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Kiyoukan...






I brought this up a while back and got shut down for bringing it up. But when I first joined here, his thread for 1W 445 lasers was right there at the top of the b/s/t section right beside the good sir yobresals. Luckily I was smart enough to read the thread and saw that kiyoukan owed like 20 some plus people a laser, money, or both. And I luckily said screw that and bought from yob.

But when I talked about that thread in another thread I started getting flak for talking bad about kiyoukan. I don't know what he's done so good, every time I see something about him it's negative. Has he ever made any good transactions?

I was going to order a set of the correction optics but would never in my life send money to his PayPal.

And borgqueen you sound like an immature brat whining about Jerry tryin to help educate you? Learn to listen and take advice.... He simply made a statement that was intended to help your future PayPal dealings and you said shit on him. Grow up...
 
Kiyoukan has contributed to the forum with his ST-driver.
I bought some ST-drivers from him and the transaction took a long period to finish. He was "disappeared" during the deal. In the end I got my drivers but I still got a bad feeling about it.
 
Jake, i would accept that comment if it it wasnt between jerry and me. I dont take advice or help from him. If i had a choice he could't contribute on my topics anymore.
Not going futher into that because i want to stay ontopic about kiyou.
Thx Jake and blord for some extra history.
 
Why don't you just plonk Jerry if you don't want to read his replies? Just click on this link to do it.

Anyway, Jerry is free to make comments on your replies or any other just like any one of us. Often they're spot on, even if he sometimes delivers it in a manner that turns people off. On the other hand. sometimes when I read threads/replies you've written you're less than willing to consider advice especially when you're harboring some major illusions about the subject involved. Just because you don't want to hear something doesn't mean it's not correct.
 
Spot on? Yes sometimes but he craps out useless info too. He also likes provoking flamewars, pissing people off and getting me banned(yes really he seeks to do this with me personally)
I bet he knows alot more then me on photonic subjects but he's a asshole and thats why i hate him.
I already have him on my ignore list. But in my own topics i have to read his replies with the manual "show reply" button because he bashes my topics and i want to defend myself in that even if its not needed.
He also likes ruinin my sales for fun.

And im not that selfish. Sometimes when i dont like a answer i try to go into a side street. Searh for a half working solution that goes more my way.
 
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Spot on? Yes sometimes but he craps out useless info too. He also likes provoking flamewars, pissing people off and getting me banned(yes really he seeks to do this with me personally)
I bet he knows alot more then me on photonic subjects but he's a asshole and thats why i hate him.
I already have him on my ignore list. But in my own topics i have to read his replies with the manual "show reply" button because he bashes my topics.
He also likes ruinin my sales for fun.
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Reported for blatant childishTROLLING....:tsk:


Jerry


You can contact us at any time on our Website: J.BAUER Electronics
 
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He's always been super solid with me, takes a while at times but he ends up coming through. Hell, he drove across the border to complete our transaction. <shrug>
 
Hmmmmmeh i hope that "while" ends soon...constantly leaving and then coming back...i hope that doesnt chance into "not coming back".
Anyway thanks for your experience.
 
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Spot on? Yes sometimes but he craps out useless info too. He also likes provoking flamewars, pissing people off and getting me banned(yes really he seeks to do this with me personally)
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The only person that causes the ban is yourself. Maybe you're just easy to troll, or maybe you're just very defensive about things. Neither is a good thing on the Internet.

I see Jerry talking like he does to everybody and yet we don't see Jerry's "Midas Touch" turning everyone else into a ban. Yeah, he can rub people the wrong way, and I can see that in many of his responses, but it is really up to the reader to not overreact to a comment and be banned as a result.

I already have him on my ignore list. But in my own topics i have to read his replies with the manual "show reply" button because he bashes my topics and i want to defend myself in that even if its not needed.
He also likes ruinin my sales for fun.
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I don't think you understand this whole "plonking" concept if you're manually showing his replies.

Also, you don't need to defend yourself; though as you said, I guess you want to. That kind of reactive behavior is probably why you're causing your own bans.

And im not that selfish. Sometimes when i dont like a answer i try to go into a side street. Searh for a half working solution that goes more my way.
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Why do you ask the question if you're just looking for your preconceived answer? Is it just validation you're looking for? Ask a question seeking knowledge, not validation.
 
I know i dont -need- to defend and explain myself to any of you but i do want. Im not causing any ban to myself. What rule am i breaking?
Yeah im probaly easy to troll.
Lets get on topic.
 
You've gotta stop making insults such as the previous reply about Jerry in this thread. Just avoiding the name-calling alone would probably prevent most of the bans. Jerry can and does report threads, and he's well within his rights too. The best method for you to avoid drawing a ban is to just ignore the responses and not reply at all. If you are going to reply, stay calm and in control, because getting riled up over someone else's reply just plays into their hands. Apply this to all your interactions in life.
 
I am very pissed off, I had a lot typed in and a slip of my fingers on this little laptop and its all gone.. for the 2nd time, earlier i accidently closed the wrong tab!

no explanations, do a heavy search on kiyo and you will find lies and contradictions
@badger, good idea, neg rep immediately everybody
@panther, did you take notice of what kind of car he drove and its plate numbers?

a google search on: "kiyoukan scam" brought me to this thread here that i did not know existed

from now on I either do my long rants within notepad or add little tidbits at a time, these losses in my typing really piss me off and if it wasnt for that asshole I..... :(

damnit, this is a freshly reformated/reinstalled OS computer, where before on another computer (The crashed one) I had a plugin that may had rescued me from my loss of typing - it would bring back recently closed windows.

his ST Drive ordeal was to be escused off as:


11-30-2011, 02:12
kiyoukan
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Default Re: Hey Kiyoukan, umm you OK?

The drivers are still all here sitting in their jew case.
see link 1
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-...AAAAAAAG8/ruXehL4SJpw/s800/20111130023540.jpg

For a long story short.
I at first had to delay shipment due to helping a friend of mine move into his new apt after there was a falling out at his old place.
Then shortly after that he about a day or 2 he got in a fatal car accident after leaving my house on his way to his apartment.
http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/news/ronnie_dahl/another-deadly-accident-on-the-lodge

EDIT: THIS LINK NO LONGER WORKS, i found this: Clip Syndicate Video: NewstoWatch.com where a 22yo was killed, who alledgedly is the guy who left his place.. he said to me in chat that he did not communicate with none of us as to not have investigators coming to us for evidence... yeah BS... If you are thinking i am stepping beyond personal confidentiality then realize that it has been reported that he was on/off skype two days ago and is ignoring messages to him... his PL theft constitutes a felony... /EDIT

So i spent the weekend keeping my mind busy with things that didn't bring his memory up, Then the week after i had to help his parents move all his stuff out of his apartment and then i had to attend the viewing and ceremony.
So i spent that week dealing with what i had to, to be okay.
I do feel bad in the way i dealt with all of the things this past month, but at the time it all seemed good.
Kinda feel like giant piece of shit now tho.
I dont mind if someone wants to sell these.
I made them to use in my own builds and projects and they worked so well from my initial testing that others wanted them, so i started selling them.
I am going to get these out soon.


Quote Originally Posted by LaserCo
Hey we are wondering about you over at LPF, what happened to that great driver project you were spending your time on?

Can we get our drivers yet?
One guy even gave up on the same project hisself cause you had started it before him and he wants to open all his research into the public!
Speak Up

Peace,
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look him up on ebay, in the past few months he has purchased 3 sets of cambridge 6210's i think they were.

during his ST Drive dissapearance he hid in our LPF chatroom under some odd *mlp* nickname... it goes on and on with this dude.
 
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