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Every four years, the American Society of Civil Engineers’ Report Card for America’s Infrastructure depicts the condition and performance of American infrastructure in the familiar form of a school report card. USA infrastructure does need a lot of work as the current administration has been saying/promoting and promising to fix.

Where did you get that chart showing 14th and the other one's --according to whom--what bias is it based upon?


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RedCowboy said:
It's not the gun, or the box truck, or the fertilizer bomb, it's the bad people who kill.
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Indeed, we have far fewer guns in europe but still have massacres caused by individuals running into crowds using trucks and such methods.

The attacks in europe have mostly be islam extremists ones, but it still proves it's very well possible to kill dozens of people using fairly crude means.

Fortunalely most of these people are idiots and, however tragic, only manage to kill a few dozen people. I'm affraid of the day a smart one emerges and uses a biological, chemical or perhaps even nuclear device wiping out people by the millions.
 
Hap said:
That list with America in 14th place is a list of the latest "World Happiness Report" that was conducted in 2017. The last one was in 2012, where America ranked in IIRC 13th place.

Check it out!

Overview ? World Happiness Report

-Alex
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OK that is what I thought it was something like that.. The UN? lol Yhe World Happiness Report, which has been released annually since 2012. published in support of the International Day of Happiness.
That UN report, like everything the UN does, has little is any real meaning. Happiness being an entirely subject and self determined thing.
Happy or unhappy that is a persons doing 99.9% of the time and not the Country 100% of the time, to be real about it. People find ways to be happy under any circumstances.
Take it with a grain of salt. There isn't any way I can imagine any chance of being "happier" in any of the first 13 Countries and suspect that is the case for most USA people---none of it really adds up to anything real.
Happiness isn't something you can measure with empirical data. Also many countries around the world have different cultural ideals of happiness.

Danes and Icelanders ranked fourth and first in the world in use of antidepressants in an OECD survey LOL

It's interesting how the happiness list fails to match other signs of happiness/unhappiness, for example suicide. Switzerland tops the list in happiness, but it's also relatively high on suicides per capita (44th). Finland is 6th on happiness, and 21st on suicides. If blowing your brains out or jumping from the top of a high building is the ultimate expression of unhappiness and despair, then why are so many European countries at the top on happiness as well as suicides?

"These surveys depend on subjective self-reporting, not to mention cultural differences. No matter how carefully parsed the data may be, a survey based on unreliable answers isn’t worth a lot. You might as well run a survey based on asking the dudes of the world, “Who’s best in bed?”

You can read more about it here, and many other places: That world happiness survey is complete crap | New York Post
 
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Encap said:
Take it with a grain of salt. There isn't any way I can imagine any chance of being "happier" in any of the first 13 Countries and suspect that is the case for most USA people---none of it really adds up to anything real.
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Ask most people how happy they are in Norway, then ask people in the US how happy they are with the way the country is being run.

The results may surprise you...

-Alex
 
Hap said:
Ask most people how happy they are in Norway, then ask people in the US how happy they are with the way the country is being run.

The results may surprise you...

-Alex
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Apples and oranges totally different cultures and standards---happy is just an emotional puddle--almost completely meaningless to everyone but the person saying yea or nay. I understand what you are saying but different people and different cultures have different opinions and different definitions of happiness as well. That happiness report is only based on a survey of 1000 people in each Country.
Happy is up to the individual to create for him or herself, not up to any Country or political system.

Happy about how Country is being run--give me a break--asking people that can't even run their own existence/lives if the are happy with how a Country is being run, which is what the media does, is the inmates taking over the asylum.

Happiness is a vague term that means different things to different people; as a consequence, even though everyone knows
what it means in various situations, there is no definition that captures all those aspects for every person.
Happiness is just the name we put on thinking and feeling positively about one’s life. What determines that is a varied as there are people.

The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence... until you have to live there. Propaganda is just that, propaganda, the UN is no exception.

In the end, happiness is an inherently qualitative concept that cannot be translated into quantitative terms with any reliable degree of precision or comparability between people.
 
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The United States may be a world power, but we suck in health care and education, far behind many countries. We are not what we pretend to be, have not been for a long time.
 
I just came across this photo on imgur, it's a picture of city hall in Tel Aviv Israel.
Some of the comments stated that they do this when tragedies occur all over the world.

I thought it was pretty cool! :yh:

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One thing I learned this morning is that
the murderer was shooting from high over
the crowd from a hotel room on the 32nd
floor with over 10 guns and 2 mounted on
tripods. Seems he shot himself...

@Alex
In case a happiness report is being conducted....
I'm happy all the time.....:D
I could be living under a bridge in a cardboard box.. ;)
Happiness is all relative.


Jerry
 
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BowtieGuy said:
I just came across this photo on imgur, it's a picture of city hall in Tel Aviv Israel.
Some of the comments stated that they do this when tragedies occur all over the world.
I thought it was pretty cool! :yh:
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That is pretty cool---friendly, nice idea
 
Alaskan said:
The United States may be a world power, but we suck in health care and education, far behind many countries. We are not what we pretend to be, have not been for a long time.
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That might be true, but it doesnt really explain mass shootings by individuals like that.

Let's consider the case of Anders Breivik, in norway, a country which was a pretty good educaton system, good social security, affordable healthcare and all. He still proceeded to gun down 69 kids back in 2011.

He was a far right activist and attacked a socialist youth camp so shooting people he considered enemies rather than random people on the street, but the death toll was still considerable.

So i'd say no, even having very good education, healthcare and social security does not prevent the occassional lunitic going on a killing spree - sadly.
 
Benm said:
That might be true, but it doesnt really explain mass shootings by individuals like that.

Let's consider the case of Anders Breivik, in norway, a country which was a pretty good educaton system, good social security, affordable healthcare and all. He still proceeded to gun down 69 kids back in 2011.

He was a far right activist and attacked a socialist youth camp so shooting people he considered enemies rather than random people on the street, but the death toll was still considerable.

So i'd say no, even having very good education, healthcare and social security does not prevent the occassional lunitic going on a killing spree - sadly.
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Agreed - nothing can ever stop 100% of these type of lone wolf attacks, there will always be someone who falls through the cracks, but I think health care and education are a much better way of trying to reduce these attacks than weapons bans or anything like that. Would certainly help in either the case of a mentally disturbed person (would have better access to free treatment to help them get better) or a radicalized individual (someone with better education, and better opportunities is less likely to fall into extremism on any side of the spectrum).
 
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Benm said:
That might be true, but it doesnt really explain mass shootings by individuals like that.

Let's consider the case of Anders Breivik, in norway, a country which was a pretty good educaton system, good social security, affordable healthcare and all. He still proceeded to gun down 69 kids back in 2011.

He was a far right activist and attacked a socialist youth camp so shooting people he considered enemies rather than random people on the street, but the death toll was still considerable.

So i'd say no, even having very good education, healthcare and social security does not prevent the occassional lunitic going on a killing spree - sadly.
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Yes, I agree Ben... there are other reasons for this kind of behaviour.
Some people just snap, other contemplate how to inflict maximum damage
and make a name for themselves "go out in a blaze of glory".


Breivik also used a car bomb to blow the side off a government building in downtown Oslo and then gun down kids at a camp.
 
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