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The DTR le-adapter V1






Pman said:
Well the "Tomorrow" came and went and it's looking like there's a chance a couple pens that I had ordered might not come as the tracking seems to have just stopped leaving Baltimore.
They were essentially like another I have anyways but I may still wait until other things arrive to put the explanations all together.
The important thing is everything that I have received has worked just fine;)
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So you got the V6 working? What was the fix?
 
The V6 works in charging mode only and the reason is that apparently it won't come on if it doesn't detect an atomizer at 9.9ohms or less because that is what the screen says "no atomizer". As said earlier "charging mode" is a way to use the power of the unit to charge an external device with a 510 to usb adapter so if you set it to that mode it is on constant.
I forgot to measure though what voltage that is but I'm assuming it's actually USB voltage so it wouldn't be enough for full output on one of DTR's adapters with the buck driver that requires 6V unless they actually need less than that. I'm going to test it tomorrow as my left flank (kidney is driving me nuts right now). I think there's another issue also where you have to go into the menu to turn the "charging" mode off and it takes maybe 10 seconds to get there so there's no instant off but I've got to test it and report back. Should have a few things arriving tomorrow but not the pen mod that I'm most interested in that supposedly can be set up to 6V. What I'm concerned about is it is not a mechanical twist the dial setting but a digital one and it's the digital ones that can have safeties built in that might not allow it to work with the DTR adapter.
I believe someone in the Vets section mentioned something about it that it could be an issue if the digital mods don't see the 9.9 ohms or less. There's got to be a way to trick the units though but that's for someone else to figure out.
What I want to see is the adapter for pen mods so the sizing is correct and they don't look odd with a big grenade on the end. The pens I have so far or are coming are really nice including the cheapos.
Again, hopefully I'll have lots to report soon. Just need the things I have coming in the mail to arrive. If I was working I would be able to really buy to figure this all out but I've already spent so much. Need others to try these adapters on different VV VW or VV/VW units and report. Can't just be me reporting here.
 
Hello all.

I am new to lasers, but have been a vape enthusiast for a long time. I am personally thrilled that this 510 module exists so I can combine both of my hobbies. I ordered a complete 2w M140 510 module from DTR yesterday and I am very excited to get it. I am hoping to be able to use it with my variant mod. It is a VV/VW mod that has the ability to go up to 250 watts or 8 volts output. I also have a hellfire mod that is a mechanical box mod that uses 2 18650 batteries to power it. Very excited.

I was wondering though, would I be able to set the voltage low on a VV mod and use it as a indoor friendly laser? Or would this not be a good thing to do to the diode? Or would I be able to power it with a single 18650 and have it still work even though it's supposed to be powered by 7-9 volts? I have 5 other mech mods that use a single 18650 and it would be awesome if I could use any of them to power the laser.

Thanks for all your help!

The unit I ordered can be found here
https://sites.google.com/site/dtrlpf/home/diodes/445-m140-didoes
It's the one on the bottom right column with the X-drive and the G-2 lens.
 
I am very interested in seeing your results for your VV/VW unit. Want to know if it recognizes the adapter to begin with and if it can adjust in both VW and VV with no strobing effect.
From what I have seen so far it's very likely you will be able to use it from just turning on up to full output but this is yet to be seen. I have no issues running any of my many mods powering my M462 (2.2W) diode that comes with the same driver you are getting in yours. The output if it's anything like mine will likely be somewhere in the 100-200mW range using it that way. You can get full output with your mods if you can make fit a couple of 16340 or 18350 if they are good quality cells. Remember that if you do this for safeties sake mark the cells in some way to know they are a matched set for safety sake. This is far more important in case you accidentally use that same mod for your vape stuff as the amp draw will be WAY higher than the amount the laser draws.
You should go back through and carefully read my findings so far. IT's been very interesting how my 2 computer controlled units have worked. Is till have another V7 on the way to test but it could be up to a couple weeks still before I can report on it.

However, just now I received the other pen mods I was waiting on and once they are charged I will test them out. I own 1 evod pen that fully charged is at 3.7V, 2 evods that you can select 3 different voltages by 5 presses, 2 eGo C-twist units that range from 3.3-4.8V, 1 Vision Spinner II adjusts 3.3-4.8V, 1 Carbon Spinner III that adjust 3.3-4.8V and 1 eGo V V2 that is a VV unit with electronic controller that is supposed to adjust from 3-6V (and the unit I'm most interested in as this would allow complete control IF it allows the adapter).
Some adapters also arrived that can act as the top cap for the pens that would originally show the 510 adapter sticking out (not attractive).
I don't know if I can post all of this stuff tonight or not as I just feel lousy. Way too much snow in the last couple weeks. We just got almost another 1.5' of snow and with my arm being messed up I'm killing myself moving it around.

Well, they all fully charged and all worked including the 3V-6V controller unit which will allow any output from 0-full or at least what I believe is full as I haven't measured the output to be sure:) There's still a 10 second limit on the unit but it has no issues running. I'll take some pics tomorrow and show it along with the other pens so you can see what the dress adapters are for. The bigger pens look OK with the regular adapter but they all would look better with a thinner laser adapter. It's not like the adapters couldn't just be machined down (I have no way of doing this myself though). Some of the vape pen mods look really hot and it's not that easy to find great pen hosts anymore.
 
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I've got an oclaro 638 250mW in this adapter on the way. I will test it out on my provari and itaste mvp 2.0, as well as the mechs. I have doubts that the provari will work, but we'll see.
 
I will post my findings with the variant when I get the module in. I am worried now that it is not going to recognize it as an atty and won't fire. The mod cost me $750 and I really hope that it works for this laser module. I bought the 2w specifically because this VV will crank up to 8v and I was hoping to be able to turn it up for a powerful burning laser and also be able to turn the voltage down low and have a nice showy indoor laser in the same unit. I guess I won't sweat it too much until I get the unit in. If nothing else, I have another box mod that powers off dual 18650s that will make it a burning laser, and 5 other pen style mods that can use a single 18650 or dual 18340s. Either way, I am extremely excited and will post my findings.
 
I wouldn't over worry. This is all just in the testing phase. Again, every single unit has worked fine but some have limitations. I have a hunch that if the unit can charge something with the 510 to usb adapter it checks to see if there's something there at 9.9 ohms or less. Like I said, I need my other Vamo V7 to test this but it still hasn't even hit the states yet. That unit is supposed to have the ability to charge also so we'll just have to wait and see.
In the meantime this is very very new stuff and we need as much data as we can get to figure it all out. If anyone knows of any units out there that can vary their voltage up to at least 6V and are strictly mechanical I would like to know as the digital ones are the issue.
I didn't realize until I read through my links above how VV and VW is very different. VV only units are simple in that as the voltage changes, the output will vary from different atomizers while the VW unit allows you to just set the Wattage to what you want and regardless of what the atomizers resistance is you will get the same power and essentially burn to your e-juice. It makes sense why VW units are the new thing.
I also think that what is important to remember here with the Vamo Fire that wouldn't allow me to apply power to the laser is that it's the only unit I have that CAN be constant on without holding a button down and it's actually a safer unit in some ways because you have to go into its menu to actually turn the function on. Remember that these lasers have some serious dangerous output and I wouldn't want mine coming on by accident.
I'm wondering what is the rules regarding Vape units and airplanes? Don't know anything about the rules for these things. See a story on whether they are safe to use here and there but the focus has all turned to drones now. Had no idea drones could go up over 8000 feet (heard about airplane reports on the nightly news last night). Oops, don't want to derail the real topic here;)
I'm just glad that there will be some input from other members coming in.

Here's the deal with the pen units I have. As stated before they will all fire the M462nm adapter up and obviously how much power they output is directly related to their voltage capabilities and of course how good their batteries actually are. Pen units usually don't have removable batteries in them and my units are rated from 650mAh up to 1650mAh IF they are not lying. Obviously run times are greatly affected by this. Also, they all take at least a couple hours to fully charge back up from 30% (about where they will indicate it's time to recharge) and regardless of which unit I have they all specify charging at 420mAh max so it can take 5 hours for the 1650mAh to fully recharge according to it's manual. For actual vaping this doesn't seem to be that big a deal as you can get a lot of pulls in a day from the units and most people have more than one anyways.
I've tested them all for output and the one I have that can't change it's output fully charged hits 3.7V. 2 others that require 5 button pushes to change between 3 volltage levels can go to 4.2V and the others with the variable selectors on the bottoms go up to about 4.9V. The most interesting unit with the display allows you to digitally select from 3V-6V with .1V adjustments actually fully charges to 5.9V. These readings were all taken with a Fluke 87V which is very accurate and I'm obviously rounding to tenths.
DTR is going to get back to me on what the drivers he uses actually require for max output. On his site he lists for instance "Use with 6-9V or two 3.7V Li-Ions" for the x-drive so I asked him what voltage you actually need to hit for full output as in the case of mods it does matter how close they are actually to outputting 6V.
I personally have no idea if there's any issue running an x-drive at say 3.2V or not and I'll defer that to someone who really knows how they work but my guess is there's no issue or why would have it even have been suggested in the first place back in the Vets section that many of you won't have access to yet. It's not up to me what gets posted here that was posted in that section and I have no intentions of doing so as it would be wrong and I have no right to do it. That's up to the individual who posted there.
I'm going to take some pics of all the pens now so others can see what they look like before and after an adapter is on and can also see some nice top pieces/adapters I found on Ebay to make up for the threads showing on them when the DTR adapter is added. They look really weird without the adapter hiding the connection. Sorry a few of the pics are a bit blurry.




Series of pics showing a small adapter that you can buy to make up the space on a mech mod that won't allow some atomizers to screw into them.
















Adapters that I've mentioned that make up for that ugly space on most pen units.










This unit (gold carbon fiber) came with a gold adapter and you can see the gold atomizer that also came with it in a pic a couple down.














This is the unit that can be set to almost 6V






Anyone needing links to where these came from let me know and I'll post them.
 
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Thanks Jander. The bigger pens actually look pretty decent with the adapter but the smaller ones really start to look quite unbalanced. If it wasn't for those dress peices that cover the 510 ends you can see that they would look really crappy.
I went over to one of the large smokes shops about 6 miles from me and I was the only person there so I talked with the clerk for awhile and tried the adapter on his box box mod that was VV/VW and it did the same thing as the V6 Wood saying that there was no atomizer present. His also had a charging function so of course that worked for constant on.
I go out for therapy again on Thursday and will stop in and if it's just him again maybe he will let me try some different units he has with it if they are already out of their boxes. He said the same thing that I already figured. The VV only units are much harder to come by now that everything is going VW. Don't think he had any units that were just VV that went to at least 6V. Like I said, I need to go back again and investigate more. I've spent a stupid # of hours on Ebay looking around as they don't just pop up. There was a black version of the 3-6V VV silver eGo pen but I think they have all sold at least US ones. Have to take a look at Fasttech and see what they show. From my experience they are the fastest shipper from China. It's been 20 days and still no sign of my V7 Banggood order. Would have had it from fasttech already although I'm almost 100% sure I know what the result of testing on it will be now.
 
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Great looking pens you've got there Pete! :beer:

I received a nice package in the mail yesterday, my NDB7675 462nm diode module and adapter arrived, it was definitely worth the wait! Thanks DTR.
Just now put it together, holy sh!t, what a beautiful color. It's visible in daylight, and it burns anything instantly on contact! It was hard to focus without starting everything on fire; I will check the output when I get home tonight.

I'll also try and get some beam shots tonight, but till then, here's a couple of photos that I have taken. :)


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We're you able to fit 2 18350 in that mod? Glad you finally got it. Now compare it to a normal blue and you will instantly see the difference;). Great that you've joined the real blue club:)
Now if you get more mods you can stick that on any of them. Telescoping mods make a lot of sense trying to fit 2 batteries.

I forgto to mention something important about the units that will only work when putting them in charge mode also output 5V like any nomad USB port so you won't get full output if your laser module needs the 6V. DTR was going to get back to me on what voltage you more accurately need as its probably less than 6V.
I'm reporting all this so we all understand what we are dealing with. Even with some of these limitations it's still awesome what you can buy. Remember you can make your own smoke and then beam it with the same unit.
Found another pen type unit with electronics that can be set up to 6V and takes replaceable 14500 batteries instead of one that doesn't have a replaceable battery. I expect it to work just fine other than having the expected 10 second limit.

Anyways, looking forward to seeing some blue madness in your mod.
 
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I just realized you only have a 58mW 405nm BTG... Don't like 405nm? Got to go to sleeps so hopefully in the morning I'll get to see some beam shots. So looking forward to others posting their stuff.
 
Thanks LB!

Pman, this mod is like those telescopic ones, it fits either one 18350, two 18350, or one 18650 batteries; you jut unscrew all the pieces, and add or subtract pieces to fit a particular battery. IIRC, there are 6 or 7 pieces to this mod.

Here are a couple of blurry pics showing a comparison between my R.A. Pierce 1.4W 445nm chrome pen, and the new 462nm Maraxus mod at 2.3W.
Even though the pics stink, you can get an idea of the color difference between the 445nm, and the 462nm+ wavelengths.

I will update these with better shots ASAP. :yabbem:

Edit: I'm working on that 405nm problem as we speak, hopefully soon though. :D

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