- Sep 30, 2009
LOL!! He went down pretty quick...:crackup:
If you're aiming for their "tummy" then you're doing it wrong. We train to shoot vital organs, namely, center-of-mass (chest area for heart, lungs, through to backbone, etc).... you can't guarantee your gun will stop in their tummy ...
Most criminal-types nowadays carry guns, so you won't even be close enough to spray or beat them. Pepper spray can backfire on you, too. If I'm attacking you and I see your pepper spray, I'm going to raise my hands to block it. Then I'll be trying to rub it into your face as well, incapacitating you in the process.i for one believe in nonlethal force and guns are a last resort. i carry pepper spray and a baton.
Thugs carry guns. MMA is for TV.i for one learned muay thai from my friend and i condition my shins. i'm not a masterful fighter, but my form and skill is better than a typical thug that throws haymakers.
more or less lethal places of being shot, fact is you still can't guarentee it wont go out the back and hurt someone. so if u so sure you will stay in open areas, that's fine. in a restaurant... shoot someone and it ricochets and hurts someone... tough crap i guess.Am I the only one not seeing poll choices? This is a poll, right?
Put me down for "none." I carry a gun for self-defense because I'm getting too old to fight hand-to-hand against anyone. Plus, the crimes around here aren't that close (meaning, they're gun-related anyway).
If you're aiming for their "tummy" then you're doing it wrong. We train to shoot vital organs, namely, center-of-mass (chest area for heart, lungs, through to backbone, etc).
Most criminal-types nowadays carry guns, so you won't even be close enough to spray or beat them. Pepper spray can backfire on you, too. If I'm attacking you and I see your pepper spray, I'm going to raise my hands to block it. Then I'll be trying to rub it into your face as well, incapacitating you in the process.
The way I see it is this: if someone is threatening MY life, then I'm allowed to use DEADLY FORCE. Period. No discussion. Criminals aren't going to reason with you, or give you any notice before they try to rob/kill you, or give you a choice as to where they shoot you. So why give them a choice of "non-lethal" means?
Thugs carry guns. MMA is for TV.
Please keep in mind: These are just my opinions. If I was younger, I'd love to learn Krav Maga. But at my age, there's really no point. But kudos to all of you who are trained in a martial art. It's better than nothing I guess.
That's why hollow points were invented. Less chance of the bullet going right through. And whether in a full restaurant or in the middle of nowhere, it's the training anyone goes through to be able to hit your target under stress, and not have to worry about missing and shooting an innocent bystander. We all are taught to hit center-of-mass on our targets, which reduces the chance of missing, or "ricochets" (which, in this case, I think is more of a TV phenomenon than a self-defense reality).... fact is you still can't guarentee it wont go out the back and hurt someone.... in a restaurant... shoot someone and it ricochets and hurts someone... tough crap i guess.
True that. This is why it's so important to train and practice with whatever method we're going to use.... fact is we can speculate scenarios and reactions all day long. fact is... anything is only as effective as good as you utilize it.
With proper training and keeping one's wits about them, I believe a gun is just as safe/effective as any other method. The point of self-defense is to stop the threat to one's own life as soon as possible. I'd rather do that beyond hitting/kicking distance. Although a point-blank shooting incident has happened to me once already.... what i'm saying is that a gun isnt' always 100% safe and you could end up seriously injuring innocent people around you.
Body armor isn't exactly comfortable or practical to wear every day. Nor is it a cheap item for just anyone to run out and buy. And most people aren't in the military, who are used to carrying 100 extra pounds of gear everywhere they go.... what i don't get is why don't people invest in body armor in such places. even if it's a low class that only blocks small caliber... still better than nothing.
I didn't mean to infer that I thought MMA is useless. I apologize to everyone in this thread if you took my words that way. I was just saying that when so many people carry guns nowadays (thugs), hand-to-hand MMA stuff won't make much difference when you can get shot from over 15 feet away. Granted, most thugs don't have much training or practice with their firearms, but all it takes is a lucky shot. That's why it's so important to practice and train with whatever method you choose to use.martial arts isn't 100% useless, but it isn't something that ensures victory either. every situation is different. it's good to know some martial arts plus it's a good work out. it's also good to carry a gun depending on the kind of place you live, so long as you dont have itchy fingers and don't endanger/severely injure innocent people. if you responsible and know your surrounding then power to you, and i hope you never have to kill a civilian.
They actually have a really good sense of balance and where they are on the mat. I've fought a blind kid in a tournament before and it came down to a draw and the flags ahaha. You basically just start the match with the classic lapel/sleeve grip and begin that way. They learn pretty much purely from feel. You put their body in the right position for pins and throws and chokes and armbars etc. It ends up working surprisingly well.How are blind kids supposed to learn Judo???
Hi, I believe I know your Shotokan Karate instructor named Roger George.I have been practicing Shotokan since 1989 and have taken 1st place in sparing in the Funicoshi southeast championship in 1996. I also have over a dozen first place metals from various tournaments in the Orlando area. My sensei Roger George trained under the descendents of the great Gichen Funicoshi and placed 2nd in the world martial arts championship in Europe in the late 90's, I don't recall exactly what year. I have not trained formally in several years but I do practice on my own and with the occasional contender. My former school "Shirone karate-do" was located in a converted meat locker in Black Hammock FL. where I trained for 6 years, 6days a week 2 hours per day. My favorite attack by far is the knife hand I trained day in and day out by jabbing bags of sand, pebbles, rocks and eventually solid stone with my fingertips until I could effectively pierce a mans flesh with the jab of a single finger. My sensei’s motto is "It will stop hurting once the pain goes away" ha-ha.
Hi, I believe I know your Shotokan Karate instructor named Roger George.
He is my karate instructor at my current dojo - "Garner Karate-Do". My 8yr old. son and I take Karate lessons from him in Garner, NC. My son is in 2nd year in karate training and currently hold purple belt. I remembered he said he used to have dojo called "Shirone Karate-Do" when he was in Florida. When I read about your karate experience with Sensei George in Fl. and I mentioned to sensei, he actually remembered all well about you - spear hand boy, Jimmy!. His email is - firstname.lastname@example.org if you want to contact him.