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FrozenGate by Avery

Heads up re: CanadaPost - full lockout / shutdown of operations tomorrow.






Really glad you let us know... I do hope a good resolution is soon here! -Glenn
 
^^^They could be delayed....

The spoiled Canada Post brats should get back to work.... IMO
It is an essential service that I and many Canadians depend
on to put food on the table...
What gives them the right to play in my pockets....

If they don't like their ~$20.00/hr starting price job they
should look for another job and let someone that really
needs the $$$ to do it properly for them..

These Postal workers are no better than terrorists holding
up the flow of business and peoples livelihoods. They might
as well be holding a gun to our heads preventing us from
doing business...

There are hundreds of thousands of qualified unemployed
Canadian workers that would jump on those jobs for LESS
money...


Jerry
 
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lasersbee said:
^^^They could be delayed....

The spoiled Canada Post brats should get back to work.... IMO
It is an essential service that I and many Canadians depend
on to put food on the table...
What gives them the right to play in my pockets....



Jerry
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Very true.

In the UK , its illegal for Police to go on strike. It should be this way for ALL essential services. Make people sign the clause when they take the job, if they dont like it, show them the door.
 
lasersbee said:
^^^They could be delayed....

The spoiled Canada Post brats should get back to work.... IMO
It is an essential service that I and many Canadians depend
on to put food on the table...
What gives them the right to play in my pockets....



Jerry
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Very true.

In the UK , its illegal for Police to go on strike. It should be this way for ALL essential services. Make people sign the clause when they take the job, if they dont like it, show them the door, there will be 100 people behind them who will sign it and happily take the job.
 
lasersbee said:
^^^They could be delayed....

The spoiled Canada Post brats should get back to work.... IMO
It is an essential service that I and many Canadians depend
on to put food on the table...
What gives them the right to play in my pockets....

If they don't like their ~$20.00/hr starting price job they
should look for another job and let someone that really
needs the $$$ to do it properly for them..

These Postal workers are no better than terrorists holding
up the flow of business and peoples livelihoods. They might
as well be holding a gun to our heads preventing us from
doing business...

There are hundreds of thousands of qualified unemployed
Canadian workers that would jump on those jobs for LESS
money...
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Could not agree more.

All they're accomplishing here, is raising Canadians' awareness of how much less relevant they are today versus 14 years ago when they went on strike last.

Don't get me wrong, this strike is annoying me, but I use the mail 5x more than 99% of the people I know. Even still, if the full strike goes on for more than a few days, it'll just give me the motivation necessary to go look into cheap (and probably better) shipping options from FedEx. The challenge for CanadaPost, is that once they push people to look into other options like couriers and electronic alternatives for document mail, those people are much less likely to go back to postal mail when the strike ends. That's a big loss for CanadaPost workers.
 
Canada Post should be deemed an essential service and prohibited from going on strike, but as it's been pointed out they are not as essential today as they once were.

If Canadians do realize there are alternatives to using traditonal mail a lot of those overpaid postal jobs are going to dissapear.

Rhd : if you find a cheap carrier, let me know. Like you, I send and receive lots of packages.
 
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Crap, got a package en route to someone. Hope this gets resolved quickly for those who have more packages in the system than me.

-Trevor
 
v33 said:
Rhd : if you find a cheap carrier, let me know. Like you, I send and receive lots of packages.
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Trevor said:
Crap, got a package en route to someone. Hope this gets resolved quickly for those who have more packages in the system than me.
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Luckily, I don't see this lasting too long now that CanadaPost has called a full lockout of employees.

CanadaPost was offering a 1.9% raise per year for four years, the union wanted 3.4% now and then 2.85% each year after. That's about 1 or 1.5% difference.

I would doubt that a lot of postal workers are in a position to sit on the picket line not getting paid, over a difference of 1% of their yearly salary.
 
Yeah... at 40hrs a week @ $20.00/hr that is:
(not considering Taxes/Dues/Other deductions)
Weekly = $800.00
Yearly = $41600.00
1% = $416.00

If they are on Strike for 2 days they are already
loosing more than they would gain for that 1%.

Maybe someone should sit down with the moronic
greedy brats and teach them some math...:whistle:


Jerry
 
As a union worker myself (go ahead and flame if you feel the urge since ur jealous, think of their end for a second, in terms of they have a certain benefit lets say a pension (since canada has that wacky goverment health care and using pay rate/ health care wouldn't make the point), the goverment is losing money and fast and not just because of the strikes but because most governments kno nothing about economic issues other then what their investment agent tells them, anyway the governement is losing money and wants to cut the workers pension thats like saying, "We're losing too much money because we can't manage properly so you're gonna have to work the rest of your life, and preventing younger folks from getting a job."

Now is it crappy that they are goin on strike and in these uncertain economic times, and holding up the rest of canada and posible other ccountrys, yes, but at the same time they are trying to prevent the government from "aligning" the postal business with the private sectors income, when most of the income in the private sector is at best $12/hr.

Think of it also as the politicians are corrupt we all know it, and if they had it their way we all would 50% income tax and all governement employees except the politicians would get paid $10/hr, with no retirement, no benefits, and it would be like china, except for a lower population.
 
Jealous? I don't know your particular situation but I don't feel particularly envious of my friends who were unionized auto workers making $35/hr who no longer have jobs and can't find work that pays anywhere near what they once made.

Now the folks who worked a skilled trade are doing ok (those that were willing to move to find work) but the ones that turned a bolt for 70 grand a year because the union made sure they made as much as someone with a 4 year degree are living a much less glamourous lifestyle these days.

Ya, real jealous.
 
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Kmor2004 said:
As a union worker myself (go ahead and flame if you feel the urge since ur jealous, think of their end for a second, in terms of they have a certain benefit lets say a pension (since canada has that wacky goverment health care and using pay rate/ health care wouldn't make the point), the goverment is losing money and fast and not just because of the strikes but because most governments kno nothing about economic issues other then what their investment agent tells them, anyway the governement is losing money and wants to cut the workers pension thats like saying, "We're losing too much money because we can't manage properly so you're gonna have to work the rest of your life, and preventing younger folks from getting a job."

Now is it crappy that they are goin on strike and in these uncertain economic times, and holding up the rest of canada and posible other ccountrys, yes, but at the same time they are trying to prevent the government from "aligning" the postal business with the private sectors income, when most of the income in the private sector is at best $12/hr.

Think of it also as the politicians are corrupt we all know it, and if they had it their way we all would 50% income tax and all governement employees except the politicians would get paid $10/hr, with no retirement, no benefits, and it would be like china, except for a lower population.
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Are you out of your F$%king mind...:thinking:
The STARTING SALARY for Canada Post workers is ~$20.00...
And all you need to do that starting job is have the coordination
skills of a chimpanzee... as far as I'm concerned...
How hard is it to put a letter into a sorting box and later into
a mail box... Oh and you need to be able read the address...:eg:

If you don't like your job get another one or go into business
for your self.. or is that too much trouble for you to accomplish.

Today's Union workers are whiny bunch of greedy brats that
can't see the real bottom line.
They are a bunch of spoiled whining girls that want it now at
any cost as long as they get it...

All I hear is ME.. ME..ME..ME... from Union members and I'm fed
up of it...

I work for me... I wipe my own A$$... I don't have a big pension
like the Union workers... and I don't even whine about it....

Pull up your pants.... STOP WHINING and get another job like
anyone with any common sense would do... rather than holding
out your hands once again demanding more.... and hurting other
more deserving members of the un-Unionized Canadian work force..


Jerry
 
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Labor unions suck. Plain and simple. It's an idea that's time has passed. 70 years or so ago before federal labor regulations, yes they were needed to look out for workers rights since employers would screw employees every chance they could to increase profits. Now there are federal laws (in the US) that do what the unions were originally created to do. These days the only real purpose of unions is artificially increased salaries, making union leaders wealthy, and decreasing the competitiveness of US industry compared to the rest of the world.. asia in particular. Don't you find it odd that asian imported vehicles, etc, are cheaper than US made versions.. even AFTER freight and import tariffs?
 
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Jealous. lol. Unions were the fall of the american auto industry. they take, ask for more, bully... even when there is nothing to give. Any services that are deemed essential should not have unions.

michael.
 
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