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Re: pseudonomen137 scammed me out of $425!
If that's how you feel, that's up to you. At this point we're entering the realm of opinion. I make mistakes, companies make mistakes - no doubt about it. I make many mistakes that don't reach the public forum, and I deal with them all pretty well IMO.
At the same time, I criticize many companies, and take a lot of flack for it. Still, we here at LPF aren't idiots. We know its no mistake warnlasers posted a fake/stolen ILDA cert on their site. We know its no mistake when a majority of the lasers a company sends out are underspec.
You seem to suggest that no one should ever criticize anyone. I don't deny I have an agenda against companies like warnlaser, I'm quite open about that actually. Do you dare say I'm not justified? Because I shipped out a laser I measured as in-spec, but unfortunately turned out underspec by the time it got to the customer, I lose the right to ever criticize a scammer? If you believe that, that's your deal but don't bring it to my doorstep.
If I were to deal with hundreds of customers, I would be responsible for handling each and every one the same way I do now. If I were planning on stepping up to that level, I would probably have to hire additional help like most of the big companies out there, and I would be responsible for the actions of my employees. Just because a company is big, they don't earn my pity to rip off customers - again, that's another belief where we apparently disagree. In fact, that's why I never plan on being a big company. I'm sure if I really wanted to do this for a living I could try, but this is and only ever will be a hobby. My finances do not depend on it, and in fact this hobby normally just sucks away my $$. I like dealing with customers one and one and already I'm getting to my limits of carrying on that, a job, and a life - a sign I need to do less laser stuff in general. You won't see the aspirations of a big company out of me.
Now really, do we need to continue this pointless argument? I don't feel like attacking your character, but you're acting like you deserve it more than me (and that's saying a lot!)...
If that's how you feel, that's up to you. At this point we're entering the realm of opinion. I make mistakes, companies make mistakes - no doubt about it. I make many mistakes that don't reach the public forum, and I deal with them all pretty well IMO.
At the same time, I criticize many companies, and take a lot of flack for it. Still, we here at LPF aren't idiots. We know its no mistake warnlasers posted a fake/stolen ILDA cert on their site. We know its no mistake when a majority of the lasers a company sends out are underspec.
You seem to suggest that no one should ever criticize anyone. I don't deny I have an agenda against companies like warnlaser, I'm quite open about that actually. Do you dare say I'm not justified? Because I shipped out a laser I measured as in-spec, but unfortunately turned out underspec by the time it got to the customer, I lose the right to ever criticize a scammer? If you believe that, that's your deal but don't bring it to my doorstep.
If I were to deal with hundreds of customers, I would be responsible for handling each and every one the same way I do now. If I were planning on stepping up to that level, I would probably have to hire additional help like most of the big companies out there, and I would be responsible for the actions of my employees. Just because a company is big, they don't earn my pity to rip off customers - again, that's another belief where we apparently disagree. In fact, that's why I never plan on being a big company. I'm sure if I really wanted to do this for a living I could try, but this is and only ever will be a hobby. My finances do not depend on it, and in fact this hobby normally just sucks away my $$. I like dealing with customers one and one and already I'm getting to my limits of carrying on that, a job, and a life - a sign I need to do less laser stuff in general. You won't see the aspirations of a big company out of me.
Now really, do we need to continue this pointless argument? I don't feel like attacking your character, but you're acting like you deserve it more than me (and that's saying a lot!)...
MadeInUSA said:Carter,
Then its fair to say, since you are selling underpowered lasers then your "true colors" are showing as well. If a company sells you or gives you a free laser and its underpowered, there apology doesnt seem to work with you, so why should yours when you sell underpowered units to your customers?
Think about it, people make mistakes, companies make mistakes, but when you make one, you go on and on about how you are so deserving of a bad sale and you can undersell product and make yourself look oh so concerned but only as long as its you and your interests. You have to give bad press on anyone or anything that doesnt match up to your agenda.
It's also fair to say that once your grow beyond expectations and can no longer handle dealing with 100 times the orders per month, you too will be victim to consumers saying how your company used to be good and used to be great and hopes you can change back to what was once a good company, so really in effect what you perceive in WL or any other company is what your future will become. You have a reputation to uphold, I dont. Good luck dealing with thickle kids and consumers in the laser industry!