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"First Look" at The 500mW Mitsubishi ML501P73 635nm/638nm diode is in.!

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I thought I would add to the ML Red frenzy !!! It IS possible to optically beam correct these diodes…in a pointer format !!! At one time…I thought the 445 could also benefit from optical correction….for a pointer application. That was big time over kill !!! The O-Like glass aspherical does a more than adequate job…for the 445. The ML series is NOT that lucky !!! Without beam correction that goes beyond the 405-G-2 lens….the divergence is over 8 mR….your basic fan !!

It is well known… that the ML beam can be corrected with cylindrical lenses….one plano concave and one plano convex. I have read some comments which suggest this beam correction solution cannot be applied to the ML series.... IN A HANDHELD FORMAT.

Although I have not machined the components shown in the attached drawings…I see NO reason this design cannot be done. The resulting beam will be very close to the collimated 445 LD….at about 1.2 mR divergence !!! I have done the set up in a bench style unit. (See Pic )

The Guidesman 21 would be a good host for the necessary optics...although a more compact host…such as the Tank 007…or many others… would perhaps provide a smaller profile. Regardless…take a look at the design.

A typical 12 x 30 Aixiz module does not provide a tight enough fit between the M9threaded lens and mount….so a custom brass unit must be machined. The demands of the beam correction optics require that the collimation lens be completely centered. A loose or taped fit will not due in this application. The mount which holds the correction optics could be machined from clear acrylic. These optics would be set in place with epoxy.
Anyway…with the new work being done with the 500 mW plus ML501P73 diodes….it seems as though a beam correction for handhelds will be desireable !!! This is just one way to do it…that I know will work !!

CDBEAM
 

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Re: The 500mW Mitsubishi ML501P73 635nm/638nm diode is in

Nice work CDBEAM! I would kill to have a 635 with that divergence! Off to search for a host that can accommodate the optics :)
 
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Alright Guys here is some picks down range of the "Dot".:crackup:


AR coated Acrylic Lens 8 feet
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AR coated Acrylic Lens 8 feet
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AR coated Acrylic Lens 8 feet
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Here is the AR Coated Acrylic Lens at 27 feet in millimeters
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Here is the AR COated Acrylic Lens at 27 feet in inches
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AR coated Acrylic Lens - De Focused
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Now I will Do with the G1 Lens. (The G2 i see NO DIFFERENCE.)

405-G-1 Lens at 8 Feet
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405-G-1 Lens at 8 Feet
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405-G-1 Lens at 27 Feet
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405-G-1 lens - De Focused
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Now i will show The 500mW & 300mW Mitsubishi side by side.

Both laser are using the AR Coated Acrylic Len. The "300mW" is running at a little more then 330mW and the 500mW is running at ~450mW.

At 8 Feet "300mW on the Left 500mW on the RIght"
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At 8 Feet "300mW on the Left 500mW on the RIght"
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At 20 Feet "500mW on the Left 300mW on the RIght"
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The 500mW is Just alittle bit worse then the 300mW from the looks of it. However its not drastic.

Iam going to take some better comparison shots of the 2 when my camera charges up again.:)

Also I do not have a spectrometer but i do have diffraction gratings."Best i can do" My ML501P73 "500mW version" is in a Custom host that has modes and i can select from different output Power. I will see if i can shot a video with the diffraction grating of both the 300mW and the 500mW and switch through the modes of the 500mW build and see if it shifts at all when i get up to Max power. As Right now i have it at near 1W with a G1 lens.:eg:


Thats it for now.:)

Thank You.
 
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Great work showing all the testing and comparisons... :gj:

Thanks for sharing with pictures and detailed information.

I'll bet these bad boys are tough as nails like the 445's.

I was expecting better efficiency though. (power vs current in comparison to the 300mW diodes)

I have a normal efficiency 300mW diode at 800mA's, and it is 600mW's. (but that's with a 650-G-1 lens - which is better for this wavelength vs 405-G-1)

I think it's the lens that's throwing the numbers off for me, because I see in one of your pictures that you have over 1100mW's @ 1600mA's with 405-G-1.

I could have sworn you had gotten a 650-G-1 lens from me??
 
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Great work showing all the testing and comparisons... :gj:

Thanks for sharing with pictures and detailed information.

I'll bet these bad boys are tough as nails like the 445's.

I was expecting better efficiency though. (power vs current in comparison to the 300mW diodes)

I have a normal efficiency 300mW diode at 800mA's, and it is 600mW's. (but that's with a 650-G-1 lens - which is better for this wavelength vs 405-G-1)

I think it's the lens that's throwing the numbers off for me, because I see in one of your pictures that you have over 1100mW's @ 1600mA's with 405-G-1.

I could have sworn you had gotten a 650-G-1 lens from me??

Thanks Jay. I appreciate the kind words.:) Glad you found this thread helpful.:)

You might be getting 600mW with a G1 with the 300mW version but i can guaranty you that its not stable at 600mW for too long.

These 500mW are stable all the way up to MAX OUT unlike the 300mW that drop off like crazy once they peak.

I have this one right now running at ~1.5A putting out a peak of ~950mW and its Rock solid pretty much and only drops ~30mW IIRC within 2 minutes IF THAT. Probebly less. I have to re test i cant remember. Ill shot you another LPM test and even show the 405-G1 lens in the video So you can see for yourself it is a 405-G1 lens.;) Its one of the 2 that i just bought from you last time. Just the bare lenses. Remember.:p

Yep that right Jay, over 1100mW with a 405-G-1 lens.:)

I have never bought a 650-G-1 lens in my life. I have only bought G1&G2.
 
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Thanks Jay. I appreciate the kind words.:) Glad you found this thread helpful.:)

You might be getting 600mW with a G1 with the 300mW version but i can guaranty you that its not stable at 600mW for too long.

These 500mW are stable all the way up to MAX OUT unlike the 300mW that drop off like crazy once they peak.

I have this one right now running at ~1.5A putting out a peak of ~950mW and its Rock solid pretty much and only drops ~30mW IIRC within 2 minutes IF THAT. Probebly less. I have to re test i cant remember. Ill shot you another LPM test and even show the 405-G1 lens in the video So you can see for yourself it is a 405-G1 lens.;) Its one of the 2 that i just bought from you last time. Just the bare lenses. Remember.:p

Yep that right Jay, over 1100mW with a 405-G-1 lens.:)

I have never bought a 650-G-1 lens in my life. I have only bought G1&G2.

That bad boy is begging for a 650-G-1 glass lens...
 
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Just Bought One.:p
 
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Is it too soon to start asking about the ML5CP50 ;) ?
 
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First...LaZeRz...thanx !! This ML LD truly needs correction...The Cylinderical lenses run 45 USD from Drlava...plus the machine time involved for the mounts !!! Plus the 100+ USD cost of the diode !! Adds up to... $$$....Pay your $$ and make your choices !! My post was to illustrate that the concept is workable.

Second...rhd...What is a ML5CP50 ????? and ????? Info PLEASE !!! Thanx CDBEAM

Edit...OK...I see that this ML5CP50 is a Bar Array.....Huge PO...Huge Beam !! Likely needs lotsa cooling !!
 
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Let me know if you need a TEC, LAZEERER. I have those CPU types, as well as the high- end Power Technology Modules with Fan & TEC we discussed. I was also going to bring up the 650-G lenses.
 
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Let me know if you need a TEC, LAZEERER. I have those CPU types, as well as the high- end Power Technology Modules with Fan & TEC we discussed. I was also going to bring up the 650-G lenses.

Ill give you a call or Email me.:)





@CDBEAM777

How well will the Dr. Lava correction optics work.?
 
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Drlava cylinderical lenses do a fair job at correcting the beam. Lava's lenses...coupled with a 2.9 fL aspherical collimation lens will deliver a 1.16mR divergence. This would produce an 8mm spot ( about 3/8 " ) at 20 ' Not quite as good as a 445 LD with an O-like glass....but close !!! Attached are a corrected beam and an uncorrected beam of the ML520G71 at 14 '. Sorry for the crap photos. Best I have right now. In my opinion....fine for a handheld !! I believe the ML501P73 will respond to the Lava optics in the same fashion.

BEAM
 

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Re: The 500mW Mitsubishi ML501P73 635nm/638nm diode is in

Wow! That corrected spot looks great!
 
Re: The 500mW Mitsubishi ML501P73 635nm/638nm diode is in

Drlava cylinderical lenses do a fair job at correcting the beam. Lava's lenses...coupled with a 2.9 fL aspherical collimation lens will deliver a 1.16mR divergence. This would produce an 8mm spot ( about 3/8 " ) at 20 ' Not quite as good as a 445 LD with an O-like glass....but close !!! Attached are a corrected beam and an uncorrected beam of the ML520G71 at 14 '. Sorry for the crap photos. Best I have right now. In my opinion....fine for a handheld !! I believe the ML501P73 will respond to the Lava optics in the same fashion.

BEAM

Thank You for the Pictures. Where can i pick some up. I dont see it on his site.?
 
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See this site....


http://hacylon.case.edu/ebay/laser_diode/Lenses.php


This was the GB site....but I do NOT know if it is operational !!!....Other cylinderical lenses
of the same optical properties could be used....but these are perfect for a very small foot print to be used in a HH !! Send Drlava a PM also !!! I believe he has some sets left...but I am not sure !! Perhaps I will use a Guidesman and build one....but...might as well wait for the ML01P73 to do so....That will be the Full Monty !! I

One note...the distance between the Plano Concave and the Plano Convex MUST be right on. If not correct...the beam spot will be unfocused and ...a blur !! There are ways to incorporate adjustment into the acrylic mount...simple ways. It can be done...I am sure.

BEAM
 


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