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As you all may know, Ebay over the last year has specifically started to limit laser pointer sales over 5mw as sales of high powered laser pointers are illegal.
Now I posted a Kryton Barrel on ebay without a laser diode or battery. Just an aluminum host. exactly like this
Ebay has now pulled my auction stating first:
You recently listed the following auction-style listing:
220357537541 - Laser barrel high power laser pointer host / kit
Unfortunately, we had to remove your listing because the following information violates our policy:
Hand held lasers with an output greater than 5mw. Hazardous or dangerous goods (such as explosives, radioactive materials, flammable gases, liquids and solids, and toxic substances) may pose a danger to health, safety, or property while being transported.
We notified members who placed bids on the item that the listing has been canceled.
The sale and transportation of hazardous materials, including explosive and radioactive materials, toxic substances, and so forth, is heavily regulated by federal and state law. For this reason, listings for these items on eBay are severely restricted. For more information on this eBay policy, please visit:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/hazardous-materials.html
Please note: violation of this or other eBay policies may result in forfeit of eBay fees on cancelled listings, limits on account privileges and account suspension.
You can review our list of prohibited and restricted items here:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/items-ov.html
Your listing(s) may be eligible for relisting through My eBay. If your listing is eligible, you will see the listing in your Unsold Items page within My eBay. Listings that are not eligible for relisting will not be visible in the Unsold Items page.
To relist your item, sign in to eBay, go to My eBay to your Unsold items, and select the item that was canceled -- it's highlighted with a yellow banner. Before relisting, please make any changes necessary to ensure that your revised listing is in compliance with the law and eBay policies. You might want to check your other listings for similar violations as well.
Thanks for your understanding.
Sincerely,
eBay Trust and Safety team
Why eBay may remove your listing:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/questions/listing-ended.html
H5171
OK, so this is not an item over 5mw so there shouldn't be an issue with hazardous. So I emailed them back indicated as such.
Here is their response.
Dear Ken,
Thank you for writing eBay in regards to your concern.
Listing of hand held lasers with an output of more than 5MW are
generally not permitted on eBay. The only exceptions to this policy are
club/disco/"rave" type lasers, which may generally be listed, even if
their output is greater than 5MW.
To protect the safety and security of all eBay members, sellers are not
permitted to list information or equipment that encourages illegal
activity.
For more information on the eBay Encouraging Illegal Activity policy,
please go to:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/encouraging-illegal-activity.html
If you need further assistance, please don't hesitate to reply to this
email and let us know.
Sincerely,
name left out on purpose
eBay Customer Support
I indicated that owning an aluminum barrel is not encouraging illegal activities. Nor is building your own laser illegal.
Just wanted to share the BS on Ebay.
So it would appear that making heatsinks or selling laser diodes, or hosts, is condoning an illegal activity. even though nowhere on the FDA's website does it say that making lasers for your own personal use is illegal.
Ok had to update the most recent replies to my auction that was pulled.
Dear Ken,
Thank you for writing eBay in regard to your item being taken down
Ken, your item was taken down because listing of hand held lasers with
an output of more than 5MW are generally not permitted on eBay. The only
exceptions to this policy are club/disco/"rave" type lasers, which may
generally be listed, even if their output is greater than 5MW.
I hope this will help you, Ken
I understand your frustration regarding this matter and apologize for
the inconvenience it caused you.
Sincerely,
I replied again that it is NOT A LASER.
they replied with this:
Dear Ken,
Thank you for writing eBay in regard to the listing which was removed.
We appreciate your clarification. It appears the item does comply with
US policy. However, the listing was offered worldwide. You may not be
aware, however, the United Kingdom and Australia have very strict
regulations related to laser pointer devices. No part of a laser pointer
device is permitted in the UK or Australia.
Please feel free to relist the item. However, please do not offer
shipping to any area which includes the UK or Australia.
If you need further assistance, please don't hesitate to reply to this
email and let us know.
Sincerely,
Now I posted a Kryton Barrel on ebay without a laser diode or battery. Just an aluminum host. exactly like this
Ebay has now pulled my auction stating first:
You recently listed the following auction-style listing:
220357537541 - Laser barrel high power laser pointer host / kit
Unfortunately, we had to remove your listing because the following information violates our policy:
Hand held lasers with an output greater than 5mw. Hazardous or dangerous goods (such as explosives, radioactive materials, flammable gases, liquids and solids, and toxic substances) may pose a danger to health, safety, or property while being transported.
We notified members who placed bids on the item that the listing has been canceled.
The sale and transportation of hazardous materials, including explosive and radioactive materials, toxic substances, and so forth, is heavily regulated by federal and state law. For this reason, listings for these items on eBay are severely restricted. For more information on this eBay policy, please visit:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/hazardous-materials.html
Please note: violation of this or other eBay policies may result in forfeit of eBay fees on cancelled listings, limits on account privileges and account suspension.
You can review our list of prohibited and restricted items here:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/items-ov.html
Your listing(s) may be eligible for relisting through My eBay. If your listing is eligible, you will see the listing in your Unsold Items page within My eBay. Listings that are not eligible for relisting will not be visible in the Unsold Items page.
To relist your item, sign in to eBay, go to My eBay to your Unsold items, and select the item that was canceled -- it's highlighted with a yellow banner. Before relisting, please make any changes necessary to ensure that your revised listing is in compliance with the law and eBay policies. You might want to check your other listings for similar violations as well.
Thanks for your understanding.
Sincerely,
eBay Trust and Safety team
Why eBay may remove your listing:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/questions/listing-ended.html
H5171
OK, so this is not an item over 5mw so there shouldn't be an issue with hazardous. So I emailed them back indicated as such.
Here is their response.
Dear Ken,
Thank you for writing eBay in regards to your concern.
Listing of hand held lasers with an output of more than 5MW are
generally not permitted on eBay. The only exceptions to this policy are
club/disco/"rave" type lasers, which may generally be listed, even if
their output is greater than 5MW.
To protect the safety and security of all eBay members, sellers are not
permitted to list information or equipment that encourages illegal
activity.
For more information on the eBay Encouraging Illegal Activity policy,
please go to:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/encouraging-illegal-activity.html
If you need further assistance, please don't hesitate to reply to this
email and let us know.
Sincerely,
name left out on purpose
eBay Customer Support
I indicated that owning an aluminum barrel is not encouraging illegal activities. Nor is building your own laser illegal.
Just wanted to share the BS on Ebay.
So it would appear that making heatsinks or selling laser diodes, or hosts, is condoning an illegal activity. even though nowhere on the FDA's website does it say that making lasers for your own personal use is illegal.
Ok had to update the most recent replies to my auction that was pulled.
Dear Ken,
Thank you for writing eBay in regard to your item being taken down
Ken, your item was taken down because listing of hand held lasers with
an output of more than 5MW are generally not permitted on eBay. The only
exceptions to this policy are club/disco/"rave" type lasers, which may
generally be listed, even if their output is greater than 5MW.
I hope this will help you, Ken
I understand your frustration regarding this matter and apologize for
the inconvenience it caused you.
Sincerely,
I replied again that it is NOT A LASER.
they replied with this:
Dear Ken,
Thank you for writing eBay in regard to the listing which was removed.
We appreciate your clarification. It appears the item does comply with
US policy. However, the listing was offered worldwide. You may not be
aware, however, the United Kingdom and Australia have very strict
regulations related to laser pointer devices. No part of a laser pointer
device is permitted in the UK or Australia.
Please feel free to relist the item. However, please do not offer
shipping to any area which includes the UK or Australia.
If you need further assistance, please don't hesitate to reply to this
email and let us know.
Sincerely,