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lol oh I fully agree on that
 

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You're looking in the wrong places...I know plenty of woman like that, but I must also add that when going on dates, especially when just getting to know someone, bringing up guns knives and lasers is just a creepy topic for a first time or even a second time meeting lol.
Yeah it's at a much later point, " Will You Marry Me??? Yes!.... Well 1st I need to Explain one of my Hobbies before we talk about anything else...." You Play with What/Why?!?!?
 

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Yeah it's at a much later point, " Will You Marry Me??? Yes!.... Well 1st I need to Explain one of my Hobbies before we talk about anything else...." You Play with What/Why?!?!?
lmao you got to find decent middle ground...not too soon, not too late, it also helps if you pick woman with similiar interests...dont pick a girl who loves to shop and go clubbing then be surprised when she hates camping, you know? men get too focused on a pretty girl and not what shes about.
 

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lmao you got to find decent middle ground...not too soon, not too late, it also helps if you pick woman with similiar interests...dont pick a girl who loves to shop and go clubbing then be surprised when she hates camping, you know? men get too focused on a pretty girl and not what shes about.

What?? We are suppose to Pay attention to what they Think??? And Talk to them about what We "Really" are Thinking and Want?!?! You'll never get a woman doing that! :p


"Reality:" Honestly the way most Men think Now a days They Will Never get a woman to Respect Them. Most Men Allow themselves to be Corrupted by this Worlds "Man" Thinking and turn into such Pricks that they will just keep changing Sex partners Until they die and Never have True Love and Companionship. This Worlds Morals Are Down the Toilet and Stink just the same.
 

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@Krogith

It's not only the men who are corrupted. Girls are just as bad, I'll probably get flamed for saying this, but NYC girls are in a vast majority of cases stuck up b_t_h_s. (Note I said vast majority, not ALL)
 

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if you are looking for a relationship you gotta be yourself. don't bring you "representative" on your first date.

if you are just trying to crush some strange then you gotta bring in the rep lol.

michael
 

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What?? We are suppose to Pay attention to what they Think??? And Talk to them about what We "Really" are Thinking and Want?!?! You'll never get a woman doing that! :p


"Reality:" Honestly the way most Men think Now a days They Will Never get a woman to Respect Them. Most Men Allow themselves to be Corrupted by this Worlds "Man" Thinking and turn into such Pricks that they will just keep changing Sex partners Until they die and Never have True Love and Companionship. This Worlds Morals Are Down the Toilet and Stink just the same.
Parents just doing a piss poor job of teaching their kids respect and discipline, but in a world where both parents have to work 40 hour shifts to make ends meet, the only person there to teach kids half the time is the Television...hence all the jersey shore type men we have out there.
 

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if you are looking for a relationship you gotta be yourself. don't bring you "representative" on your first date.

if you are just trying to crush some strange then you gotta bring in the rep lol.

michael
:crackup::crackup::crackup:

Can't speak for others, but for myself, first dates where I went as "myself" ended as disasters.

Guess I'll stick to crushing some strange as you put it:)
 

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if you are looking for a relationship you gotta be yourself. don't bring you "representative" on your first date.

if you are just trying to crush some strange then you gotta bring in the rep lol.

michael
its true to be honest and upfront about things, but I often see guys do it in all the wrong ways really, Like for example I like to do Archery, i've yet to recieve a negative comment on it because I usually dont go on dates and go 'I DO ARCHERY AND I LIKE SHOOTING STUFF VERY QUIETLY, I HAVE MY BOW IN THE CAR, WANT TO SEE IT!?!?!?!' lol.
 

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Parents just doing a piss poor job of teaching their kids respect and discipline, but in a world where both parents have to work 40 hour shifts to make ends meet, the only person there to teach kids half the time is the Television...hence all the jersey shore type men we have out there.
Don't forget all the jersey shore girls. They are fun for a night out and an evening in(I don't mean dinner and watching a movie;)), but that's about it.
 

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Don't forget all the jersey shore girls. They are fun for a night out and an evening in(I don't mean dinner and watching a movie;)), but that's about it.
I still don't see what the hell people see in Snooki, and almost every Jersey girl I ever dated is insane, I think that state was built on radioactive materials or something.
 

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I still don't see what the hell people see in Snooki, and almost every Jersey girl I ever dated is insane, I think that state was built on radioactive materials or something.
I think most guys like to think of seeing the top of her head ;) To be honest I'm confused why any girls like her though. I'm also dumbfounded as to why the show is successful. Than again, so is Jackass.

Without exception every single shore girl I've ever been with has been a nut.

Don't categorize the whole of NJ like that though, I live here and don't quite set off the Geiger counter :)
 

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What?? We are suppose to Pay attention to what they Think??? And Talk to them about what We "Really" are Thinking and Want?!?! You'll never get a woman doing that! :p
You're with the wrong women. ;)

"Reality:" Honestly the way most Men think Now a days They Will Never get a woman to Respect Them. Most Men Allow themselves to be Corrupted by this Worlds "Man" Thinking and turn into such Pricks that they will just keep changing Sex partners Until they die and Never have True Love and Companionship. This Worlds Morals Are Down the Toilet and Stink just the same.

@Krogith

It's not only the men who are corrupted. Girls are just as bad, I'll probably get flamed for saying this, but NYC girls are in a vast majority of cases stuck up b_t_h_s. (Note I said vast majority, not ALL)
Parents just doing a piss poor job of teaching their kids respect and discipline, but in a world where both parents have to work 40 hour shifts to make ends meet, the only person there to teach kids half the time is the Television...hence all the jersey shore type men we have out there.
OK, let's play the moral-hammering game, because i love arguing with people (1 rule: If you're offended, say so and we can stop).

I think there is one fundamental principle that everyone is missing here: Contraception. There are morals that exist as either evolutionary or social dregs from a time when sex meant babies and sex outside of a relationship meant babies that were poorly looked after. This is not the case now, so we can isolate sex from babies and ultimately the potential is there to isolate sex from relationships... although it's unlikely that'll ever happen completely.

That said, if the morals you were considering that the majority of the population aren't taught are "Work hard in school, get a job that requires some form of intelligence, don't have children until you've entered into a stable relationship in which you have a source of income" then, yeah, i agree with you. It's either the parents, or the society in which the children grow up. Or, alternatively, their genes (but that's both very unlikely and an argument for another time). But it's one thing to complain about it, in reality there's nothing we can do to change it or sort it out because you can't change the way a parent brings up their child, it can't (easily) be done. So there is only one thing left to do; instead of complain and feel bitter about it, gain a sense of superiority from it.

Alternatively, we could implement my crazy new layout for the whole of society, but i'm not going to post that here in public and if anyone's interested we'll have to discuss it by PM (and you wouldn't be the first).


...Fun lecture :D Feel free to argue with me, i enjoy it.
 

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My gripe is primarily with unrealistic expectations. I'm guilty of having some too. Anyway, I'll write a longer response later.

BTW, there is a big difference between an argument and a debate... what I assume you like are debates. Unfortunately there isn't too much to disagree on in this situation.
 

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You're with the wrong women. ;)








OK, let's play the moral-hammering game, because i love arguing with people (1 rule: If you're offended, say so and we can stop).

I think there is one fundamental principle that everyone is missing here: Contraception. There are morals that exist as either evolutionary or social dregs from a time when sex meant babies and sex outside of a relationship meant babies that were poorly looked after. This is not the case now, so we can isolate sex from babies and ultimately the potential is there to isolate sex from relationships... although it's unlikely that'll ever happen completely.

That said, if the morals you were considering that the majority of the population aren't taught are "Work hard in school, get a job that requires some form of intelligence, don't have children until you've entered into a stable relationship in which you have a source of income" then, yeah, i agree with you. It's either the parents, or the society in which the children grow up. Or, alternatively, their genes (but that's both very unlikely and an argument for another time). But it's one thing to complain about it, in reality there's nothing we can do to change it or sort it out because you can't change the way a parent brings up their child, it can't (easily) be done. So there is only one thing left to do; instead of complain and feel bitter about it, gain a sense of superiority from it.

Alternatively, we could implement my crazy new layout for the whole of society, but i'm not going to post that here in public and if anyone's interested we'll have to discuss it by PM (and you wouldn't be the first).


...Fun lecture :D Feel free to argue with me, i enjoy it.
@JaiNobeZ

My gripe is primarily with unrealistic expectations. I'm guilty of having some too. Anyway, I'll write a longer response later.

BTW, there is a big difference between an argument and a debate... what I assume you like are debates. Unfortunately there isn't too much to disagree on in this situation.
I think that is THE Problem.

Most people "Expect" The Love story, the Novel, where Your Swept off your feet and everything is Easy and Fun and Exciting

Real Relationships Take Work, and most people are to lazy to do It, And see that the Grass looks Greener over there than where they are sitting....

And then on top of that, A Real Relationship takes Commitment! Most people in this world as you say "JaiNobeZ" isolate sex from relationships.

People are out to have "FUN" and not trying to form a Committed Relationship with people. And In the USA we have a HUGE prostitution Problem where 40 % of the Male population do it and 1/2 of them with underage little girls. This also makes it more of a Society that isn't focused on the family Structure. Internet Pornography is Huge as well. Think about it Old world man had to go to some location where that dirty stuff went on, Now everyone can do it in there own home and go to the sickest sites and no one knows. This is also a Main contributor of this Issue as well.

If you Really think about it, all of our Products and Commercials center around the Mans Penis and Sex Sells has been the Bull Horn of our Culture. and now we are Reaping what Corrupted Man has Sown....
 
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