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In post #87 you state "2. When a laser is "too pricey", I consider it a scam. Would you pay $100 for a high quality 5mW? I know that that's an exaggeration, but not too far off. The techlasers 95mW is $230. The Novalasers X100 (which should be very overspec anyway) is the same price. Plus, novalasers sells much better quality products."
Really? I think it's a bit of a matter for the individual buyer to decide really.
So, For example Is OEM Laser Systems "Scamming" when they offer a "variable power 593.5 nm 20 mW peak output Portable for ~$1900 (before shipping), although the GB I do will get you that same laser for many $100's less?
Also, some updating of your posts in several areas I believe is warranted
e.g. : Is WL really scamming?, even though they send replacements and products in general faster than LG or Optotronics, just because the offer a fancy 5mW Spyder III for ~$100? Or other higher end lasers that , if you look are about the same general costs as LG, Opto, and OEM Systems? I think it would serve the people better for you to update the BAD list, as some companies are doing much better and some are new and terrible, and I think price alone is not a clear indication of being a "Scam" btw, I have wanted to buy WL's Spyder III 5mW just for the host at ~$100!
I have had as much trouble with CNI as several folks have said they have had with WL, and yet, I still try to work with their poor communication, poor cooperation, quality slip-ups and in general slow service. They and in my experience WL, should not be labeled "Skammers"
Also, all DPSS lasers have inherent characteristics such as variability with temperature and other conditions, and those folks judging the lasers are often times quite ignorant of all the in's and out's of lasers, but really I think it serves us all better to try to see things from a more enlightened perspective. I do not claim to be a car performance expert, just because I drive and have about a million miles of driving experience, and I don't like it when today's American cars are judged on what American cars were like in the 70's. All laser companies are trying to make $ and if they sell the cheapest, then quality and customer service will doubtless be compromised to some degree, the flip side is do we always get great quality and great service when we pay for the "high end lasers"? I believe we usually do, and personally would rate these companies tops for high quality and service excellence, in this order: Optotronics, Nova Lasers, Laserglow, Wicked Lasers, Viasho, OEM Laser Systems, CNI, Axixz, O-Like, and LED Shoppe. I have bought from all, and I have used customer service from all as well, much of my rating is based on the quality, but I hold service as a highly important component as well.
DX is a good supplier of batteries, chargers and some lasers, as long as waiting is not too big an issue or their inability to deliver what you want where you want it. I have little experience with Rayfoss, Focalprice or several others, so I cannot comment from personal experience, sorry.
Further some Edmund Scientific laser prices are far higher than Wicked lasers, yet I never see them labeled as scammers??? Thanks! -Glenn
Really? I think it's a bit of a matter for the individual buyer to decide really.
So, For example Is OEM Laser Systems "Scamming" when they offer a "variable power 593.5 nm 20 mW peak output Portable for ~$1900 (before shipping), although the GB I do will get you that same laser for many $100's less?
Also, some updating of your posts in several areas I believe is warranted
e.g. : Is WL really scamming?, even though they send replacements and products in general faster than LG or Optotronics, just because the offer a fancy 5mW Spyder III for ~$100? Or other higher end lasers that , if you look are about the same general costs as LG, Opto, and OEM Systems? I think it would serve the people better for you to update the BAD list, as some companies are doing much better and some are new and terrible, and I think price alone is not a clear indication of being a "Scam" btw, I have wanted to buy WL's Spyder III 5mW just for the host at ~$100!
I have had as much trouble with CNI as several folks have said they have had with WL, and yet, I still try to work with their poor communication, poor cooperation, quality slip-ups and in general slow service. They and in my experience WL, should not be labeled "Skammers"
Also, all DPSS lasers have inherent characteristics such as variability with temperature and other conditions, and those folks judging the lasers are often times quite ignorant of all the in's and out's of lasers, but really I think it serves us all better to try to see things from a more enlightened perspective. I do not claim to be a car performance expert, just because I drive and have about a million miles of driving experience, and I don't like it when today's American cars are judged on what American cars were like in the 70's. All laser companies are trying to make $ and if they sell the cheapest, then quality and customer service will doubtless be compromised to some degree, the flip side is do we always get great quality and great service when we pay for the "high end lasers"? I believe we usually do, and personally would rate these companies tops for high quality and service excellence, in this order: Optotronics, Nova Lasers, Laserglow, Wicked Lasers, Viasho, OEM Laser Systems, CNI, Axixz, O-Like, and LED Shoppe. I have bought from all, and I have used customer service from all as well, much of my rating is based on the quality, but I hold service as a highly important component as well.
DX is a good supplier of batteries, chargers and some lasers, as long as waiting is not too big an issue or their inability to deliver what you want where you want it. I have little experience with Rayfoss, Focalprice or several others, so I cannot comment from personal experience, sorry.
Further some Edmund Scientific laser prices are far higher than Wicked lasers, yet I never see them labeled as scammers??? Thanks! -Glenn
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