daguin Dec 19, 2009 In the "blu-ray and violet" laser board, there is a thread called 12X murder fund. http://laserpointerforums.com/f38/12x-murder-fund-complete-45355.html IgorT has the 12X. We are just now deciding at what current to test it. It and IgorT are ready. It is just a decision away from getting started.