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pseudonomen137 said:Now my response to your last point:
"The one thing that justifies why a "terrorist" would drive a plane into a building is the COMMON misunderstanding (due to propaganda) (yea, Americans are swimming in OCEANS of propaganda, and the best thing is most dont know it) that ""dem arabs believe if they kill themselves they go to heaven"". Find me ONE place in ANY part of the qur'aan or the prophets sayings that says "if you kill yourself you go to heaven!!!"
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Not that I'm an expert on the issue (very far from in fact), but as I've heard countless times and come to understand it, the texts indeed do not say that. However, that has not stopped people from interpreting it that way or people from abusing the notion to get people to do things they wouldn't normally do. I hear news of suicide bombers nearly daily it seems, and while its not impossible, I'd be hard-pressed to believe they are all just a continuation of the conspiracy and there really are no people willing to die in the name of a cause. I myself can't be so level-headed as to claim I've never felt tempted to take drastic measures for a cause before, and I'm sure you can't either. I may not be at the point of flying a plane into a building for a cause, but with so many people and so many injustices in this world, I have no trouble believing its possible to find people willing to make such a sacrifice towards something they believe in (IE. how you are willing to stand up so vehemently for your opinions on 9/11)
"Verily, for the Muttaqun [righteous], there will be a success (paradise); gardens and grapeyards; and young full-breasted (mature) maidens of equal age; and a full cup (of wine)" (An-Naba 78:31-34).
Nothing in the Koran specifically states that the faithful are allotted 72 virgins apiece. For this elaboration we turn to the hadith, traditional sayings traced with varying degrees of credibility to Muhammad. Hadith number 2,562 in the collection known as the Sunan al-Tirmidhi says, "The least [reward] for the people of Heaven is 80,000 servants and 72 wives, over which stands a dome of pearls, aquamarine and ruby."
"Think not of those who are slain in Allah's way as dead. Nay, they live, finding their sustenance from their Lord. They rejoice in the Bounty provided by Allah...the (Martyrs) glory in the fact that on them is no fear, nor have they (cause to) grieve. They rejoice in the Grace and the Bounty from Allah, and in the fact that Allah suffereth not the reward of the Faithful to be lost (in the least)." (3:169-71)[13]
Allah's Apostle said, "Someone came to me from my Lord and gave me the news that if any of my followers dies worshipping none along with Allah, he will enter Paradise." I asked, "Even if he committed adultery and theft?" He replied, "Even if he committed adultery and theft." (Volume 2, Book 23, Number 329)[15] :Sahih Bukhari
All that being said -- crazy is crazy no matter which imaginary being or invisible friend told you to do the crazy shit
Peace,
dave
**EDIT** http://bahai-library.org/theses/dying/dying4.islam.html