Mac vs PC

[ARG]

i am not a osx guy yet idk if i ever will be ...

I just can't get used to the close window button on the left hand side :scowl:

 

[bennett326]

I just can't get used to the close window button on the left hand side :scowl:

and no right click WTF WTF DO THEY KNOW HOW HELPFULL RIGHT CLICK IS????

 

[InfinitusEquitas]

Buy a high end windows laptop. Customize it with up to date, self updating software.

Never install anything on it again. Clear the cache and registry errors every few months.

It may slow down over time, but won't do so anymore than a mac.

Use the money you saved to buy or build a few lasers

 

[danefex]

i was just saying..... btw i dont like apple as a company at all. and i used to be a die hard pc guy but now i am considering a mac quality control wise. i would run boot camp for sure i am not a osx guy yet idk if i ever will be ...

I hear ya man - so was I :beer:

 

[bennett326]

Buy a high end windows laptop. Customize it with up to date, self updating software.

Never install anything on it again. Clear the cache and registry errors every few months.

It may slow down over time, but won't do so anymore than a mac.

Use the money you saved to buy or build a few lasers

i did buy a high end windows laptop i spent 2000$ on it i take care of my programs etc. it sucks too many fucking problems thats why im typing on a 4 year old 100$ mac

 

[InfinitusEquitas]

i did buy a high end windows laptop i spent 2000$ on it i take care of my programs etc. it sucks too many fucking problems thats why im typing on a 4 year old 100$ mac

It doesn't sound like your problems were software (OSX vs WIN) related...

i had a bad display and then a bad hard drive i could of replaced it but i wanted them to pay not me

You do know that the hardware being used in macs and pcs is essentially the same?

 

[bennett326]

It doesn't sound like your problems were software (OSX vs WIN) related...



You do know that the hardware being used in macs and pcs is essentially the same?

i believe you but there has to be another factor my sister (who i bought a mac from) never had computer problems my dad me and my mother own PCs we have problems all the time and most not our fault as i dont let them do stupid shit. i am not a computer expert but i know a fair share.... its not the users fault in my experience

 

[danefex]

i did buy a high end windows laptop i spent 2000$ on it i take care of my programs etc. it sucks too many fucking problems thats why im typing on a 4 year old 100$ mac

holy crap... You need a tech my friend!!! Actually you don't, there's nothing you cannot find on the web these days without enough digging and research. If you ever feel like taking a shot at some of these issues send me a detailed PM of what's going on. I wont promise anything but I am always happy to help out in situations when I'm able to :beer:

 

[ElektroFreak]

Spent my whole life since I was 11 years old working with computers of all shapes and sizes. I feed my family from the money I make now after 20 years of learning and working in the field. I know 'em pretty well I'd say. My own personal preference is the "PC" platform because of it's extreme versatility and very good price/performance ratio. You can do anything with the platform if you understand it and how it all works.

That said, Macs have their place. The target demographic for Mac computers and tablets are people who either don't want to put much thought or effort into their computer usage, or people who are looking to impress other Mac fans whom they perceive as having a leg up somehow because of their choice of computers. Macs are definitely very "trendy".

IMO one of the biggest problems with the Mac platform is that it's closed. Everything about the system, including software development, is tightly controlled by Apple. This can be seen as a good or bad thing depending on perspective so I'll just say that historically, closed computing platforms have not done well in terms of longevity or market share and there are good reasons why. The Mac is something of an anomaly in that regard, but it still commands a far smaller share of the market than the PC platform. With the recent troubles with trojans and botnets running on Macs things could take a turn for the worse.

I will say that while Macs have their place, these so-called "fanboys" do not as far as I'm concerned. There's not much that I find more annoying than some idiot acting like his decision to purchase an Apple computing product is precisely identical to a 4+ year degree in computer science, entitling them to tell YOU, the trained professional with the paperwork and time served to back it up, how things work. IMO they really need to remember that target demographic I was just talking about. People who don't want to put much effort into their computer usage are not likely to have a real good grasp of just how the technology works. Not all Apple owners are this way, but it seems to me like there are a few too many that are.

 

[bennett326]

holy crap... You need a tech my friend!!! Actually you don't, there's nothing you cannot find on the web these days without enough digging and research. If you ever feel like taking a shot at some of these issues send me a detailed PM of what's going on. I wont promise anything but I am always happy to help out in situations when I'm able to :beer:

lol thanks for the offer i will take you up on it some time im sure. now the machine itself was not 2000$ i bought a 4 year warranty which made it about 2k

i can handle the software most of the time but the build quality is a piece of shit reviews did not mention this and wtf it crashed in less than a year. and im no grandma i dont go around downloading every virus i find :crackup:

 

[danefex]

Spent my whole life since I was 11 years old working with computers of all shapes and sizes. I feed my family from the money I make now after 20 years of learning and working in the field. I know 'em pretty well I'd say. My own personal preference is the "PC" platform because of it's extreme versatility and very good price/performance ratio. You can do anything with the platform if you understand it and how it all works.

That said, Macs have their place. The target demographic for Mac computers and tablets are people who either don't want to put much thought or effort into their computer usage, or people who are looking to impress other Mac fans whom they perceive as having a leg up somehow because of their choice of computers. Macs are definitely very "trendy".

IMO one of the biggest problems with the Mac platform is that it's closed. Everything about the system, including software development, is tightly controlled by Apple. This can be seen as a good or bad thing depending on perspective so I'll just say that historically, closed computing platforms have not done well in terms of longevity or market share and there are good reasons why. The Mac is something of an anomaly in that regard, but it still commands a far smaller share of the market than the PC platform. With the recent troubles with trojans and botnets running on Macs things could take a turn for the worse.

I will say that while Macs have their place, these so-called "fanboys" do not as far as I'm concerned. There's not much that I find more annoying than some idiot acting like his decision to purchase an Apple computing product is precisely identical to a 4+ year degree in computer science, entitling them to tell YOU, the trained professional with the paperwork and time served to back it up, how things work. IMO they really need to remember that target demographic I was just talking about. People who don't want to put much effort into their computer usage are not likely to have a real good grasp of just how the technology works. Not all Apple owners are this way, but it seems to me like there are a few too many that are.

Very well said, better than I tried putting it. +:beer: when it lets me again EF

 

[AnthoT]

MAC. Ive used PC's for a long time and i am never going back to a PC ever now. In my opinion the Mac wins in everything except hardware. The software is great though

From a mac
-Anthony

 

[InfinitusEquitas]

i believe you but there has to be another factor my sister (who i bought a mac from) never had computer problems my dad me and my mother own PCs we have problems all the time and most not our fault as i dont let them do stupid shit. i am not a computer expert but i know a fair share.... its not the users fault in my experience

I've "fixed" ~60 computers over the past five years. In only three cases was it a hardware issue, and not what I would consider a result of user error.

Are you there to watch your family to make sure they don't install stupid toolbars? To make sure they click cancel when some xxx website asks them to install some crapware? To check if they update their AV software? What about firewalls? No one can be there 24/7.

Much as I'd like to think well of my family and friends, many of them are morons :banghead: when it comes to basic computer use. I don't consider myself an expert either... last program I wrote was in 2002

Apple might have better quality control in place, which could account for a bit of difference with hardware. If you stick to name brand laptops though, that's generally not the case.

Once you get past the hardware though, it's all software... and there it really comes down to the competency of the end user.

Apple is designed to be more intuitive, but this intuition comes at a price. You have less native capability, control and software to choose from.

Some people love apple for this. For the fact that it just works. Others don't mind a challenge once in a while, if it means paying less, and being able to do more.

I also feel that with the rise in apple's popularity over the past ~5 years Mac users are in for a rude awakening soon, where it comes to viruses/malware.

EDIT: Seems EF beat me to most of it.

 

[Things]

tl;dr

Mac for video editing, PC's for everything else. Simple as that

 

[bennett326]

I've "fixed" ~60 computers over the past five years. In only three cases was it a hardware issue, and not what I would consider a result of user error.

Are you there to watch your family to make sure they don't install stupid toolbars? To make sure they click cancel when some xxx website asks them to install some crapware? To check if they update their AV software? What about firewalls? No one can be there 24/7.

Much as I'd like to think well of my family and friends, many of them are morons :banghead: when it comes to basic computer use. I don't consider myself an expert either... last program I wrote was in 2002

Apple might have better quality control in place, which could account for a bit of difference with hardware. If you stick to name brand laptops though, that's generally not the case.

Once you get past the hardware though, it's all software... and there it really comes down to the competency of the end user.

Apple is designed to be more intuitive, but this intuition comes at a price. You have less native capability, control and software to choose from.

Some people love apple for this. For the fact that it just works. Others don't mind a challenge once in a while, if it means paying less, and being able to do more.

I also feel that with the rise in apple's popularity over the past ~5 years Mac users are in for a rude awakening soon, where it comes to viruses/malware.

EDIT: Seems EF beat me to most of it.

lol i cleanout their computers pretty often but yeah they install stupid shit time to time and i yell at them for it . i like pc software most of my personal problems have all been hardware related. so i would really fall on the pc side but in my experience mac hardware has better quality control? also i like the casing of the computers. honestly the only thing that would stop me from buying a macbook pro and running windows on it is that i would look like a douchebag fanboy hipster carrying around a mac with a huge light up apple on it

 

[InfinitusEquitas]

lol i cleanout their computers pretty often but yeah they install stupid shit time to time and i yell at them for it . i like pc software most of my personal problems have all been hardware related. so i would really fall on the pc side but in my experience mac hardware has better quality control? also i like the casing of the computers. honestly the only thing that would stop me from buying a macbook pro and running windows on it is that i would look like a douchebag fanboy hipster carrying around a mac with a huge light up apple on it

Stick to cheap ~$500 netbooks for browsing, and self built PC's for everything else. You'll be much happier.