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One of the problems with our government, at high levels, is they are so power corrupt too many people have too much on everyone else, so if someone tries to bring them to justice, they can get hit with it too. Most of them living in glass houses. I too would like to see justice done with Hillary, she shouldn't be allowed to roam free with what she has done.
 





And I want to see justice done to Trump. He has twitted himself into a position where he can't claim not to have implicated himself in illegal acts. It is still under investigation by the FBI, but the whole story hasn't come out yet. His campaign manager and members of his immediate family have been shown to have lied to Federal authorities, and have had meetings with Russians who were trying to influence the election back in 2016. Obama committed no crime, Hilary Clinton, according to Comey, didn't either. Trump and his campaign have been shown to have been in bed with the Russians during the election. That is illegal, BTW. I am patiently waiting for the whole story to come out and we shall see what Trump does then. Try to pardon members of his campaign? I'd love to see that.
 
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If the Russians did influence the election and if Hillary lost due to their involvement, good on them! At least it was constructive interference :P
 
They did. Several were indicted this week. And it was illegal. The facts of Trump's involvement have not been released to the public yet and the investigation continues to this day. The fact that Russian's colluded to try to smear Clinton while working to elect Trump is part and parcel to these indictments. How would you feel if the Chinese, or North Korea had influenced the election to make sure Clinton was elected and Trump lost?
 
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i'd feel the same way you do, but since my desire to see Hillary loose, i'm not complaining. I understand, hypocritical, I complain about corruption, but if something goes my way, smiles. Human beings! See how we are!
 
I have a feel that since Trump is aware that the media will be crawling all over him for as long as he is President. I think he will keep his nose squeaky clean all though his Presidency. I don’t buy Trumps Russian collusion for a second. It seems to be coming out it was the deep state that didn’t want Trump in office. I for one think we dodged a bullet by electing Trump. Think he’s doing a great (not perfect) job. Here’s to hoping he keeps up the fight of our freedom.
 
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BobMc said:
I have a feel that since Trump is aware that the media will be crawling all over him for as long as he is President. I think he will keep his nose squeaky clean all though his Presidency. I don’t buy Trumps Russian collusion for a second. It seems to be coming out it was the deep state that didn’t want Trump in office. I for one think we dodge a bullet by electing Trump. Think he’s doing a great (not perfect) job. Here’s to hoping he keeps up the fight of our freedom.
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Yeah... the lesser of 2 evils...
Hillary is a crook and I wouldn't trust her as
far as I could throw here...
I'm not American but I also think Trump is
doing fine for a non political guy...IMO

Jerry
 
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Fox News. The only media trying to deflect all the COLLUSION between Trump's campaign and an enemy country that illegally sought to effect our election. :crackup:

Keep watching the news outlet that is filled with perverts and rapists. I just love it.
 
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Most people in favor of this forget that the entire amendment reads, "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

On December 15, 1791, when the Second Amendment was ratified, women could not vote, people were allowed to own other people and guns had to be reloaded after every shot. The Second Amendment, as Justice Burger said, was never meant to create an individual right to own guns, but to forbid the federal government from abolishing state militias.
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That is a great point Paul! In a country such the USA, where the constitution is more than 200 years old, and in our fast progressing time one have to see the law throught the eyes of the people who made it.

I am sure the whole constitution aims for more personal freedoom and happiness of citizens. If the modern interpretation of the gun laws creates or prevents such an environment, should be the question.

Singlemode

PS: The argument that only people kill people and not guns leads to the right of owning nuclear weapons. Its not the nuclear bombs in our houses that kills people ( millions) but people. Obviously everybody has no problems with nuclear weapons beeing only in the control of the gov....
 
Human beings, troublesome lot, will we ever have peace with our own race? I doubt it.
 
Interesting to see all the protest rallies in Florida to change the gun laws there. How many children need to be killed in the name of "liberty" before common sense comes to the fore? It is a good and just question.
 
lasersbee said:
Yeah... the lesser of 2 evils...
Hillary is a crook and I wouldn't trust her as
far as I could throw here...
I'm not American but I also think Trump is
doing fine for a non political guy...IMO

Jerry
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Haaa , the “lesser of two evils” that was just about it. Before the election Hillary was a “known”(wasn’t impressed) Trump was the “unknown” (wasn’t impressed) so for me it can down to who was more pro-life, because I thought that if my vote could help save even one child’s life it was worth my vote. Since the election I am pleasantly surprised at how well Trump is doing. My prayers and best wishes go with him.
 
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There's a lot more at stake than your religious beliefs. We are talking about collusion with an enemy government. Even if you don't like for women to have a choice in how their own bodies can be used, it isn't going to change abortion rights. That was settled law 45 years ago. Likely you don't even remember the ruling of Roe vs Wade, but I do. Was in college at the time. Women who couldn't afford to have a D&C done by their gynecologists had to risk their lives in back alley abortions. It was a terrible time to be a woman before 1973.
 
To the abortion issue;

a women has the right to do what she wants with her body. The child that resides inside her womb is a total different person. Has a total different DNA pattern, making it it’s own.

But to the biggger issue;

Human life does begin at a certain time along the time line. We have decided it begins at “x.” If we are wrong, we are guilty of genocide on a global scale. And this is true whether GOD exists or not.

I could not finish, maybe you can;

The Silent Scream

https://youtu.be/gON-8PP6zgQ



Just heart breaking :cryyy:
 
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What I think most Americans are unaware of is that we lost total control of our Republic decades ago. The unelected shadow government and deep state run the show. Who are they? The shadow government had many moving parts...the beltway bandits...weapons manufacturers...you know who they are...Booze Hamilton...big CIA contractor...many others similar, Israeli and Saudi lobbies....deep state....factions of the CIA and of the 17 other member agencies of the intelligence community...(just a light sketch by the way)

Ironically, Putin understands America better than most Americans do. It was clear when he said, and I this is pretty close, I have seen administrations come and go. They come in with a new agenda wanting to make changes....until men in dark suits, like mine without the red tie, and suitcases, come in and state how things are going to be.

However, Trump is fighting all of this. I don't know how many of you are following QAnon but it looks like it is going to hit the fan....lots of indictments. We shall see.
 
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