that this poor guy bought a crappy rayfoss laser and now has to return it to get another crappy laser? I only see one side there.

Rayfoss is not as amazing as all noobs (like you) who only want to spend 100 dollars on a laser think. You don't own any lasers as far as I can tell from either rayfoss or a high quality company like CNI like I do. You don't even know what the hell divergence is for gods sake, so I would just like to know how you get off trying to leave me a negative rep while I try to keep ignorant noobs like you from wasting money on shoddy 2nd rate lasers.

You sir, need to just go buy your crappy rayfoss laser. Then when you get it in a MONTH you can post a nice thread like this very one here along the lines of "my laser quit working after 30 seconds but I can see a bright red light down the hole." Then everyone will laugh at you and then, mabye, you will listen to people who know what they are talking about from experience.

And also, as to your beloved Suzie, I can pretty much guarantee that it is some dude named Zan Lee or some other Chinese crap. The Chinese are notorious liars and will make things up at random that they think will please American buyers. Once again I know from experience, because I have delt with several Chinese sellers, and the name is Tom or Mike, or Suzie until the western union info comes, then the name is Zhan Ming Ming.

/rant

Edit: Your opinion is just that, an opinion. What you are trying to find is Fact. Just because you do not like the FACT does not mean you need to try to trash others reputation. Obviously you are so mentally handicapped that you don't even know how simple things like that AND the rep system work.

Literally just took the words right of my keyboard:beer:

CAM said:
Maybe they do resell things and I never said they didn't but when you call me a noob and "*loser*" because I am telling MY opinion that's a whole lot better reason for a minus rep than when you minus rep ME because I am trying to STATE MY OPINION

Just sickening... :barf:

Really... take a min and go back and read what you've said...
You de-rep me because I de-rep you (or tried) for being "disreputable."

I have not said anything wrong... Simply my opinion... you however are being stereotypical and it really hurts.

-CAM

Nah, your sickening! I wouldnt have even came back here to argue with you had you not tried to rep me! I would not have even posted about it, but you had to try to rep me, you did it to your self. You can have your own opinion, that is perfectly fine, but dont try to force it on others, dont neg rep others based on your opinion, and do go around starting arguments with more experienced members, ESPECIALLY when your still a noob! If you had read some threads on the green laser and company section youd know why rayfoss is now having problems.
Now like I said in your rep, READ MORE and POST LESS

oikos · May 18, 2010

i returned the favor! this guy is asking for it!

we may not own a rayfoss... why? not because we can't own one it's because we refuse to own one!! if we have the ability to afford one, why wouldn't we buy one?? because we learn from other's mistake! i don't want to repeat my links anymore! GO READ! if you want to get RAYFOWNED that bad! GO FOR IT just don't come back crying..

my conclusion? you tried to use the rep system without knowing anything about it! and now you're trying to use a laser the same way! I DON'T THINK U'RE READY FOR A LASER YET! :tsk::tsk::tsk::tsk::tsk::tsk::tsk:

Pontiacg5 · May 18, 2010

CAM said:
Where again did I not know what divergence is?

CAM

In post 103 in this very same thread. Anybody that "Knows a lot more than I think" should know that, yes, lower divergence is better.

You joined 2 days ago, and in those two days you have posted 51 posts. In my opinion you are borderline spammer troll.

If you have been reading posts here for so long you would know that this is not the first rayfoss laser that has mysteriously stopped working. If it was, I would have considered it a mistake and that would be that. But (once again if you have been reading so much) you would notice that there are several posts on crappy rayfoss lasers breaking in the first minutes and being incredibly underpowered.

No Sir (noob,) YOU need to take the blinders off and look around. RAYFOSS is CRAP. You can try and try to make them look decent, but when you finally get that laser (after a month of waiting on it in the mail) you will know how crappy they are. Just because they are the only lasers you can afford does not mean that others cannot state their opinions based on fact.

You also need to learn the definition of Censorship. How old are you anyway, 12?

I've been around since Oikos first showed up, and already he knows the truth about rayfoss. What is so hard for you to understand?

oikos · May 18, 2010

kingdave2357 said:
Literally just took the words right of my keyboard:beer:

Nah, your sickening! I wouldnt have even came back here to argue with you had you not tried to rep me! I would not have even posted about it, but you had to try to rep me, you did it to your self. You can have your own opinion, that is perfectly fine, but dont try to force it on others, dont neg rep others based on your opinion, and do go around starting arguments with more experienced members, ESPECIALLY when your still a noob! If you had read some threads on the green laser and company section youd know why rayfoss is now having problems.
Now like I said in your rep, READ MORE and POST LESS

kingdave! that was exactly what i thought lolol i was gonnna tell you to leave this one to me hahaha :crackup:

@Pontiacg5 thanx for the nice PRE-GAME SHOW for making CAM look like a clown 1 hour before the LAKERS start their ass whipping :thanks:

oikos · May 18, 2010

No Sir (noob,) YOU need to take the blinders off and look around

perhaps he's got the focalprice safety goggles on before even receiving his rayfoss laser

*nice goggles thou*

Pontiacg5 · May 18, 2010

Are you lazy and don't read or just dumb? This whole post as well as another one are pretty much centered around how hard it is to return a laser to rayfoss for repair. They will respond as fast as can be when you are inquiring about buying a laser, but when you change the subject to fixing a broken one the e-mails slow or stop.

"on the rare occasion" are you serious....

Dude, you need to search and read. If you did you would know why we distrust and despise rayfoss so much. Do you think we all just go around saying rayfoss sucks because we can? I don't think so! There is a reason, it is posted all over this forum. It is not censored! Search and you shall find!

I'm done talking to you now, good day!

And the rep system is pretty easy. If you like something someone has done; pictures, funny post, nice guide, you give them a postive rep. If someone spams, posts incorrect information, acts like a jackass (for no reason) or something similar, you give them a negative rep. Not too many people ever find it necessary to leave a negative rep. Just disagreeing on something is not reason for a negative rep.

kingdave2357 · May 18, 2010

This is exactly what I was afraid was going to happen, noobs come here and see rayfoss' great past reputation and all the 'talk up' of them, and go to order, not reading the sections with the warnings. We are trying to spread the word to prevent people from getting stuck, even if rayfoss does fix it eventually, its a painstaking process that you wouldnt want to be a part of.

Faona knows about LPF, and know she had a nice rep, and I know some members used LPF to try and get better service from her, so it wouldnt surprise me if she would make an accout here and try to re-gain some customers.

Rep system goes by how many people rep you and how many rep power they have. For instance I have 19 rep power, so If I +rep someone they get 19 rep POINTS from me, but only half of that for a -rep. Rep points add up, and you can see how many you have at the bottom of your rep page. the more you get the more rep power you will have. If you go below 0 you get a red bar.

EDIT: good job with the rayfoss warning guys, keep up the good work, we have to inform the community!

rpaloalto · May 18, 2010

Boy I sure regret accidentally + reping you CAM when I actually was trying to + Kingdave.

Your making out to be a smart ass. You sure wont last long around LPF.
If I were you I would just leave now. Come back in a few days under a different user name.

DJNY · May 18, 2010

We shouldn´t be little pussys and cry about everything someone says. We should give a f*** about, sit back, relax and let ourselves go :beer:

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