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FrozenGate by Avery

just sayin' later folks

I made a tiny error with the best intentions, and two people who contribute the least actual laser-related information here (niko, Tech Junkie) decided it would be a good idea to give me a bunch of crap about it.

I'm sorry, maybe you never considered the fact that I do not own the same amount of funds some other people have to help fund laser research. I can't afford laser systems like you're able to. Heck, I can't even afford many of the pointers displayed here. I have a 30mW DX pointer and the generously sent to me MXDL and 405nm by dave and jander. The other lasers I own are prizes from banner competitions.
Also, maybe contributing to the forum means nothing to you. The Review Thread means nothing, the Diode Compilation Thread means nothing, organizing a GB to help members get some lasers at discount price with 0% personal gain means nothing, keeping the box list updated and tidy means also nothing. Could it just be that my time means nothing to you? I'm pretty sure that is what you think, since as I don't contribute to lasers because I can't afford them, I HAVE to do something to be worthwhile here, don't I?

If this is an attack to my post count and/or rep. power then I can assure you that you could take all of that away and I would still come back here and contribute as much as I can.

And niko, what is it you do here anyways, exactly? You don't talk about lasers much, and you just built your first one a couple months ago after having been here for 2 years.. You've surely got TONS of laser-related knowledge to share. Maybe you should start sharing it instead of "moderating" people who have nothing but the best intentions. Maybe save that crap for the people who deserve it.

I do have things to contribute regarding lasers. I can help with theory, but there are members such as PBD, climbak, laserben who know MUCH more than many of us and are most likely to give better answers than I can. I try to help members with math every now and then.
I'm sorry you felt like I was moderating you or anybody. As you can see, I rarely jump on someone, the last one I jumped at (uncalled for) was buildabluraylaser. I was 100% wrong about what I said to him so after being put into place by dopamine I realized I had to edit those posts, which I did.

You know, after what you said up there I realized why I HAD to say what I said on the box thread. You not shipping the box where it should've been made me feel like my work (keeping the list updated, organising the box's path) is 100% useless and actually meant nothing to you. So yeah, there you have it.

I also barged in the "fight" because I thought you were still arguing about it. Dave is correct when he says that humans don't like confrontation. It IS true, I don't like it, especially between you, me, and all the friends I've made here.

I've done my best to contribute as much good, relevant information here as I could, but apparently that is all meaningless if you happen to send a package to the wrong place on accident (the first such occurrence for me since I've been here), apologize repeatedly, and offer to pay to correct the problem. Somehow after all that I'm still the one who's wrong. The idea of saying "oh well, EF is a good, decent member so we'll let him slide on this one small thing" apparently isn't an option.

We do thank you for the information you provided, as we previously did in every thread or comment you made regarding those subjects.

You were only looking for something/somebody responsible for triggering your leaving. Don't try to guilt me into believing that me and (in the less part, TJ) are 100% responsible for "making you mad enough" to leave LPF.

But then Niko decided it would be a good idea to join in and make me out to be the bad guy, even after the situation was over, and assert his "self-moderation" where it wasn't needed or wanted by pointing out my error, trying to make me feel stupid for not paying close enough attention, and telling myself and TJ to "stop fighting" when we already had.

Sorry for that. I really feel sorry for this, but I wish I didn't let you guilt me into thinking that I was the one that made you leave LPF. You had that planned long ago. You kept on getting madder and madder these days, you jumped at people too. I wasn't the only one you had a discussion with this week.
You seriously can't consider other people's time, don't you? I know you have a family, maybe a stressful job. But we ALSO have that stuff, you know? Going to college to study Industrial Engineering is a big deal to me and I spent a lot of time studying. My posting here doesn't mean that I have time to waste, I come here to relax for some minutes after doing some excercises on X subject (AND to read interesting stuff about my hobby).

In addition, so you actually know how I feel about this: I've been studying my A$$ off for the last couple of days. I woke up at 9:00AM each day and went to sleep at 4:30AM, studying through the whole day, sitting at home, watching the pain on my leg grow stronger each hour for being so much time stressed and nervous about big freaking impossible-to-pass exams.
Today I got an email with the mark I got on the exam I took yesterday. It was a 7 (out of 10). Yet I couldn't feel happy about it, NOT THE LEAST BIT, even after all the work I put on studying for that test... because all day long I felt bad and worried too much about the discussion we had in that thread and now you leaving LPF.

So there you have it. Thanks for that. Getting this out of my system makes no change at all, I still feel bad about it even when I know I shouldn't.


This is my first huge long rant and I really hope you read it all.
 





EF, I also hope you stay. I value your information, and knowlege.

I don't post very often (learning more from listening, than talking ect.) but I post here to let you know that you are appreciated.

Take care,
Ray
 
@ Niko....That was an interesting read.

You made some valid points.
 
I can never tell if these threads are goodbye notes, or cries for attention. Maybe a little of both?

I know that when I wanted attention and was considering leaving, this kind of thread was how I was going to get the "oh please don't go we all need and want you around Kenom" response.


sure makes a person feel wanted, needed, and powerful to have a whole bunch of folks say to you that they value you and want you to stay.
 
Sad to see you go Ef, will certainly miss your posts they always made perfect sense when I was confused on a subject :).
Niko I think everyone has that stress for exams or has gone through it, but goodluck with your exams I have some coming up in January, bah all the best to everyone infact!
 
While all this was going down EF was helping me fix my PC issue like we were old friends-He is the kind of LPF member that made me join- IMO---- hope EF comes back soon.-Len
 
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You shouldn't leave just because some people are giving you a hard time. The ignore feature is there for a reason, ya know? :)
 
Did I miss something??!!

People, this is just a forum, not a 2nd life.

If any mistakes happen, just apologize/forgive and move on....
 
EF you have taught me literally everything I know abouT scanners. I don't think I will ever be able to repay you.

I hope to keep in contact. Are you going to be on PL?
 
I must have missed it also as I have no idea what happened. :\
All I can say though (and I know it is easy for us to say, but) forget about it and move on. Or if your not the type to forget, make it right.

Or Else, your just the give up/easy way out guy(s).

-Moptsp
 
man. That sucks, and I just got here... EF gave me the most solid information I've ever gotten about lasers...

I could only hope to ever know half as much.
 
People, this is just a forum, not a 2nd life.

If any mistakes happen, just apologize/forgive and move on....



Second that. 99% of us are just pen pals. No need to let someone behind a keyboard change your life style. There is always the ignore, and shut down button. Or just a simple FU and move on.
 
seriously....

You need to use some smilies in your posts sometimes....

I don't know if you meant....

seriously.... (are you kidding me)
or
seriously.... (your a moron)
or
seriously.... (I agree)
or
seriously.... (that is funny)
or
seriously.... (I don't understand)

It is hard to get an idea what your intent is with just one word...
(a picture is worth 1000 words)...:san:

Jerry
 
You need to use some smilies in your posts sometimes....

I don't know if you meant....

seriously.... (are you kidding me)
or
seriously.... (your a moron)
or
seriously.... (I agree)
or
seriously.... (that is funny)
or
seriously.... (I don't understand)

It is hard to get an idea what your intent is with just one word...
(a picture is worth 1000 words)...:san:

Jerry

well pfff geee.... I dont know how to use them on this site!!!

the only ones that i know how to use are the boring ones. you guys always post the really cool complicated ones....
 





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