Re: GREEN LASER MODULE at price $10.50. last 7days
Standstone11 said:
Dear all
For Electron case , I want to say even if the module arrived at underpower ,it is just one until now . it may be caused by many reasons , operating temperature , test method , or some happened on the way . pls trust me i didn't cheat him at all . I have 100% honest to sell him 200mw green laser torch . but finally it is underpowered ,I sent to him some e-mails initially just want to check and make sure if it really underpower , it is reasonable , if every customer said the product he got is underpower and I respond to exchange or refund at once . it is not possible .I should ensure if it is test by properly or some other reasons then do exchange or refund .
so Electron thought me persistent and post it on LPF and call me fraud . i never said to him I WON'T exchange or refund . as long as he said he didn't like it at all or ask a new one , I will do as he requested even pay the freight .but he didn't ,he beat and abuse me with some others . which hurt me deeply . i want to end up this case and let him return and refund him . he said 6~7 days will arrive at me , but 10 days passed it still not arrive . so I go to business trip to another city .finally it arrive at last Friday late afternoon and my colleague sigature it instead of me as I am at another city . our colleague thought it is just a common parcel from customers,just left it in my drawer , we have many parcels from foreigner who let us develop new products . so I came back today morning and saw Joe's message and his dispute to paypal . now I refund to him .
in addition,i didn't advise him if there is IR filter ,it is my neglect and forget .but I sell to many customers here are all without IR filter and declared on my post .I think I should pay more attention in future when quoted .
pls don't refer to this case anymore ,my post is so long .end up it !!!!!!!!!!
PS:ensure to be enough .if underpower , pls return it to me freight first at your expense . if it really didn't work or underpower , I will make exchange and refund you the frieght you prepaid . then send exchange items to you freight paid by me .
You know it's a shame even when the refund has been completed after I complained to PayPal, you still have to try and lie about it and twist the facts around in an attempt to save face. You were on this forum everyday and even sent PM's to others; sure you could have read it from another location, but then you certainly knew about the package. 2nd you didn't refund the return shipping fee, you played a game. 3rd you knew & checked yourself it would take 10 days for the package to arrive. 4th they attempted to delivery the package in the morning and you wasn't home; you signed for it at the end of the day. It was a nice square box, I doubt it was tossed into a desk drawer, as it won't fit most. 5. You didn't refund back Monday when you go into "work", rather you made the refund Tuesday @ 10:16pm AFTER I filed a complaint with PayPal....I'm sure you read the complaint and said "crap now what to do, and you knew the smart thing was to refund".
Here's the message trails of the events, and Yes Finally it refunded; but make no mistake about unlike what she states above, she did NOT pay return freight, rather played a little game which netted the original only. Susie you said your bit and now I'm responding to it.
****message trails****
To:
aconsenco@live.cn
Subject: RE: solve problem
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 23:26:16 -0400
Susie the USPS online site shows the package to cost USD $35.00 for Priority Mail 6-10 days delivery time, the Post Office dosen't open to 9am though,
Let me know if this acceptable to you.
Joe
From:
aconsenco@live.cn
Subject: RE: solve problem
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:49:22 +0800
Dear Joe ,
That is too much , I will pay part of it =$15.00 ,then refund you $240.00 for goods value(not include previous freight 15.00) when goods arrived in original package and no scratch .
I won't send you again as you hurt me as well as I WON'T risk at USA customs .
so that means I will give fund to you this time freight $15.00 +$240.00=$255.00.
Susie .
To:
aconsenco@live.cn
Subject: RE: solve problem
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 00:00:35 -0400
Susie, you can go to
http://www.usps.com and put in shipping from 33778 to China, small package, 35oz priority shipping 6-10 days w/ins $250.00 and that is the amount they want.
Joe
From:
aconsenco@live.cn
Subject: RE: solve problem
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:14:04 +0800
Dear Joe ,
I saw this
http://ircalc.usps.gov/IntlMailServices.aspx?Country=10063&M=2&P=0&O=35&sd=1
on line price is $29.50 . post office is $31.50.
I am confused now ,pls let me know your ideas what I should do .
Susie
To:
aconsenco@live.cn
Subject: RE: solve problem
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 00:52:27 -0400
That looks correct Susie, I added insurance to protect the both of us.
Those prices are always a little off, I'll will ship it out in the morning and I will give Scan the receipt and send you the Image of it; so that you know the exact price.
Joe
From:
aconsenco@live.cn
Subject: RE: solve problem
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:15:55 +0800
Dear Joe,
Shall I pay freight at $15.00 .and then refund you $240.
that means I will refund you at your original fund $255.00 . that Paypal will return my fees when receive your origianl $250.00 . can you understand me ?
Susie
From:
aconsenco@live.cn
Subject: RE: solve problem
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:20:57 +0800
Dear Joe ,
Or do you accept my second propose , refund you part and you won't return product.
Susie
To:
aconsenco@live.cn
Subject: RE: solve problem
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 01:55:45 -0400
Susie,
I will be shipping you the Laser back when the Post Office opens here, it's only 1:55AM they don't open until 9:00AM.
I will send you an image of the receipt I get from the Post Office once I have it.
Please refund the Laser and let us both put this behind us.
Thank you,
Joe
Significantly Not as Described dispute Open: Case #PP-571-704-904
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Sent: Tue 10/28/08 7:01 AM
Your Significantly Not as Described dispute for the payment you sent to
on Sep 24, 2008 (Transaction 4A783364TK122974Y) is now open.
We notified
of your request for a $255.00 USD refund. If
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to this refund, the dispute will be closed once the refund is processed.
Dispute Closed: Case #PP-571-704-904[ch8207]
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