Review and test of Jetlaser 150 mW 532nm laser

[JETLASERS]

Hi Hakzaw1, it will be good to take more pics on the laser focusing head and the tailcap? So that more friends here can see it clearly and they don't have to buy every laser to compare the difference. Thanks.:can:

My workmate working at Jetlasers shipped out two PL-C green lasers for review earlier this year, one is for Dustin(Don't Laze Me Bro), the other is for WretchedMerc.

Since the newer version is only available until June this year, so what they received are the previous version and you can see the differences from the pics provided by their reviews as follows:

150mW Green Laser PL-C Jetlasers
200mW Green Laser PL-C Jetlasers

Best regards,

 

[DJNY]

Can´t see them yet

I will do some outdoors photos tonite and will post then.

Nice statement Gray :beer:

Dear Bootleg2go, hi thanks for your comment and special thanks to your friend's looking-for work but it's really not true. We wonder how much you know Chinese laser companies and us. We used to only advertise only on B2B sites before we began to build our own sites. We have two sister companies in China and two labs(cleaning rooms). We didnot give it much care when our resellers registered their own companies and branded the portable products in their own ways coz we mainly make profit upon the laser landmarking systems, not the portables until this year. BTW, though we're not pro about online marketing, but don't you think the domain name or brand "jetlasers" is better name for being known in the English market? It's okay that we're unknown by your Chinese friend but guess we might still live in the heart of darkness if we brand us with either mandarin name or Chinese Phonetics(not photonics), hahah..

 

[JETLASERS]

Can´t see them yet :whistle

That's because he is still outdoors now. :shhh:

Nice statement Gray :beer:

Thanks, man！What's the time now in your place?!:beer:
I did ask one of my workmen to take some detailed photos, so that people will at least not be confused about those twins portable lasers every time whichever they would like to purchase. But the fact is that they're not even second cousins, let alone twins. :gh:

 

[goninanbl00d]

Just to add more fuel onto the fire about the different host designs-

The Rayfoss green comes from the same factory as the SKY greens. They're the ones that don't make the quality control standards. They still have the SKY protection features (such as heat guard), except they haven't met SKY's stringent requirements. That's why they've been cut. That's not to say that they're bad though.

These lasers are distinguishable from their clear-cut body shape and 'thicker' knurling on the focusing adapter.

Now then there's the JETLASERS take on the host. Apparantly, these are made by a Chinese company called Scitower, which are second to Viasho and third to CNI when it comes to handhelds.

These handhelds have a more rounded 'nose' (focusing and aperture knob). Compare this:

(Scitower style)

and

to this:

Rayfoss RF532-200-FMK

You can see how on the Scitower the knurling is finer, and the focusing tip has a bevelled appearence.

I hope that confuses you all just that bit more

EDIT: Here is a reply from a JETLASERS rep a few years back about the same issue.

http://laserpointerforums.com/f45/n...inter-rf532-350mw-fgb-50479-3.html#post697640

So yes, it all makes sense now. And SKY themselves have said that the Rayfoss ones are the lasers that haven't passed their QC.

EDIT 2: Oh, wait, it's the same Gray that's here right now that replied to that email.

EDIT 3: Here's the reply from SKY on the same issue. http://laserpointerforums.com/f41/skylasers-vs-rayfoss-52630.html

EDIT 4: It's spelt "disable" not "unable". Just pointing the typo on the laser itself out.


Yeah, confusing, isn't it?

So I am correct about all of it. Will someone hand the noob a piece of candy? :spew:

 

[millirad]

^ Interesting comparison.

Great review Hakzaw1!

@Gray - I can do a review for the 15 Watt dazzler. Shipping is a little high though. ;-)

 

[moneyLeu]

Good explanation, Goninanbl00d. :gj:You surely know a lot more about these companies than others. I seem to have discussed something like this long before.

Actually, Scitower is more renown than Viacho in nearly every product field and is a much more vesatitle laser manufacturer who mainly works with the government, universities and the military. DPSS lab lasers are their strong point. Mr. Li, the manager of Scitower was the core optical engineer in Fengyuan company in Zhejiang province ten years ago when Cni was just second. After Fengyuan company was sold(The Photop( Photop Technologies, Inc.) was also sold a few times), the manager Mr Li founded Scitower which rose very quickly since 2003 0r 2004 because most of the engineers working there were from the Northwest University and Xi"an Institute of Optics and Precision Mechanics (XIOPM), one of the biggest research organizations in Northwest China of Chinese Academy of Sciences. The same is also true for Cni, who depends on all the technical support from Changchun Institute of Optics and Fine Mechanics. It seems that CNI has done a far greater job in media exposure.

I had a few experiences with Scitower before I knew about jetlasers. When I worked for Taiwan company last year, I contacted them for laser show systems installing on the nightclubs and they provided the project program, including the main engineers' list, some of whom were from jieteguangdian(the jetlasers), and later i knew most engineers in Scitower were excellent optical engineers while jiete has a few professional mechanical engineers and installation personnel. I believe they are just partners. I bought the 1w 808nm from scitower and it's very similar to the called 2009 version at jetlasers, while the 300mw red laser PL-C proves this well. But I was kinda confused when I only saw other two updated version of PL-C at jetlaser website.

Now I think they're nearly sister companies. As early as the March this year, the staff working at Scitower has already told members in flashlight forum (shoudian.com) that they would release titanium lasers and portable rgb lasers soon(they are TOO SLOW..portable RGB are still not arrived yet!). I called to inquire about the portable RGB and the ti lasers; they told me the drawings were still revised by the mechanical engineers in jieteguangdian(jetlasers), while the features of Mono-Chip operation would be added in the portable RGB or even full color lasers. It's said that the manager(or the founder) of jetlasers, Mr. john Wong, is an excellent mechanical engineers who helped Scitower complete many governmental projects undertaken by Scitower.

I guess they're just partners. According to my experiences with Chinese laser companies before i bought my laser pointers, it was often that a few small companies spoke endless words against their competitors. No good. Scitower was one of the exceptions and I was very impressed with their customer support, esp. the Ms Wan. She talked(only in Chinese) like an engineer herself! I prefer cni and scitower. Less worries dealing with them.

Believe me, a lot of so-called laser manufacturers don't have any labs or good facilities. It's not that bad if money is the only impetus but they are incapable of QC-ing the cheap lasers they made. I believe most members in this forum can make a better laser maker than them if you live in China. No doubt their distributors live restlessly upon every order.

I don't know if jetlasers has many top optical engineers but they at least design good lasers and even provide freebies for review. This is very recommendable. Hope Gray could get more review lasers for us, especially the new titanium lasers. I bet few people would rush to Scitower if you provide titanim lasers at good price.:wave:

 

[DJNY]

I don't know if jetlasers has many top optical engineers but they at least design good lasers and even provide freebies for review. This is very recommendable. Hope Gray could get more review lasers for us, especially the new titanium lasers. I bet few people would rush to Scitower if you provide titanim lasers at good price.:wave:

My Ti PL-B is coming during next weeks! It isn´t a freebie, but I´m going to get a discount for doing the review work later on. I totally understand that Gray can´t send out free lasers anymore!

 

[moneyLeu]

So yes, it all makes sense now. And SKY themselves have said that the Rayfoss ones are the lasers that haven't passed their QC.

"Our quality standards for these two departments are very different.
As with most factories, when a product is manufactured, it is tested and then divided into two categories. The average and lower quality products are reserved for sales in Asia. All higher quality products are channeled to us, the outside sales team."

EDIT 3: Here's the reply from SKY on the same issue. http://laserpointerforums.com/f41/skylasers-vs-rayfoss-52630.html

Hi, Goninanbl00d. You deserve a pc of candy, anyway.
Thanks for guiding me to older posts but i was rly speechless about the emailed explanation.

Why dont skylaser discard the lower quality or work over/improve on them to make them more qualified? Why do they just reserve them for Asia customers? Do Asian laser buyers NOT deserve a better laser? :worthy:I'm not being sensitive but really amused by this principle.

I hope all self-appointed laser manufacturers could at least do their utmost to guarantee every laser they ship out, to either the reseller or end customer, is reflecting their best efforts, rather than the "i dont care'-style abandonment. I hate it.

Thank you very much. i have a clearer mind now.

 

[hakzaw1]

boys.. i received the same laser rom rayfoss.... tested stable 310/320mw!!! filtered!
the host is very nice... but.. by pics seems that your laser is not focusable... mine yes.(same skylasers)

but i still don't have a 18650 batt to use it and test it. when it arrive... i will write a NICE review... and in october about... i will test the unit with HIML9.. i will go on holidays near where he lives....

I was mistaken when I posted that itwas NOT focusable- it and all models like this one from JetLasers ARE focusable. Sorry for any confusion.

 

[hakzaw1]

Here is the pdf for the manual on this green laser

about the night shots..................

I got up before first light today

first my camera battery ran out

then it took panoramic photos somehow

then the mosquitos attacked me


then the sun came up--I will try again tonite. sorry-new camera

SECOND TRY

Still got many mosq. bites --again-- the blue is the new aiXiz 445 labby- the red is barely visable 100,W geareb and the dim green is the Dino 50(actual 27mWs) and the bright green is of course the JETLASERS 150mW PL-C at 220 mWs actual.

 

[hakzaw1]

hakzaw1

How is the machining & Finishing on the Host? On Par with CNI and better the O-Like?

I do have a CNI to compare with but none from O-LIKE or Rayfoss.

The finish on the JetL is very good , the threads are well done- smooth and the laser is tight-- no rattling sound when shaken whatsoever.

The CNI feels much cheaper and lighter. It does not use rechargeable 18650s having 'C' cells instead and they rattle a bit. I think the finish on the CNI would get scratched more easily.

 

[Coherent Light]

Wow. Thanks for the info. JetLaser will most likely be where My next Green is coming from after what You just wrote.:thanks:

 

[hakzaw1]

Someone mentioned the 'typo' in the words used on this laser above and next to the circular key. And while the 'unable' is a word -I guess they thought the word 'disable' would have been a better choice to go with 'enable'---- the word that the key 'points' to when the laser is turn-on-able(not a word afaik).

So I will note this before another does it.
On the model that I have....

Just above the red off/on button and the pretty blue LED appears this: 'runing'...which IS a typo as it should be 'running' or maybe 'on'. This is hardly a thing worth mentioning and makes this laser no less desireable to me.


the moth flew onto my face and I had to pull it from me.

Frenched by a fricken' moth-!!!

-not too bad a kisser actually....lol

. first buyer to name it gets goggles free.... I ,,,Oh ... I see how it is!!-+++ What the *uck is hak talking about-(hints)

its name is not Fred btw

 

[Coherent Light]

Amorpha juglandis


Owl Moth

Walnut Sphinx or is it called just Sphinx

Carpet moth

Looks a bit like a Luna

I O moth

It's in the Buck moth family

Peacock Moth!

 

[hakzaw1]

Common Name please

 

[hakzaw1]

While that may not be a wrong answer I know this one by two other common names --use the hints... you need to look at the other moth photo in the other Jetlaser thread--GB
AND USE THE HINTS


EDIT--

iT IS NOT afaik a 'Walnut Sphinx or is it called just Sphinx' ..but many with mimicry owl eyes are called 'owl moths'


You are close Coh--try again .....