Shooting in Las Vegas

[Ears and Eggs]

I suspect LPF will be better than to have people come and blame the guns. It's the exact same deal with idiots lasing planes.

Agreed. Banning specific implements is not the solution. If guns were banned (if it could even be done), someone could easily kill many with some kind of IED. If that was somehow made impossible then someone with evil at heart could cause just as much carnage just by ramming a car/truck through a crowd.



Banning specific items is just a knee jerk reaction that won't solve the problem in the long run. The real problem is that there is so much anger, hate, and discontent coming from many directions these days and there is no easy solution to that.

 

[CurtisOliver]

Yep, guns don’t kill people. People do. Simple as. Agreed with above statements.

 

[lasersbee]

Saw that on the news this morning... heard the
automatic gunfire in the background. They stated
that the Coward was stopping to reload between
long bursts.
Why was there no-one with a weapon in the vicinity
to immediately respond to the attack ?

I feel for the innocent victims and their families...

At least the Bastard is dead........


Jerry

 

[Lifetime17]

Yeah but that wont stop people like this. I am pretty sure this shooter probably didn't acquire his gun legally. From what I heard they said he either had a Large drum magazine or a belt fed ammo belt, both of which are illegal for civilians to own. If it was neither then he was reloading magazine clips very fast, which would imply a person with extensive gun knowledge, possibly ex military or law enforcement. I am interested to hear what his background was.

Gun control laws are almost pointless. Criminals will always find ways to get them.

Still, gonna be a shit show on the subject I am sure.

Prayers for the famlies of the victems :can:

Hi
Sorry but yes you can own drums and belt fed rms if you live in a class 3 State. The BATF monitors all transactions and allows the purchase of these items. Any destructive devise like an SBR, Grenade launchers, belt fed , drums . Can be had if the indevidual goes through the paper work . Like I said a 200.0 tax stamp plus other $$ and pass a NICS instant back ground check. Same goes for suppressors in class 3 states . So I hope this clears things up for you. Drums and such are and can be purchased at gun shows in states that have no laws against them.

Rich

 

[RedCowboy]

The shooter Steven Paddock owned 2 aircraft, had worked for Lockheed Martin, he had no criminal record.....what made him plan this, did he lose his life savings in the casino and want to hurt the Las Vegas tourism industry?
There must be some reason, not a valid reason mind you, but some reason for him to obviously plan this.

 

[CurtisOliver]

Have absolutely no idea. What ever the reason, it doesn't change the fact of what he has done.

 

[diachi]

The world is going mental. What a tragedy.

The shooter Steven Paddock owned 2 aircraft, had worked for Lockheed Martin, he had no criminal record.....what made him plan this, did he lose his life savings in the casino and want to hurt the Las Vegas tourism industry?
There must be some reason, not a valid reason mind you, but some reason for him to obviously plan this.

CIA PSYOP.

Of course I'm only half serious...

 

[Alaskan]

They are capable of it, I'm serious about that.

 

[RedCowboy]

Have absolutely no idea. What ever the reason, it doesn't change the fact of what he has done.

I agree 100% CurtisOliver, but I am looking for some reason that he could go this crazy and I just read that he had been calling himself a professional gambler and moved an hour away from Vegas 1 year ago.....I bet he lost a fortune over time, became an alcoholic and ......I still can't believe, well I don't want to believe it, but I bet he lost a his retirement savings and did this horrible thing in drunken anger.

IT IS NO EXCUSE, I'm just searching for some understanding of how he snapped because it really bothers me and I want to understand, even though it does not excuse it what so ever.

A lot of people go broke gambling, this guy happened to be a piece of human garbage as well, or maybe his brain got hacked, he was a gambling washout and would be the type of target for a PSYOP, more susceptible, nothing left to lose and ready to die, I don't know.

I don't want to see gambling addicts labeled insane, I'm just shocked to hell and back and searching for a shred of something.

 

[CurtisOliver]

I suppose his motives will become clearer soon. I feel sorry for the devastation and heartbreak he has caused.

 

[RedCowboy]

I feel a lot of empathy for those who lost loved ones and I am very upset of what he did, it was a selfish evil act of cowardice and I understand it's very soon to speculate, it just doesn't make sense and I keep thinking about why, fact is there's no reason that makes sense.

 

[CurtisOliver]

Same, and you're right on that one. Nothing will really make sense to us why someone can go and massacre a huge group of innocent individuals.
Also if your suspicion is correct on the gambling side of things, then why target a music event instead of a casino? Unless it was simply for the crowded venue? :thinking:

 

[Alaskan]

The way I see it, if you are going to break and go kill a lot of people, why go after innocent harmless individuals? There are probably a few bad folk out there to go after, if you are going to do that, and these guys go after the good people instead... I guess if you are crazy, you don't have to explain why you did something. My wife had tears on Skype today talking about what happened, this SOB, good thing he is dead.

 

[CurtisOliver]

Totally agree. It's not on targeting innocents. :tsk:
That's what gets me so annoyed at terrorists, but that's a whole another topic which I won't discuss here.
I wish the family and friends of the victims peace and support from me here in the UK. :can:

 

[CynicalBrad]

There are no words to describe how I and many others feel about this... My condolences to the family and friends of those taken.

 

[NightExplorer96]

I don't care what anyone says, America is still #1 in the world. Oh whoops....

I keep telling everyone that your country is falling apart, but atlast, nobody seems to listen. Oh well..

-Alex