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FrozenGate by Avery

“Something Is Monitoring The Planet, And They Are Monitoring it Very Cautiously”

Did he really need multiple neg reps for posting this thread? It's all woo, to be sure, but I didn't see him posting any rude comments, and he did put it on the "other" forum, for what that's worth. Just my $0.02.

Because hes spewing conspiracy theory type wackjob nonsense that really has no place here. Sure, it may be the "other" section, but there are conspiracy theory forums for this garbage. Basically this:

Making a wild claim and then running away and refusing to defend it or discus it certainly appears as a textbook example of trolling, for example.

twitter is by far the best place for this sort of thing, not LPF, on twitter you can just share links to things other like minded people may find of interest and if someone comments you can discuss it or not.

Exactly. And maybe on twitter he won't have people who have half a brain to quickly point out the stupidity of his posts, like we do here :D
 





Laser Project! Please Stop! I understand theses are your feelings and what you believe in but common dude get real. Life is not a friggin hologram nor are we being probed by aliens! Yes there are things out there that can not be explained! But really dude get a grip.

There is no world conspiracy that every one is going to get brain washed! there are no interment camps in the us for political dissidents, there are no such thing as e.t. There is no holes above the poles and all that bull crap. Wise the F^%k up and stop please posting this crap
 
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Um... the wild claim, maybe? Someone makes a wild claim, and you ask "what is there to discuss"? Did you completely forget what the discussion is about, or are you suggesting if you ignore it that it will go away?

Nothing is really gained from discussing such claims, nobody is going to change their minds, no meaningful progress will be made.

The only reason I came back to this thread is because I noticed the OP had some red bars and wondered what he did. I don't agree that he needed multiple neg reps here since nothing in his posts offended me or struck me as offensive in general, and I figure the mods would just delete the thread if there were a legitimate problem.

Cyparagon said:
Making a wild claim and then running away and refusing to defend it or discus it certainly appears as a textbook example of trolling, for example.

Responding to the troll appears to be a textbook example of feeding the troll. Who is really in charge here?

The irony of the troll is that they can't order you to anything, or punish you if you don't. If you decide to just roll your eyes and hit the back button instead of posting a reply, then there's nothing the troll can do about it. If they behave even worse then the ban hammer usually isn't far behind.

I'm not one to talk because I post my share of crazy rants too, o well....
 
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I noticed the OP had some red bars and wondered what he did. I don't agree that he needed multiple neg reps here since nothing in his posts offended me or struck me as offensive in general, and I figure the mods would just delete the thread if there were a legitimate problem.

Red bars are for more than posts deemed offensive enough to be removed. The report system exists for that :p
 
no meaningful progress will be made.

Not with that attitude. Not when you've already given up.

I don't agree that he needed multiple neg reps here since nothing in his posts offended me

This has already been answered. If something wasn't clear, please be more specific.

Responding to the troll appears to be a textbook example of feeding the troll.

Leaving red bars isn't validating anything. It's a warning to others.

Personally, I'm responding for other reasons. I don't believe he's trolling.

If you decide to just roll your eyes and hit the back button...

Then the issue isn't addressed, and he's succeeded in spreading the nonsense.

If you honestly don't see a problem with the posting of misinformation, then you and I disagree on a fundamental level that I doubt we can get past.
 
If you guys hate the topic so much, why post in this thread? I have seen many other topics posted by people, and when somebody doesn't care for that type of thread they ignore it.

The reason he is not willing to debate in public (but he will over PM like he mentioned) is because no matter what he argues, people will say he is wrong no matter what.

Crazyspaz, (fitting name by the way) instead of just coming off like a rude Jerk, why not just ignore it?

Cyparagon, I have always liked you and think you are a really cool guy, but let's give it a rest. No matter what he debates people will find something wrong with his argument and thus continue with the neg reps. That's why he said he would rather discuss it in private after seeing the publics reaction.
 
So many differing world views and realities, it's amazing, what some see as ignorance on my part I see as ignorance on their part for being unable to open their eyes enough and see. BOTH of us believe we are correct, no trolling, I'm sincere.
 
Aha, I've got it! I know who's monitoring the earth VERY closely. It was right in front of our faces the whole time!

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Google Earth's aerial imagery is provided by aliens in UFO's wearing berets tasting fine cheeses, I've seen them myself.
 
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Cyparagon said:
If you honestly don't see a problem with the posting of misinformation, then you and I disagree on a fundamental level that I doubt we can get past.

I see a problem with posting misinformation that can get somebody injured/killed, or get them arrested, or otherwise have serious real-life repercussions.

I don't see the harm in posting UFO theories. Reasonable people already know it's a crock and not worth taking seriously. If someone actually does take them seriously, to the point of spending significant money/time trying to 'prove' them, then I would attribute that to mental issues/illness that make the person prone to believing bullshit and behaving irrationally; if not UFO theory then they would just obsess over something else, the Bible, Illuminati/NWO, scientology, whatever. UFO and neo-mysticism are relatively benign, so for me it's not worth the effort to argue it. I'd just be telling people what they already know, and the pathologically irrational need to talk to a shrink, not to me.

Neg rep should be given for posting dangerous misinformation or behaving like an asshole. I don't see that the OP did either of these things, so no, in this case I don't see any real problem.

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Google Earth's aerial imagery is provided by aliens in UFO's wearing berets tasting fine cheeses, I've seen them myself.
I bet you've got one of the flying saucers in your garage, don't you.
 
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What if you have seen a orb shaped ship floating within 500 feet of you with no windows, just hovering there silently and then were brave enough to speak about it but others denied the reality of that experience? What then? I was fortunate enough to have that happen to me, but unfortunately for the doubters, they haven't.
 
What if you have seen a orb shaped ship floating within 500 feet of you with no windows, just hovering there silently and then were brave enough to speak about it but others denied the reality of that experience? What then? I was fortunate enough to have that happen to me, but unfortunately for the doubters, they haven't.

I'd say DAMN this is some really good acid!
 
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What if you have seen a orb shaped ship floating within 500 feet of you with no windows, just hovering there silently and then were brave enough to speak about it but others denied the reality of that experience? What then? I was fortunate enough to have that happen to me, but unfortunately for the doubters, they haven't.

Except you still deny to speak about it? If I saw something floating in the sky that wasn't blindingly obvious to be an actual known airship, I sure as hell wouldn't be sticking my head in the sand about it. We're also in the day and age where I'd most likely have some form of image capturing device on me, so I could at least produce some evidence of it's existence. Apart from that, I've probably fallen and whacked my head on something.
 
I've been talking about that experience for over 40 years my friend.

I can offer you something that is hard to deny, if you are honest and don't have blocks to the reality to prevent you from seeing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7ZitlrRLgs

Of course, as is natural, when something like this happens all kinds of people come out of the woodwork telling every other possible distracting theory of what it really was instead of just seeing the obvious. Sci-ops, the government, all kinds of theories except for what happened. What was it? It wasn't a drone. These religious nuts read all kinds of things into it because it happened at a religious location, unfortunately. The second half with that guy trying to connect it to his belief of a false messiah is so, so..... well, I won't listen to it.

What was it? It wasn't anything you see at an airport, that is certain. Was it alien? I think it could have been, lots of people think that.... and a million flies all like to land on and eat...... so that proves nothing in itself. However, at face value, I think the video shows at least one thing, some of our world views need to start changing soon if you want to keep up with reality.
 
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Who knows, maybe you did see something. Migraine scotomas can take forms like that, and more bizarre ones as well, and there are 'silent migraines' where the aura isn't accompanied by the headache. Other sensory distortions may be present as well.

There's wikipedia article about it, and if you google 'migraine scotoma' and look at images, there are lots of pictures that people have drawn of theirs. Can you imagine seeing things like that?

Someone I worked with a few years back suffered from migraines and claimed to see auras before an attack. I had asked her about it and whether she saw anything, and she was surprised because apparently a lot of people have never heard of it. I imagine if you've never heard of migraine auras it would be pretty scary if a bunch of flashing lights and geometric shapes appeared out of nowhere. Weird sounds can manifest as well. I'd be terrified enough, but for someone who has other mental problems, something like that could be traumatic and it wouldn't surprise me if some sightings and/or abduction experiences are due to this and similar phenomena.
 
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