"Laser 301" host breakdown.

[vortish]

I have a empty shell of one these that i would like to put a 200 mw 405 in or 445 i just do not knove the experience to do it its a 302

 

[alessnilsen]

Thanks for the info!

That's true!

Here the 780nm host:

And my 532nm where this joint is more tiny:

I can try to take apart the 780nm, is a scratched and ugly host to see how it works!

303/301 is a cute, cheap and interesting host!

The green arrow points out another hidden feature. The front end of the focus knob can be removed by heating up the glue holding it on. It's a simple piece of cut sheet metal covering some kind of accessory socket. Look at the front aperture and you can tell. Is the aperture a constant diameter for its whole length (~5mm if so), or does it look like a thin piece of metal covering a hollow space? If the latter, then the front end of the knob is a separate piece. Removing it gives much easier access to the lens barrel and allows adjustments to the lens without needing to remove the focus knob.

You say this?

 

[Marco Polo]

I can try to take apart the 780nm, is a scratched and ugly host to see how it works!

Don't take apart the 780nm if it still works. I'd even be willing to buy it from you if you want to get rid of it. I've never seen one in 780nm, and don't have that wavelength in my collection at all. Do you know how many mW? Scuffed-up hosts are no problem to me, as you will see in the image below.

Below is the complete teardown of the front end of my 405nm 301, minus removing the brass lens barrel because I didn't feel like dialing in the focus again. This, and an identical 405nm, were the first lasers I bought that were above 5mW. The second laser died the LED death within minutes of powerup. The one in the picture is two years old, works fine, and the only issue with it is that sometimes the focus drifts away from where I set it. It's a solid laser. The tool marks are from early disassemblies before I found that it was basically safe to heat it up and melt the glue before unscrewing it. Now I can unscrew it without tools.

I'm 100% sure that your laser is assembled as shown in the image. It's just that the joint between the front end and main host is very well concealed.

The panels show:

1) Front end assembled and installed on host.

2) Front end detaches from host body like so. Brass laser module is also visible.

3) A close-up of the front end.

4) Focusing knob removed from focus adjuster tube which is sticking out from the front end casing.

5) Top of focus adjuster tube sticking out of front end casing. Brass lens barrel is installed in adjuster tube. This is what your picture shows above, minus the lens barrel.

6) Inside of front end, showing the threads inside the casing wall, the adjuster tube, and lens. To remove the adjuster barrel rotate it to the left while looking at it just as this panel shows it.

7) Focus adjuster barrel removed from front end casing.

8) Close-up of top of adjuster barrel, showing installed brass lens barrel.

9) Close-up of bottom of adjuster barrel, showing spanner holes and lens.

 

[ped]

Image courtesy of Home - OdicForce Lasers Online Shop.

 

[alessnilsen]

Don't take apart the 780nm if it still works. I'd even be willing to buy it from you if you want to get rid of it. I've never seen one in 780nm, and don't have that wavelength in my collection at all. Do you know how many mW? Scuffed-up hosts are no problem to me, as you will see in the image below.

Probably about 100mW+, is a CD-RW diode driven at 165mA with a boost driver (originally a 405nm laser, but my actually 405nm LD only supports 100mA of current) using a very bad plastic lens (since the light is dim, I can't see the beam defects caused by the lens).

I was planning get a low power single mode 445nm LD and put on it because it uses a boost driver that is suitable for those LD's and a quality lens for it, what you think?

Also, my first high power 532nm have a 301 like host, but with some differences, I remember that when I dropped it (what killed it) I unscrewed the part of the danger label easily, and found the crystals losen:

I have a JD-851 host waiting for a driver and a lens too.

 

[alessnilsen]

That's some photos of my 532:

Got this lens cap out:

I used a old laser tube that fits the screw, then it comes off with it:

:beer:

 

[Dud3cmon]

Can someone help me i need a response i have a laser 301 but lost the safety keys do any of u know if i can use keys from another laser

 

[joeyss]

Pretty sure they're all the same.

 

[N8XYN]

SD-Laser "301" and "303" host breakdown.

Update - 7/1/2014

I started this thread just over a year ago after a long, frustrating, and ultimately futile search for technical information concerning the Laser 301, 303, and similar laser pointers. Reading over it now, I can see that the information is very sparse and that it leaves much to be desired. Over the next few days I will be correcting that.

Expect new photos, a much more thorough host breakdown, comparison and contrasting of host variants, and general information such as thread sizes and whatnot.


Introduction: Laser "301" and "303"

If you're interested in lasers, you can't get very far into the hobby before you encounter the "301" and "303" handheld lasers. These lasers seem to be everywhere. Ebay searches involving "laser" will turn them up by the dozen, and they're sold on scores, if not hundreds of websites specializing in cheap Chinese exports. The 301 and 303 are a common sight at music festivals, block parties, and other large outdoor events as well, due to their brightness, ease of use, and low cost.

Despite being easy and fun to use, the 301/303 lasers do have frequent quality control issues and are often derided as junk by experienced builders.

I have to wonder, also, if LPF as we know it would even exist without the 301. For a lot of now-established members, myself included, the 301 was the first laser (or one of the first) that we ever owned; its low cost made the laser hobby accessible to us when it otherwise would not have been. At least a few of those members have advanced to become experts in the hobby - builders, machinists, artists.

But even though the 301 and 303 are probably the most common handheld lasers in the world, almost no information about them is publicly available. Technical info about the lasers and hosts, manufacturer info... I've spent hundreds of hours looking for it, and have found very little. I'm not the only one who is curious - we get questions about the 301/303 posted here on LPF all the time, and it's always the same questions... what lens do I need, how do I correct the focus, can I replace the diode/dpss module if it dies, etc.

Everything after this point still needs to be updated.

EDIT 6/5/14: The laser below is a 532nm DPSS laser. That is why the module looks as it does; if your 301 is just a diode laser (i.e. not DPSS) then the internals will look similar, except you will see the laser diode rather than the pre-expander lens that you see below. Direct diode lasers also have slightly different dimensions for the focusing barrel, but the general layout is the same. The host is still a PITA to work on in any case.

I couldn't find an explicit breakdown diagram for the 301's, but they are pretty common, so I decided to make my own. Hopefully the info will be helpful!

HOST BREAKDOWN:

1 - Crown, a.k.a. focusing knob.
2 - Focus barrel. The lens barrel screws into this part. The focus barrel can be unscrewed from (3) but don't bother unless you need to replace the lens. It's easy to get this part cross-threaded when re-installing it, so be careful about that.
3 - Front end outer casing
4 - Laser module. This one is DPSS but direct diodes can look similar.
5 - Main host body. The laser module is press-fit into this part. The driver is located beneath the button.
6 - Battery compartment extender. With extender in place, the laser fits one 18650 cell. With extender removed, one 16340.
7 - Tailcap and key switch. The switch may be threaded or press-fit into the tailcap.

Unscrewing (3) from (5) can be a hassle. They are screwed together very tightly, and usually there is glue/thread locker. I resorted to using channel locks to get them apart. I needed two pairs, one to grip the host body (5) and the other to rotate the front end (3). This did leave tool marks, but they aren't bad. You do need to grip the tools TIGHTLY because the anodizing is very slick. If you don't grip them tight, the tools will slide and tear up the anodizing. I will say that even with tools it did take a fair amount of force to break the parts loose. After you open the laser the first time, subsequent openings will generally be easier unless you re-glue the threads.

I tried using a strap wrench in place of channel locks; it didn't work. The host was too small and too smooth for the strap to get a good grip, and the wrench just slid. I don't recommend using a pipe wrench either - they are prone to sliding before they can establish a good grip, and that would likely tear up the anodizing.

Warning: You can power up the laser with the front end (3) removed and shine it on a wall to check the cavity output. Don't look into the exposed laser cavity while the laser is on. With the front end removed, there is nothing between your eyes and the active laser apparatus. The pump diode is IR and puts out 100's of mW. The vanadate crystal will be lasing 1064nm as well, figure another ~100mW there. Your yellow safety glasses will NOT protect you from ANY of that - with IR it will be as if the safety glasses were not even there. IR-safe glasses will have an explicit statement and O.D. rating to that effect. If yours don't, then you must assume that IR will pass through with zero attenuation - please be careful!

LENS ASSEMBLY:

Close-up of lens barrel (2) inside lens barrel housing (3) plus the tweezers I used to adjust focus. The barrel and housing are threaded. Normally the crown and lens barrel are screwed and thread-locked together and rotate as one unit. This makes the laser focusable.

The lens is plastic and is extremely delicate. Compressed air in a can is the best way to keep it clean. Anything remotely abrasive will scratch it. If crud does get on the lens and canned air doesn't remove it, I honestly don't have any good advice for you. A botched cleaning attempt is what ruined my lens and brought about this "project" in the first place. NEVER use paper of any kind to clean the lens - doing so will ruin it. Avoid touching the lens, getting anything (grease, metal particles, dust, ANYTHING) on it, don't let your tools touch it either. Spray it often with compressed air throughout the project just to be safe.

If the focus is wrong, it can be adjusted. Focus is adjusted by loosening crown threads and rotating the lens barrel relative to the crown. The tweezers fit into the small holes and make a good "driver" for rotating the lens barrel while the crown is held stationary. This is a bit of a hassle because the crown never wants to stay put once you've found the right focus. But, with a bit of finagling you can eventually get it into the right place. Apply thread-locker to hold the crown in place.

ETA: On thinking about focusing these, if one is willing to adjust the lens carrier itself, perhaps the following would be best: Remove focus knob (1) from adjuster barrel (2), leaving the lens assembly (3) installed on main host body (5). Screw adjuster barrel into lens assembly until adjuster barrel bottoms out against host body. Adjust lens carrier to set this position as focused to infinity, or whatever else you want. Then, apply a little thread-locking compound to the lens carrier's threads. Avoid getting compound on lens. Apply compound to threads at top of adjuster barrel, and reinstall the adjustment knob. Adjustment knob should be turned down until it is firmly stopped, but don't over-tighten. Allow thread-locker to cure and, unless I'm missing something, that should be foolproof every time.

The brass lens carrier itself can also be adjusted inside the focus barrel, but don't bother. It's a hassle (glued threads), it isn't necessary, and your tools come dangerously close to the lens (high risk of ruining it!).

LASER MODULE:

Close-up of the laser module. I'm pretty sure it's press-fitted into the host and probably glued as well. Chilling the module might make it easier to remove it. Would an Aixiz module fit in there? Laser 301's are cheap ($15 from Amazon, last I checked), maybe it would be worthwhile for experienced builders to buy them just for the hosts.

The 405nm units have a similar module, but there is only the laser diode. The diodes are small, probably 3.8mm. It would be interesting to see a 520nm direct green custom build.

Before and after pics:

This is the good laser cavity with bad lens (left) and its shiny new good lens (right).

Very helpful thanks. I measured the module in my 303 and it's 8mm so a no go for what I wanted. I picked a 405nm 200mw module for cheap on ebay thought I might give it a home but the module is in a 12mm can so that's off the table

 

[hakzaw1]

Pretty sure they're all the same.

Not really-- I own many & it is clear that some '300' hosts are made better.
IMHO any laser that uses 18650s is a better choice than any that do not. (coz they are the best deal-at either low cost or free)-- used 18650s are inside most large laptop PCs and new if you buy an unused batt packs (ebay)---which lately have become very cheap coz the large/heavy laptops are being replaced by smaller and lighter 'portable' PCs . I have been meaning to do a tut on this...

PC repair shops will give them to you BTW.
IF you go that way---take your time until you know how to harvest w/o damage to the batts or more so to your fingers....you can get cut or shocked...trust me on that...

 

[Snecho]

Not really-- I own many & it is clear that some '300' hosts are made better.
IMHO any laser that uses 18650s is a better choice than any that do not. (coz they are the best deal-at either low cost or free)-- used 18650s are inside most large laptop PCs and new if you buy an unused batt packs (ebay)---which lately have become very cheap coz the large/heavy laptops are being replaced by smaller and lighter 'portable' PCs . I have been meaning to do a tut on this...

PC repair shops will give them to you BTW.
IF you go that way---take your time until you know how to harvest w/o damage to the batts or more so to your fingers....you can get cut or shocked...trust me on that...

I think he was talking about how all the keys were the same.