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So as many people have seen, FlaminPyro seems to have a major problem with me, he claims that I have lied to him and in fact sold him a laser that was not orange like I claimed it was. Here's my side of the story, complete with messages between us.
The sale page for the laser is listed here with the laser being advertised as
Now from another thread, he writes this,
I never claimed it's "orange in my eyes", I stated the wavelength, and the factual color for the wavelength, look up in any scientific source and you fill find that 612nm is classified as orange, that's not my definition.
Later, he says this:
A few posts later, I tell him this,
Seems pretty reasonable to me, I don't see anything wrong with that request, however, he never even replies to the thread or to my request to show him that it was correct or make the deal right.
Later on in totally different threads, he starts hounding me about the same HeNe,
Now, I don't see any reason to start listening to what he has to say, he has been rude to me and in my opinion, a horrible buyer throughout the whole process. My recommendation is to avoid him at all costs.
And again, if you don't have something to say about this specific problem, please keep it to another thread...
The sale page for the laser is listed here with the laser being advertised as
I would assume most people would interpret that as being a 612nm Heluim Neon Laser being sold. I sent an message to FlaminPyro and recieved this back (I cut out some small parts containing payment information)Melles Griot 612nm Helium Neon Laser with power supply 2mW, $100 w/o Power supply $150 w/ Power Supply
Here was my replyI would like to know a couple things about the laser, do you have any idea how many hours are on it to the closest say 100hrs ? , is it 120 volt AC or 12 volt DC input, and it is an orange/orange red color right ? beam shot not nessary they never look right as far as color goes. and you would garrentee it not be DOA ? (covered in shipping insurance I guess)
Now at this point, I assumed the buyer knew he was buying a 612nm HeNe laser from me based on the sale thread, the title of the messages, and my statements.The laser was removed from a piece of equipment that was only slightly used so I would say that it has 1000 hours or less on it. It has a 18-24V input for power. The color is a nice orange color.
I can assure that the laser will not be DOA
Now from another thread, he writes this,
He was supposed to sell me an ORANGE laser and he sent me a RED one insted he states it's orange in his eyes but I have had several red HeNe's in my life time and it looks just like the rest RED. I spec asked him befor the sale if it was a orange/orange red and his answer was ORANGE. now I'm looking at a very expensive RED HeNe.
I never claimed it's "orange in my eyes", I stated the wavelength, and the factual color for the wavelength, look up in any scientific source and you fill find that 612nm is classified as orange, that's not my definition.
Later, he says this:
Thats it Thats it Tomarrow I'm going to put this frickin RED HeNe laser on a one pound charge and blow the hell out of it. when it comes back down to earth I'm gona pick it up put it in a box and send it back to you BEN ..
A few posts later, I tell him this,
I'll tell you what pyro, why don't you send the laser back to me, I will test it with the spectrometer and take pictures of everything for you. If it turns out to not be 611nm, I will refund your money, the entire $160 of it and give you a publicly apologize to you. If it turns out to be 611nm, I will ship it back to you and you can apologize to me.
Does that sound fair? No one else here on the forum has a spectrometer and can test it the way I can. Plus, if you were to ship it to someone else, it would kill any chance of a paypal dispute.
Seems pretty reasonable to me, I don't see anything wrong with that request, however, he never even replies to the thread or to my request to show him that it was correct or make the deal right.
Later on in totally different threads, he starts hounding me about the same HeNe,
if a person isnt happy with the outcome of a sale what else can he do but talk about it to others if the other party involved won't answer PM's or act responsible. I could have opened a paypal dispute guess I should have, o well to late for me. I could have negtive rep'ed you like you did me for talking about our deal, and befor you call it lieing you would be saying 26 other people are lieing that have also seen the laser you sold me, but I have more class than that, you have insulted me for the last time on this matter so heres one for you insult me here again then you will get neg reped by me again.
Now, I don't see any reason to start listening to what he has to say, he has been rude to me and in my opinion, a horrible buyer throughout the whole process. My recommendation is to avoid him at all costs.
And again, if you don't have something to say about this specific problem, please keep it to another thread...