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bp968

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Hmm... gun laws should be draconian IMO :) Aside from that, good point!
Not sure why you think that, but I'm sorry you do. The three states closest to me all freely allow people to legally conceal firearms on themselves and crime has been going down every year.

You can't legislate stupidity and malice out of people, so your better off protecting yourself from those people.

I could say laws on lasers should be more stringent because I can order a 200mW laser for 50$ and blind people like crazy (or an IR one would be even worse), but again, you can't legislate away stupidity, all you can do is remove the rights of people who have common sense to stop the .05% of people who do idiotic things.

It's like saying DUI's are a reason to ban liqueur, cancer is a reason to ban cigs. most people won't drink and drive around like an idiot (I for one have never driven within 4+ hours of drinking even a small amount, but I rarely drink anyway) and smoking is just stupid, but who am I to tell you what to do with your own body?

Training and education are far more useful then banning things. especially things that you can use to protect yourself from violence.
 

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Those are all valid points too, except guns are weapons and aren't really in the same class with cigarettes, lasers, etc. And an idiot with a weapon is far more dangerous than without one. Also, I don't think it's safer to live in a society flooded with weapons, where everybody is allowed to have one to protect him/herself. And finally, you don't need a room of firearms to do that.
 

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Those are all valid points too, except guns are weapons and aren't really in the same class with cigarettes, lasers, etc. And an idiot with a weapon is far more dangerous than without one. Also, I don't think it's safer to live in a society flooded with weapons, where everybody is allowed to have one to protect him/herself. And finally, you don't need a room of firearms to do that.
Interesting viewpoint, especially considering your country of origin.

I find it interesting to look at a point in history like WWII for example and look at it on a micro scale. Groups like what was shown in the movie "Defiance" are a good example, or the "Warsaw Getto" is another example. Had those people been armed with current weapons of the day how much different might it have been?

Warsaw Ghetto Uprising - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Regardless we have strayed a bit off topic and I find it highly unlikely your going to change your mind and even less likely I'll change mine. I personally hope neither of us ever find ourselves in a situation that settles the argument to be honest.

Now, on to ordering near highly focused light projectors from China :)
 

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I'm from Ukraine actually ;) Part of the USSR at the time, so you are kind of right here. I don't understand what you imply however. But we are indeed off topic...
 




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