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JETLASERS PGL-III-M Laser Review! UPDATE: Videos added!

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This is the review for the upgraded version of the CNI PGL-III-M, that I did for JETLASERS

Link to the laser LINK HERE!

First off I would like to say, this is an unbiased review and I will only give factual, observed information about this company and MY experience with them.

I was given the opportunity to review JETLASERS handheld Lasers D and CE certified 190-540nm OD 4+ goggles.

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In my eyes this laser is very special, this laser is a CNI made laser in an upgraded host. JETLASERS have taken a high quality laser direct from the manufacturer and added much desirable added features to an amazing host.

One of the things JETLASERS have done with this host is to waterproof it, which is a great thing. The waterproofing reaches IPX-5 waterproof standards, which by definition means it has successfully passed an international standards test in which, water is projected by a nozzle against the host from any direction, and the test has concluded that the water shall have no harmful effects. JETLASERS have informed customers that the host was designed to work well in rainy or humid conditions though it was not designed for diving (For Diving, please check Handheld A, B, E. ) .

The way JETLASERS have waterproofed this host is by using high quality rubber o-rings, sometimes up to 4 in one o-ring groove. This provides a seal and sort of barrier to keep water and contaminants out. Which can be seen in the picture of the laser break down, below.

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JETLASERS have also redesigned the laser head and equipped it with a focusable lens mechanism, so that the beam diameter can be easily adjusted, by screwing the top portion of the host. The focusing portion of the laser head can be seen below.

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As you can see there are two large o-rings on the focusing assembly, they are pressed into grooves that have been machined into the aluminium. The screw threads of the laser head are amazingly smooth and no crunching, hard spots or wobble were detected.

The optics assembly sits inside of an aluminium tube that is press fit inside the focusing assembly. The glass of these optics look to be AR coated, and reflect back a dark purple colour <update needed on type of optics used> The purple tinge could not be captured by my camera, but you can see a close up, of the face of the laser and the glass front lens in the picture below.

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The laser itself, as I said comes direct from CNI. The laser is rated on the CNI website with the following data:

Transverse mode: TEM00
Operating mode: CW
Beam divergence, full angle (mrad): <1. 5
Beam diameter at the aperture (mm): ~1. 5
Range in darkness (m): 2000~5000
Power supply 1דNo. 18650” Li batteries
Expected lifetime (hours) 5000

Link to PDF for specs from CNI LINK HERE!

I have run my own tests on this test unit and have concluded my own results as can be seen below.

Peak output power: 105mw (50mw version tested)
Average output power: 76mw (output averaged after 30seconds of use, tested 10 times, 5 from cold start, 5 while warm… average output 76mw)
Observed divergence: 1.279mRad (1.5mm at 1m and diverge to 13.02mm at 10m, giving 1.279mRad)
Beam diameter at aperture: 1.33mm
Current draw: Steady 540ma
Estimated battery life: 3.62 hours

*Note all measurements were measured with calibrated digital callipers, and your results may vary.

The internals of the laser are all CNI, so as far as I can tell the laser should be IR filtered. JETLASERS have claimed it to be IR filtered, and I have preformed a quick test to verify those claims and it was true. The laser is IR filtered.

The inside of the head has a large brass ring to stop the focusing assembly from screw down into the host too far. Below this there is a large aluminium disk which seems to house the optics (probably the IR filter). Since it is positioned with the use of an optics screwdriver it was glued in place, with a small amount of white glue, similar to what they use in prebuilt red keychain lasers, to support the PCB board. There are two images below depicting everything I just spoke about.

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The look of the laser is quite similar to the Spartan 447nm laser, also produced by CNI. What differs between the two is that the Spartan has two palm grip pads, where as the JETLASER upgraded host has the one grip pad (easy way to tell the difference), as well as the added features mentioned above.

The laser is coated in an anti-skid layer on an aircraft grade Aluminium body. The laser is heavy and feels good to hold, and personally looks like a military grade laser and feels like it would be up for the job. A picture can be seen below depicting the laser in its assembled state.

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The end cap, just like the focusing assembly has superb threads and waterproofing. No wobble, crunching or hard spots were detected. The button is firm which I personally prefer, because of safety reasons. The positive contact point is almost flush with the base of the end cap, which I thought would be a problem, but apparently not, since I have tested it both with unprotected GTL and ultrafire 18650 batteries, with no problems at all. Picture of the end cap can be seen below.

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The only real suggestions I have with this laser is that when the focusing assembly is removed, it is quite hard to align and screw back into place. I would suggest positioning the lower o-ring (closest to the laser assembly when screwed in) further down the assembly to allow of more wobble so aligning the threads would be easier. Also I would like to see more features that CNI make available with this host, in particular adding the feature for a LED indicator and also key switch.

This is a LPM graph of the laser over a 2 min time period.

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The glasses that I have received came in a soft cover carry bag (not pictured) and a cleaning cloth.

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The goggles are rated at OD 4+ for 190-540nm and are available at JETLASERS.net as well as other laser accessories.

I did a few tests with these goggles and have concluded the following results:

85mw 532nm (JETLASERS PGL-III-M laser) was reduced to <5mw for the 1min test
65mw 405nm CNI GPL-405 was reduced to <5mw for the 1min test
>1.1W 445nm was reduced to <5mw for the 1min test at focus for metering
>1.1W 445nm was sustained at <5mw for the 1 min test at pinpoint focus, burning of the goggles did occur, but power transmissive power sustained at <5mw for the whole test.

Since my meter cannot measure anything with high enough resolution above 1W and less then 5mw, the most I can say is these goggles are they relatively safe for use with a maximum of 1.1W of 445nm light. I feel the rating of OD 4+ is very realistic corresponding with the test results shown above. Since no graphs are available on the JETLASERS website, conclusions about other wavelengths are unable to be made. My personal opinion, based on the test results are that the glasses should be fine with <300mw of both 532 and 405nm. But further testing is needed.

My overall satisfaction with the company and laser can be summarised in the ratings below.

Product quality: 9/10
Customer support: 9/10
Email notifications: N/A
Packaging: 8/10 (shipping of glasses in a hard case to prevent damage should be considered)
Shipping time: 8/10 (7 days shipping, average from china)

Overall rating 8.5/10

VIDEOS ARE HERE!!

This is a quick physical review of the PGL-III-M by JETLASERS


This is the more in depth review including metering and testing the goggles on a laser power meter.


-Adrian
 
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Re: JETLASERS PGL-III-M Laser Review!

For reference, here's a photo of the inside of the head of a standard 532nm CNI PGL-III-M.

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Also, about the divergence... 1.5mm diverging 3.02mm over a 9m distance is a divergence of 0.1689mRad. Did you mean a final diameter of 30.2mm?

Great review, looks like a great laser you have there. :)

-Trevor
 
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Re: JETLASERS PGL-III-M Laser Review!

Great review! :beer:

The look of the laser is quite similar to the Spartan 447nm laser, also produced by CNI. What differs between the two is that the Spartan has two palm grip pads, where as the JETLASER upgraded host has the one grip pad (easy way to tell the difference), as well as the added features mentioned above.

AFAIK all 447 and 532nm Spartans have an elongated head section, and have only one grip running down the body.

Only the 473nm (and any other custom jobs such as the 671nm PGL-III-M) have the shorter head and two grip bands.

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Also I would like to see more features that CNI make available with this host, in particular adding the feature for a LED indicator and also key switch.

You mean like this?

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I'm sure Trevor can tell you all about this thing.
 
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Re: JETLASERS PGL-III-M Laser Review!

For reference, here's a photo of the inside of the head of a standard 532nm CNI PGL-III-M.

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Also, about the divergence... 1.5mm diverging 3.02mm over a 9m distance is a divergence of 0.1689mRad. Did you mean a final diameter of 30.2mm?

Great review, looks like a great laser you have there. :)

-Trevor

Great pick up... I meant 13.02 couldn't read my own writing... I'll run it through the programs and change the mRad value in OP! :thanks:

Great review! :beer:



AFAIK all 447 and 532nm Spartans have an elongated head section, and have only one grip running down the body.

Only the 473nm (and any other custom jobs such as the 671nm PGL-III-M) have the shorter head and two grip bands.

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You mean like this?

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I'm sure Trevor can tell you all about this thing.

Dragon lasers Spartan has the two palm grips and in every other way "looks" the same..

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Yes CNI sells the same host with LED indicator and key switch options. It would be nice to see the same on the JETLASERS host.
 
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Nice review, but I'd only want those features if they got rid of the delay.
 
Re: JETLASERS PGL-III-M Laser Review!

Great pick up... I meant 13.02 couldn't read my own writing... I'll run it through the programs and change the mRad value in OP! :thanks:



Dragon lasers Spartan has the two palm grips and in every other way "looks" the same..

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Yes CNI sells the same host with LED indicator and key switch options. It would be nice to see the same on the JETLASERS host.

DL uses the same picture for all their Spartan and Hulk lines.

All 447 and 532 Spartans have the single grip band on the body, along with an elongated head to provide better heatsinking.
 
Re: JETLASERS PGL-III-M Laser Review!

Yes CNI sells the same host with LED indicator and key switch options. It would be nice to see the same on the JETLASERS host.

As long as the momentary switch doesn't also have the 5s FDA delay. That sucked, and I had it replaced. Here's the replacement 18650 532nm standard version exploded, to complement the picture posted by goninanbl00d:

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No scale, but the 18650 should give you a pretty good idea. I can't entirely tell if the 447nm CR2 version has the same dimensions or not.

-Trevor
 
Re: JETLASERS PGL-III-M Laser Review!

Hi Bobhaha, Thanks a lot for writing such a detailed review for this focusable green laser. You did a more careful study than we did on this laser.

Cni makes great M lasers while we only add some ornaments, such as focusable features, to make it a more user-friendly laser pointer. What we did try to do is, if not to improve the beam divergence and quality, at least not to degrade its original features.

As far as the outer host is concerned, this laser is based upon the very previous version of PL-M green lasers(I don't know if it's all same to Spartan). I guess it may be a little different from the newer version for 447nm lasers since we didnot get our hands on Cni's 447nm M laser yet.

After selling out a few models in stock, we might not provide it any more coz we would rather design a new aluminium model with good specs and focusable/waterproof features. They would be at least much more cost-effective than this upgraded version model. So just feel free to PM me if you need to buy this upgraded model in 50mw, 100mw or 200mw version.

Thanks a lot, again!
Wish all friends here a great week!:wave:
 
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Re: JETLASERS PGL-III-M Laser Review!

@ bobhaha very nicely detailed review, I'd like to see about the same thing come out as a 445/447nm using the 18650 battery, I have never been much of a fan of CR123A's. :thanks:
 
Re: JETLASERS PGL-III-M Laser Review!

I need to find out from Frank about these focusable heads and getting some to work with the Spartan.
 
Re: JETLASERS PGL-III-M Laser Review!

GREAT REVIEW!!!! i purchased a titanium 150mw (focasable/waterproof) unit from jetlasers and im totally pleased with it.....jetlasers is for sure top quality and as far as output it blowed me away when it peaked at 260mw then settled around 200mw...awesome laser!!!!!!!!!! reviewing soon....
 
Re: JETLASERS PGL-III-M Laser Review!

Nice review, I agree with the others that you´ve done a good job :)
I´m looking forward to your video + Patrick´s review!
 
Re: JETLASERS PGL-III-M Laser Review!

UPDATE: Videos finally added to the review... more to come soon!!


This is a quick physical review of the PGL-III-M by JETLASERS


This is the more in depth review including metering and testing the goggles on a laser power meter.
 
Hey Adrian, nice review

how much is that greenie anyway?

Have a good week :)

*W00T 100th post :D
 
UPDATE: Added LPM graph of the JETLASERS PGL-III-M

LPM graph of the laser over a 2 min time period.

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