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FS: Star Trek Phaser 'Hot' Option! Or, Individual Parts...

Just recently received Jayrobs Hot Phaser Kit and love it! Ive been wanting a star trek phaser since i was old enough to watch tv, and now ive finally got one :) Its very professional work and well worth its price. heres a few pics and a short video.

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Clicking the picture below will play a short video of my phaser in action, without smoke, during the day in my hallway. My cat frequently hides in the towel cabinet where i was aiming, so i checked it out before firing :)

 





Glad you like the kit! :)

Thanks for posting back with pics and video! :beer:
 
Re: FS: Star Trek Phaser Parts! 'Hot' Option Available! Or, Individual Parts...

jayrob said:
Yes he put a weak PS3 diode in one long before I did this modification.

But you can't honestly compare that with my build...

His has the sound disabled, and no heatsink. (of course at only about 15mW's, he probably doesn't need a heatsink)

Also, no way to focus. You should take a close at my tutorial thread to see all of the modifications that I did in order to fit a good size heatsink, keep the sound, and the trickiest part... make it focusable!
http://laserpointerforums.com/f51/tutorial-12x-star-trek-phaser-mod-46886.html

No comparison!
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LOL, and now he's hosting a laser giveaway stating that his laser is valued as $750!!!!!! Yeah right!!! Here's a youtube link
Edit: I've done the math, and your build has 94x the price to performance ratio as kipkay's.(470mw yours/15mw his)times($750 his/$250 yours) = 94!!! XD This just shows how much of a sham kipkay is. Props for the nice work as always Jayrob. :P
 
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Jay, I've always wanted this build and as soon as I get paid by my next freelance gig I'll be ordering it. Ironically, the job is a Star Trek gig! I used to work on Voyager and DS9 as a visual effects artist and still do freelance gigs providing CGI of the space ships for licensed projects...

Anyway, I was wondering, since you started doing this two years ago, has anything changed in the world of lasers that would allow for an even more powerful phaser than before? Like everyone, I simply want the brightest beam money can buy :-)

Thanks!
 
MojoLA said:
Jay, I've always wanted this build and as soon as I get paid by my next freelance gig I'll be ordering it. Ironically, the job is a Star Trek gig! I used to work on Voyager and DS9 as a visual effects artist and still do freelance gigs providing CGI of the space ships for licensed projects...

Anyway, I was wondering, since you started doing this two years ago, has anything changed in the world of lasers that would allow for an even more powerful phaser than before? Like everyone, I simply want the brightest beam money can buy :-)

Thanks!
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Well you have to remember that were still limited to the size and capacity of the battery supply on this mod...

I still like the normal 445 set up with 2 X 14500 cells in parallel to double capacity:
http://laserpointerforums.com/f42/1-5-amp-445nm-phaser-build-62371.html



Only now it will have a modified MicroBoost driver thermal glued to a copper heatsink for the driver. (because FlexDrives are out of stock)

It's that or you can also go with an X-Boost driver. I have those too... I think the X-Boost by lazeerer may be best.

The other choice is an X-Drive buck driver with the two cells in series. But I think it may be a little better battery capacity using the boost drive with batteries in parallel...
 
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Thanks for the reply. Can you explain how the x-boost driver differs from what you normally use? In practical terms...

And I'm not very worried about battery life. This isn't like a normal laser that I might leave on for a while. The phaser is more like short bursts now and then to show my friends :-)

Honestly if it even had 5 or 10 mins runtime on a charge I could see it lasting for weeks...
 
MojoLA said:
Thanks for the reply. Can you explain how the x-boost driver differs from what you normally use? In practical terms...

And I'm not very worried about battery life. This isn't like a normal laser that I might leave on for a while. The phaser is more like short bursts now and then to show my friends :-)

Honestly if it even had 5 or 10 mins runtime on a charge I could see it lasting for weeks...
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The X-Boost is a new driver designed and made by lazeerer. (a trusted member here at LPF)

I have not tested or compared efficiency of this new driver vs the MicroBoost, but I know that he does very good work.

I would venture his driver is just as good if not better than the MicroBoost.

But I do have MicroBoost drivers as well.

With this set up, at 1.5 Amps setting, the driver will be drawing over 2 Amps from the supply.

2 X AW 14500 protected cells in parallel will be about 1500mAh's capacity.

This is only a rough estimate, because with a boost driver, the current draw from the battery supply will actually raise as the batteries drain and the voltage supply drops.

But you can figure that you will have around 45 minutes between charges... :cool:
 
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There are moments I feel like I was born yesterday... And this is one of them.

Jay, pretend for a moment that I'm only a little more knowledgable about lasers than the average German Shepherd. I understand wavelengths and MW but I have no idea how an X-boost driver giving you 1500 mAh capacity translates to beam power.

Does this mean a Phaser with this setup would have a more powerful beam than the Phasers you've been usually making?

Just pretend all I would understand is something like "if we use the X-boost driver it will go from a 500mw beam to a 750mw beam" or something along those lines.

I know that someone of your expertise talking to me is like trying to explain the internal combustion engine to a cow... But try :-)

Also, in your experience, how strong does a 405nm laser have to be before it is clearly visible, even in ambient lighting?

My 1W arctic's 445nm blue beam is nice, but I assume an equally powered 405nm would have a less visible beam (but be a much better burner).

The violet color of 405mm is closer to what we saw on Star Trek, and I imagine even a 300 or 400mw beam would pop balloons from 100' away, but admittedly, the coolest thing about having a "real" phaser is being able to see the beam (without smoke :-)

So, to a layman like me, if I want a clearly visible beam it means either getting a 405nm in as strong a wattage as humanly possible, or using a different wavelength.

445nm will be brighter, but it won't do as much "damage" and it's not as screen accurate as the color of 405nm. This is why I was wondering if any new developments would allow for a more powerful, brighter beam than you were getting two years ago.

Honestly, I'm not so interested in burning, I can get simpler, cheaper lasers for that. But it just so happens that stronger wattages equal brighter beams!

So I wonder just how much juice can we squeeze out of a 405nm in your phaser, especially if I don't care at all about battery life.

By the way, are you a Star Trek fan? Because if you are, in addition to money I can also send you some of the cool Trek stuff I've done (like 3D lenticular posters) as a way of bribing you to come up with the brightest 405nm phaser of all time :-)
 
MojoLA said:
There are moments I feel like I was born yesterday... And this is one of them.

Jay, pretend for a moment that I'm only a little more knowledgable about lasers than the average German Shepherd. I understand wavelengths and MW but I have no idea how an X-boost driver giving you 1500 mAh capacity translates to beam power.

Does this mean a Phaser with this setup would have a more powerful beam than the Phasers you've been usually making?

Just pretend all I would understand is something like "if we use the X-boost driver it will go from a 500mw beam to a 750mw beam" or something along those lines.

I know that someone of your expertise talking to me is like trying to explain the internal combustion engine to a cow... But try :-)

Also, in your experience, how strong does a 405nm laser have to be before it is clearly visible, even in ambient lighting?

My 1W arctic's 445nm blue beam is nice, but I assume an equally powered 405nm would have a less visible beam (but be a much better burner).

The violet color of 405mm is closer to what we saw on Star Trek, and I imagine even a 300 or 400mw beam would pop balloons from 100' away, but admittedly, the coolest thing about having a "real" phaser is being able to see the beam (without smoke :-)

So, to a layman like me, if I want a clearly visible beam it means either getting a 405nm in as strong a wattage as humanly possible, or using a different wavelength.

445nm will be brighter, but it won't do as much "damage" and it's not as screen accurate as the color of 405nm. This is why I was wondering if any new developments would allow for a more powerful, brighter beam than you were getting two years ago.

Honestly, I'm not so interested in burning, I can get simpler, cheaper lasers for that. But it just so happens that stronger wattages equal brighter beams!

So I wonder just how much juice can we squeeze out of a 405nm in your phaser, especially if I don't care at all about battery life.

By the way, are you a Star Trek fan? Because if you are, in addition to money I can also send you some of the cool Trek stuff I've done (like 3D lenticular posters) as a way of bribing you to come up with the brightest 405nm phaser of all time :-)
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You have to understand that I wouldn't recommend going for the most possible power in a build like this. Simply due to battery capacity, battery ability, but mostly longevity of the diode...

I've always been a little on the side of conservative. Especially in a build like this. (I don't want to take it apart to swap out a diode)

That said, people are pushing 12X diodes to over 500mA's and getting 700 +mW's power.

See this informative list of 12X builds:
http://laserpointerforums.com/f38/12x-br-diodes-46798.html

For 405nm, 12X diode is the ticket. I still recommend maybe 450mA's for decent longevity. It will still be over 500mW's with my 405-G-1 glass lens. (class 4 laser)

But if your more into visibility of the beam in the night sky, then go for the 445 build. It will still burn very good.

There again, I recommend 1.5 Amps for this particular build for a 445 build. It will still be 1.3 Watts using even an AixiZ glass lens.

In either case, we can achieve it with the X-Boost driver, or the MicroBoost driver. Same outcome...

Going for 2 Watts or more, I would recommend a different host. Like my Maglite kit:
http://laserpointerforums.com/f64/f...exmodp3-side-button-forward-clicky-57278.html
 
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Thanks for having patience with me Jay, all has become clear. And I agree it's best to be a little conservative, the last thing I want is a REAL phaser on overload!

So basically it comes down to (approx) a 500mw 405nm beam or 1.2W 445nm?

And naturally I assume the 445nm is going to be the brighter beam.

If anyone reading this (including you, of course, Jay) has two lasers of this power (or close to it) and is willing to take a few comparison beam pictures, I'd really appreciate it!

Before I plunk down $500 I want to be as informed as possible :-)
 
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