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Anyone here take Curcumin from Turmeric? Opinions pro or con?






I don't know, Alaskan. These food supplements aren't regulated and the advantages are generally thought to exist without the necessary double blind studies that are crucial to proving a benefit. It has become a multi-billion dollar industry. I would be skeptical, but that is just me.
 
Alaskan said:
I've read Curcumin extract from Turmeric has huge health benefits, even some individuals with cancer being successfully treated with it to where all signs of the disease disappear after nothing else would work for them. Anyone here have pro or con opinions for this stuff?

Pure Curcumin 95 Natural Turmeric Extract Bulk Powder | eBay
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I found 2 that work and actually reduced inflamation among many the did nothing.

Both are expensive.

Best one is : Natural Factors Theracumin- #1 best absorbed form of curamin-- bottle says 1 or 2 caps per day--I found 4 to 6 per day had an efffect CurcuminRich? Theracurmin? - Natural Factors

Second choice: CuraMed---same thing need to take 4-6 a day not 1, not as effective as the other one but OK---first choice is best one I have found http://www.amazon.com/Terry-Naturally-CuraMed-Curcumin-Softgels/dp/B00H4GQE6M/ref=sr_1_2_s_it?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1457926540&sr=1-2&keywords=CuraMed
 
I'm always skeptical of herbal stuff even though I probably use a lot more than the average person. Really, it's only trial and error as to whether or not herbals work. Digestion and chemical uptake have a huge range of effects on this sort of stuff, so your mileage will vary. Pharmaceuticals are almost always going to be more consistent and reliable, but there's definitely merit in an herbal remedy that works.

What I can say is that turmeric seems to help my acne inflammation and digestion some. I haven't come down with cancer yet, but you might have to check back in 50 years.
 
I have taken it in the past, Doctors Best brand, it did not seem to hurt anything, burping you could taste it for a while.
 
No offence to my non-science brothers and sisters but I'd like to offer my advice as a BioHacker.

Head to examine.com and check out the research and detailed info on it. I'm on their PhD program and they get all the peer reviewed studies listed and go in depth on what they do.

I don't really believe that word of mouth bull, I do my research, see if they have been reproduced and work, then go buy the product. That being said, I'm on at-least 10+ supplements a day excluding expensive nootropics. Research, research, research!!!
 
Yep, I take one a day after a friend that survived cancer suggested it - at the least it can't hurt and it does seem to help with soreness after the gym - anecdotal evidence mind you! Just watch what you do with it if you ever decide to start taking it, the stuff stains absolutely everything - don't even notice you have it on your hands most of the time. Cod liver oil is another good one to take daily. I've also been taking Vitamin B12 daily, that's good for an energy boost.

I've also been experimenting with various nootropics recently - although this probably isn't the place to discuss those...
 
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OK, thank you for your thoughts on this, I've used the unrefined root powder from the plant before, but stopped. I was listening to Coast to Coast AM the other day and one of their guests started discussing the benefits of taking tumeric root, causing my interest to be brought back again. I don't have anything to treat with it, but the older we get, the more likely we could have the big C chase us down, so thought it might be a good idea to help prevent it, many claim it works. There are a lot of potential benefits being discussed, so from all of that decided to buy more, but the extract this time.

Theracurmin sounds interesting, due to the way they suspend the finely ground extract in something it is soluble in, I know this stuff isn't soluble in water, not at all. I bought 100mg of the extract I posted the link to, started taking that this weekend along with some pepper added to help absorption, but it doesn't mix into a glass of water well with too much of the powder sticking in clumps to the side of the glass, so I just started using a half tea spoon of it and washing it down with water which has table pepper stirred into it. Pepper is reported to help absorption twenty fold, and with this extract being 95 percent refined, should work and less expensive than pills. However, the Theracurmin appears to be a better form to take it in. I'm trying to find how much curcumin is in each capsule, they don't say on their web page.

Edit: I found the info I was looking for under a tab: "Each 30mg capsule is equivalent to 8,100 mg of regular curcumin. Provides antioxidants for the maintenance of good health." If grinding the material into much finer particles increases absorption by 300 percent, then their 30mg per pill dose would be far more effective, if true and going by the recommendation here will try some.

I don't see any issue with discussing nootropics online here, none at all.
 
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I take care of my 91 year old mother and I have her on 10 different supplements in addition to her prescriptions, all of them approved by her doctor after I suggested or inquired about them. One of these is Turmeric Curcumin, the one I buy are 500mg capsules, it says on the label:

Turmeric Curcumin Complex 500 mg
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Turmeric (Curcuma longa) 450 mg
(root)
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Turmeric Extract. 50 mg
(Curcuma longa) (root) (standardized
to contain 95% curcuminoids)

I know it's main benefit is it is supposed to reduce or prevent inflammation. Turmeric is also a spice and is also one of the ingredients in curry, so I use it on some of our food too. I used to take a few supplements myself, but now I spend quite a lot on them so they are mainly for my mother and now I usually just take a multivitamin once a day although my health is deteriorating do to heart and liver problems, so I may start taking some things again.

Alan
 
I've sometimes sprinkled turmeric on food trying to get anti inflammatory effects but haven't noticed any real benefits. I will definitely try the curcumin extracts to see how they work. As I age I'm noticing more muscle pain which I associate with inflammatory reactions. Thanks for all the info and suggestions so far.

Ed
 
Alaskan said:
OK, thank you for your thoughts on this, I've used the unrefined root powder from the plant before, but stopped. I was listening to Coast to Coast AM the other day and one of their guests started discussing the benefits of taking tumeric root, causing my interest to be brought back again. I don't have anything to treat with it, but the older we get, the more likely we could have the big C chase us down, so thought it might be a good idea to help prevent it, many claim it works. There are a lot of potential benefits being discussed, so from all of that decided to buy more, but the extract this time.

Theracurmin sounds interesting, due to the way they suspend the finely ground extract in something it is soluble in, I know this stuff isn't soluble in water, not at all. I bought 100mg of the extract I posted the link to, started taking that this weekend along with some pepper added to help absorption, but it doesn't mix into a glass of water well with too much of the powder sticking in clumps to the side of the glass, so I just started using a half tea spoon of it and washing it down with water which has table pepper stirred into it. Pepper is reported to help absorption twenty fold, and with this extract being 95 percent refined, should work and less expensive than pills. However, the Theracurmin appears to be a better form to take it in. I'm trying to find how much curcumin is in each capsule, they don't say on their web page.

Edit: I found the info I was looking for under a tab: "Each 30mg capsule is equivalent to 8,100 mg of regular curcumin. Provides antioxidants for the maintenance of good health." If grinding the material into much finer particles increases absorption by 300 percent, then their 30mg per pill dose would be far more effective, if true and going by the recommendation here will try some.

I don't see any issue with discussing nootropics online here, none at all.
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Alaskan --- the Natrual Factors Theracumin was by far the more effective than any other I tried---I think the bioavailablity/absorbtion aspects for the reasons you metion made the difference. Raw root and root powder was a waste of moey ad time. You would have massive amout of it for same results. Eve the refined curcumi 95 was ot early as effective. The claim that Natual Factors makes " When it comes to curcumin, it’s not how much you take, but how much you absorb, that matters" is a good poit.

I can tell you this: I had significant inflamation in knees and ankles and associated pain from same due to no sleep for extended periods time for days that abused those joints. After about 2-3 days of 4 to 6 capsules a day the pain and imflamation/swelling disapated and was resloved--and I just kept taking it until I ran out of it. It got rid of other aches and pains as well. Same thing happened a few times prior and no other curcumin preparation did same however the other one CuraMed did relieve pain . Is good stuff--not sure about taking it daily or for C but for my situation the thercumin worked better than expected much to my surprise. Tried it at the suggestion of an nutritional expert guy who was also a personal trainer and worked at Whole Foods who sells all of the type--he was right---the theracumin was the real deal but not inexpensive even on sale.
 
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Alaskan:
I take it also as the result of listening to George Noory talking about it on CTC on the radio. I also looked up information about it on this website and it has more written about it than any other herb in their list: Turmeric

One thing to note is that Turmeric is not very easy for the body to digest and that taking black pepper at the same time (or take Turmeric at the same time you eat something with black pepper), it helps your body absorb Turmeric by an additional 2000%.

You also asked for opinions pro or con. I haven't noticed any con, but if the pros are there, then it's certainly worthwhile to take it. If I never end up with cancer as a result of taking it, then I may never know if I would have gotten cancer. But that's fine with me!
 
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Encap said:
I found 2 that work and actually reduced inflamation among many the did nothing.

Both are expensive.

Best one is : Natural Factors Theracumin- #1 best absorbed form of curamin-- bottle says 1 or 2 caps per day--I found 4 to 6 per day had an efffect CurcuminRich? Theracurmin? - Natural Factors

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Thanks for this information Encap. I just ordered 4 bottles of NF Theracumin from iHerb to try. I don't know if this is any cheaper than where you've been ordering that product from but in case it is, here's the info.

They say the MSRP is $29.95 for a 60 cap bottle but they sell it for $20.97. They offer an additional 5% discount if you order 4 bottles at a time. In addition to that, they give a "loyalty credit" of 10% of the cost of the current order which will be subtracted from the cost of the next order if that order is placed within 60 days. Free shipping too if you order the right quantities.

I hope this might help you save a little money. :yh:

Natural Factors, CurcuminRich, Theracurmin, 60 Veggie Caps - iHerb.com

Ed
 
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CoherentRays said:
Thanks for this information Encap. I just ordered 4 bottles of NF Theracumin from iHerb to try. I don't know if this is any cheaper than where you've been ordering that product from but in case it is, here's the info.

They say the MSRP is $29.95 for a 60 cap bottle but they sell it for $20.97. They offer an additional 5% discount if you order 4 bottles at a time. In addition to that, they give a "loyalty credit" of 10% of the cost of the current order which will be subtracted from the cost of the next order if that order is placed within 60 days. Free shipping too if you order the right quantities.

I hope this might help you save a little money. :yh:

Natural Factors, CurcuminRich, Theracurmin, 60 Veggie Caps - iHerb.com

Ed
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Don't know how these two products compare in terms of strength or effectiveness, but this is what I've been ordering:

Turmeric Curcumin and Piperine Capsules | Powder City

It's a little cheaper ($9.45 for 60) - comes with piperine (From black pepper) already mixed in, so you don't need to add black pepper! :D
 
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If you get serious about these bulk powder supplements and don't want to choke down the poweder, you can save quite a bit by buying a capsule-making machine and capping your own pills with bulk powder. I originally used one of those 24-capsule "Capsule Machines" that Amazon used to sell (can't find any reference to it on Amazon anymore). I eventually found that it took waaaay too long to make the capsules. I could only get about ~100 done in about an hour or so with sufficient tamping, etc. The empty capsules were (relatively) expensive too, at about $13/1000 capsules.

I eventually hunkered down and bought a 100x capsule making machine from CapsulCN, as well as 10,000 capsules divided into two sacks of separated halves. I got the size 0 capsules, but larger ones can be had for the more bulky powders. Though it all costs more up front, the capsules cost far less than buying them empty from Amazon (CapsulCN sells stuff there too). The capsules are also higher quality and look nice.

The machine saves a TON of time. Most of the time spent with the old machine was from splitting the empty capsules and then manually stuffing the halves into the holes. It got really old, really fast. The best part about the CapsulCN maker is that you just pour the empty capsules into loader, shake it up a bit, and the capsule halves "automatically" fill up the holes (watch the videos, it is exactly like that). I can get 100x done in the same time it took me to do 24, if not less.

The total price was about $150 for the machine + $50 for capsules + a bit for shipping ($50?) because of the bulk. Get it direct, not from Amazon. Overall, I think the time it all saves is worth the price.
 
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