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Spyder 3 Krapton - 1W of green power from WL

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Re: Spyder 3 Krypton - 1W of green power from WL

if WL ordered their modules from CNI as speculated by RA_piece, shouldn't the product be very good if you expect high prices and a 500mw laser?
my guess for the price is well over 600$
 





Re: Spyder 3 Krypton - 1W of green power from WL

joshshermannn1 said:
if WL ordered their modules from CNI as speculated by RA_piece, shouldn't the product be very good if you expect high prices and a 500mw laser?
my guess for the price is well over 600$
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Possibly, but it's still possible that they may source components from another manufacturer. Also, CNI can manufacture whatever quality you want. For example, Laserglow's stuff is some of the best, but that is because they have strict QC and have their lasers manufactured to a higher standard. Some people who order direct from CNI get duds (including me, once).

I would have to agree that the duty cycle will be poor.
Remember that DPSS is much less tolerant of temperature changes than a direct diode laser. Also, DPSS 532nm is less efficient.
I owned a PGL-III-C once as I mentioned above and even though it had significantly more mass than the Spyder III, the recommended duty cycle from CNI was 60 seconds on, but in practice, the laser remained relatively stable for only about 3-4 minutes, typically.

IMO, if they want to call it a >500mW laser, it should sustain no less than 500mW for the entire advertised duty cycle. The same goes for 1W.
I am interested to see how it turns out and I hope it turns out well. If the price is right I may have to order one in the future.
Despite their recent poor customer service and controversial (albeit effective) advertising tactics, the items I purchased from WL in 2010 were of good quality.
 
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RA_pierce said:
items I purchased from WL in 2010 were of good quality.
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You were one of the rare few. I made this thread, and all the complaints were in 2010. There were many more complaints deleted, and posted since then. I also posted complaints from as far back as 2007.

http://laserpointerforums.com/f65/32-reasons-not-buy-wicked-lasers-arctic-s3-56289.html

I wouldnt trust, or give my money to such a POS company. They lie constantly. Use marketing tactics that hurt our hobby. And have little to no customer support. I dont know about you, but you'd have to be a moron to buy anything from WL.
 
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Amazingly the price seems to be 299$, same as the S3. That's what I saw on their Facebook page anyways. All the more reason to be doubtful, I look forward to seeing reviews on here. Hopefully WL will give out a model for testing to someone here :whistle:

Edit: The article on FB says "Starting at 299$" whatever that means. Do you have to pay extra to actually get 1w? :crackup:
 
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Lol. Their ad ends with the words "Get the brightest laser you can legally own."

There's not many places where >5mW is legal... let alone >500mW

Lase

EDIT: They also claim that The Krypton is legal in Washinton DC. Now I'm not from America but i'm dead sure that there is no way that a laser of that power would be legal in the political centre.
 
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True, that's a pretty scummy business tactic. If someone in the US or elsewhere gets their "Legal" laser confiscated by customs it's pretty much ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ thanks for the 300$!
 
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Anatomy said:
EDIT: They also claim that The Krypton is legal in Washinton DC. Now I'm not from America but i'm dead sure that there is no way that a laser of that power would be legal in the political centre.
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Wouldn't surprise me at all. Chances are they will sell several models, just as they do now, differentiated by power levels, and a ridiculous markup.
 
Re: Spyder 3 Krypton - 1W of green power from WL

I believe I saw it priced at $999.95 for <1 watt, $499.95 for <500mW, and $299.95 for <300mW
 
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Proof will come... 'till then Who cares? :tired: -GH
 
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Tech_Junkie said:
You were one of the rare few. I made this thread, and all the complaints were in 2010. There were many more complaints deleted, and posted since then. I also posted complaints from as far back as 2007.

http://laserpointerforums.com/f65/32-reasons-not-buy-wicked-lasers-arctic-s3-56289.html

I wouldnt trust, or give my money to such a POS company. They lie constantly. Use marketing tactics that hurt our hobby. And have little to no customer support. I dont know about you, but you'd have to be a moron to buy anything from WL.
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So if I want to get powerful high quality lasers, where should I get them? (and not make them)
 
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Gofilord said:
So if I want to get powerful high quality lasers, where should I get them? (and not make them)
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For 445nm Blue, 650nm Red, or 405nm Purple, I'd go with one of the builders here. All these guys make far superior lasers than the Chinese. For 532nm Green, Opto, Dragon, or Laserglow.
 
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scopeguy20 said:
Proof will come... 'till then Who cares? :tired: -GH
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Well Glenn and TJ, proof will come, and it is just speculation until then... but... people wont want to find out when they get their laser and its only 240mW and not 1,000. That's why people care till then, they learn what they should expect when dealing with a certain company lke WICKED. And from coming here and listening to people, they will learn that if they order this so called 1W laser for $1000 that they are mentally braindead, and never had a chance at life anyways.
 
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RA_pierce said:
I just want to point out a few things:

WickedLasers now advertises all their lasers by the max and min power. The "300mW" E3, for example, is "150-300mW." The 1W Spyder will likely be "500-1000mW." That leaves a big, ambiguous, 500mW hole that you can fill with your hopes and dreams.

Secondly, 1W peak portable 532nm lasers are not impossible to make. Sustaining that power is the hard part.
When WL first introduced their 2010 series lasers, they had for sale a 400mW Spyder III. A few members here received some units to review and one peaked in the 700s.
On top of that, long ago I owned a 400mW PGL-III-C from CNI that peaked in the 800s and sustained >650mW, so I know it is possible to produce absurdly powerful portable DPSS greenies today. My guess is that CNI will be the primary manufacturer of the modules that WL uses. The most likely scenario I foresee is that WL asks CNI to manufacture a batch of >500mW modules, in which case anyone who buys the 1W 532nm Spyder should expect a >500mW laser, not a >1W laser. But that is just speculation.

Which brings me to my last point - maybe they will make a great laser, maybe they won't. Until something is actually produced, there is not really any point discussing what we think it might be.
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after you explained your point lol... just teasing. :beer:
 
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jakeGT said:
Well Glenn and TJ, proof will come, and it is just speculation until then... but... people wont want to find out when they get their laser and its only 240mW and not 1,000. That's why people care till then, they learn what they should expect when dealing with a certain company lke WICKED. And from coming here and listening to people, they will learn that if they order this so called 1W laser for $1000 that they are mentally braindead, and never had a chance at life anyways.
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In reality we are promoting WL by keep bumping this thread.

People are going to buy their lasers no matter what we say because its just all empty opinion. Until we have some solid, real world results, there is nothing backing up our opinion of the laser. In other words, we are talking out of our a$$.

We already went through this before the Arctic was released. You were not here yet, Me, Glenn, RA, and most of the other vets were. Only until we had some FACTS did people start canceling orders.

Understand now? Sorry, not trying to be rude, just clear.
 
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You weren't rude TJ, Im not that soft ;)

But no, I agree. My bet is once (if) it comes out , the same thing as the arctic will happen, Just less customers at that price tag
 
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