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Reputation System Discussion and Poll

What should be done with the reputation system?

  • Revert to old system

    Votes: 20 45.5%

  • Keep the new system

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Tweak the system (comprise between the two extremes)

    Votes: 14 31.8%

  • Remove the system

    Votes: 11 25.0%

  • Not really bothered, there are more important things in life.

    Votes: 8 18.2%
  • Total voters
    44
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Re: Poll: Spreading the love .... NOT!!!!!

Would it be rude for me to point out you never answered his question?
 





Re: Poll: Spreading the love .... NOT!!!!!

If you don't mind I am curious now, just how would you have worded his contribution to the thread.

Would you have started with Please excuse me, I don't want to offend, but although I respect your apparent vast knowledge you may be doing this the hard way.

Something like that?

Forgive my curiosity, but you being from Sweden I may learn something here, about our cultural differences maybe ??
 
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He didn't need to correct my spelling, it was obvious what I meant. Add a FIY at the end for good measure. I explain why I choose to use resistors and not follow crappy Chinese standard - he reply with a self-fulfilling prophecy that it works when it works, undermining what I just told. Bare LEDs was not accurate enough term for him, I guess only the die counts, which is silly in this context, and is a guaranteed hazard if it would be made with any red or yellow LEDs. I see that as also an attempt to undermine my advice. Why I don't know.
 
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Adding FYI could be saying " For your information " as to say it's for your benefit so you don't appear ignorant in the future.

Saying FYI you dumbass!!! --would mean what you thought. Saying Just fyi :) would have softened it. As it was you assumed too much.

The technical aspects could be debated, and it is common for the Chinese to rely on production tolerances of internal resistance, I see it in these multi led camp lights.

I think if they were off they would burn up right away, or you would see some dim and others bright, so what he said is not necessarily wrong, and how do you know it's an attempt to undermine rather than help?

Also I have to ask, would it not be better to ask and clarify his intended meaning then, rather than stew for 4 days possibly thinking the wrong thing?

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If I tell you about my friend Rick and his big dog dick.

If I tell you about my friend Rick and his big dog Dick.

Do you see how the case of one letter changes everything?

I think sometimes Cyparagon gets tired of stupidity and lashes out a bit, then every time he helps later on people automatically think the worst.

I care about useful knowledge, I don't have to have it gift wrapped to make good use of it.

It's childish to be mad about something for 4 days, send a PM and ask what someone meant, then you know where you stand. But be nice in asking and treat others as you wish to be treated, or learn that people are different, or lets all neg rep each other into zero town and be done with it, everyone into the parking lot NOW...lol that was a joke :) see I was smiling.
 
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The reason Cyparagon is a valuable member is because he has a lot of experience with lasers and helps members with their questions, search youtube under cyparagon and you will find a lot of videos he has made in the past on this subject, impressive, but he does appear to enjoy slapping some members around with a wet noodle from time to time, I will call a spade a spade in regard to that. The noodle lashing is one thing, but when he -neg's someone, that can be an issue to me regardless if warranted or not, due to the large number of points he can take away each time he does that, with his elevated rep count. In my opinion I think a -neg should be a single point at most, not so many at one time, and to have a balance a +rep should be a single point too, but I doubt that will change here.

At this point, I even wonder if it should change, since the system has been this way so long, yet, those are my concerns. If the system were changed now, it would make the high rep individuals + rep god's which no mere mortal LPF member could as easily reach in the future. The big issue I see is how deeply the +rep gods can cut, if they deem it necessary to strike out against someone with a neg, take that away and they won't be as easily tolerated for their slayings, the fear factor will be removed then.

Of course, the whole rep system is in question to me anyway, I voted it shouldn't exist, only one of four who see that way.
 
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I'm surprised more people haven't voted, we have so many online, must be a lot of lurkers, that's ok, just saying.
 
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I guess the members who don't vote either just don't see the poll, or don't have an opinion on it enough to care.

Here's what the rep system is in regard to negatives:

Negatives: an effort to control through harming a members reputation.

It is really necessary for the greater good of the community, like traffic fine laws function in society? Or too harmful as a bad cop can be who sometimes uses his authority just because he likes doing so? If we are going to have long time members with high reps dishing out huge traffic fines, so to speak, I think they should at least be trained in what is acceptable to neg for or not.
 
Re: Poll: Spreading the love .... NOT!!!!!

There is already a system in place to insure that neg reps are not overbalanced, regardless of who they come from.

It's the fact that Rep can only be taken away at HALF the rate that it can be given.

Pretty much EVERYONE that stays on LPF for a while, and contributes positively, ends up with a high positive rep.

Even every single one of the banned trolls have an overwhelmingly positive rep. So it's less a question of numbers, and more a question of psychology and seeing a red square/mean or disagreeing comment.

Maybe what we need is a simple one line thread in the welcome section:

Got a Neg Rep? Move on.

Deal with it, more important things to worry about in life.

If you're stuck on it, as many members seen to get, do something positive to earn the rep back, instead of lashing out.
 
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Alaskan said:
Of course, the whole rep system is in question to me anyway, I voted it shouldn't exist, only one of four who see that way.
Click to expand...

Now you're 1 of 5.

This has been a real interesting 12 pages.

This reminds me of the requirement to become a "veteran". What was it 1,000 posts? Easily a number to obtain these days. The number of posts used to mean you knew something about the topic, now it just means you can click a mouse many times. How many 1000 post members are not veterans?...... Reputation as fallen to a similar fate it has become useless and without merit. I don't need the number of posts or a reputation to know if you're an intelligent person or an a$$. I just search on your name and read a few of your posts. Does this forum have an ignore feature? If it does that may be the best answer to the problem.

edit: I see there is an ignore function here. Do not feed the trolls, ignore them. They will whither away and die without controversy to feed on. But also pity the troll, for his life is so empty and loveless that he must agitate others to get attention. Poor troll.
 
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Of course, if you don't like negs, get over it.... Maybe I could turn that around for the guys who like to give them, lets get rid of the system, don't like it? Get over it, LOL.
 
Re: Poll: Spreading the love .... NOT!!!!!

Get rid of the system you say?
That's probably what's going to happen anyway, it's been too much trouble for too long and everyone can't agree.
Alaskan what did you vote, I went with put it back just to keep it simple, but if you want to get rid of it I will change my vote too.
 
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Ah, I'm already over it, just had to speak my mind on this issue, it's a forum, after all.
 
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