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Re: Arctic: Spyder III: Review

Dave, thanks for the awesome review! As expected, the host looks cool, it burns pretty well, apparently...
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But it's just not up to par IMO.
I look forward to my own build in a few months when I have the funds, and will refer to this site multiple times.
I'd rather do a DIY than buy my powerhouse laser online. It'll be my jewel of the collection. And my first 445.
 
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Re: Arctic: Spyder III: Review

Im glad you devoted the time to write this review and share all your info. Im glad i did not buy this laser and i will surely be making my own 445 laser. + rep to you for a good job!
 
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Re: Arctic: Spyder III: Review

I have ordered the DrLava optic set and am designing the lens holders. 20mm seperation as posted but I want some adjustment. This is a real bastard machining project.

HMike
Anyone else here getting the lens set?
 
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Re: Arctic: Spyder III: Review

Well now we get some official measurements, power and divergence, thanks Dave.
Too bad that wicked did not use any corrective optics. It's a big laser, with plenty of room to add more then a standard lens.
Dave when you get a chance, can you take a closer look at the lens. Is it a single element lens?
 
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mmmhhhh wl stated a ROUND beam.... but it isn't so!!! ......
power was advertised as near 1watt... not 800mw.

please let us know the real divergence of it... :)

thank you for the rev..... hei for that price and NOT ROUND beam.. is better to buy a cni/dragonlasers.

ah daguin, can you show us a pictures about the 3 led that indicate the power of battery? is it usefull to see?
 
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Dave, is there a CNI like serial number in or on that laser anywhere? I've heard talk of a CNI serial number, but I won't believe it till I see it.

I've got about 10 aperture caps from CNI pens with serial numbers for comparison
 

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Re: Arctic: Spyder III: Review

Good job Dave, and thanks for verifying what many of us had suspected...

In fact, Chuck from AixiZ told me the Steve got a bunch of lenses from them... (after we did the testing and stuff)
 
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by pics... semms that the beam diameter is NOT 1.5mm.........but like all others builds... about 5mm.
i think 199 is a ghood price.. but is a price fos TEST UNITS.... wl does not still have the right knowhow ....to how construct it properly....... i will wait for months before to buy it.. or wait for a CNi ROUND BEAM.....



You won't get a round beam with these 1watt blue lasers, even the Dragon 1 watt states it has a retangle beam.

If you want one with a round beam go with the 400mw blue Spatan by Dragon.
 

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Re: Arctic: Spyder III: Review

Well now we get some official measurements, power and divergence, thanks Dave.
Too bad that wicked did not use any corrective optics. It's a big laser, with plenty of room to add more then a standard lens.
Dave when you get a chance, can you take a closer look at the lens. Is it a single element lens?


Good job Dave, and thanks for verifying what many of us had suspected...
In fact, Chuck from AixiZ told me the Steve got a bunch of lenses from them... (after we did the testing and stuff)

The lens has the same color and the same multiple reflection as the AixiZ 445nm glass lens.

mmmhhhh wl stated a ROUND beam.... but it isn't so!!! ......
power was advertised as near 1watt... not 800mw.
please let us know the real divergence of it... :)
thank you for the rev..... hei for that price and NOT ROUND beam.. is better to buy a cni/dragonlasers.
ah daguin, can you show us a pictures about the 3 led that indicate the power of battery? is it usefull to see?

The LED's are bright enough to see, but not bright enough to distract you. They are a pleasant gold color. They are not very "clear" in this pic, but in person, they are very easy to see. I haven't worn a battery out enough to see if the LED's will go out one at a time as the battery fades
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Dave, is there a CNI like serial number in or on that laser anywhere? I've heard talk of a CNI serial number, but I won't believe it till I see it.

I've got about 10 aperture caps from CNI pens with serial numbers for comparison

Here is the number inside the body. It is a "sticker."
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Also, someone asked me to test the output without the "high power" lens screwed on. I did. The output with just the Aixiz lens is 830mW

Peace,
dave
 
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That is what I was afraid of..... that arctic doesn't use correction optics.

What the hell are you guys expecting for the price? Even the Dragon 1 watt say it has not correction optics and is a retanglar beam also? yet seems their 400 mw has a round beam. Corrected optics with a 1 watt blue laser would cost a fortune, comeon your only paying $200 what do you expect?

even if it is 700 mw's the Arctic is still great value, look around at ready made greens, or reds and won't get a 700mw anywhere as cheap as the Arctic, looking forward to mine.

Lots of moaning going on here. Waiting moaning we are waiting (even me) and moan when the G1 is available. Seems no one is happy and a lot of hostility towards WL and the Arctic.

Even if it was the best would people be happy, no, they would still rubbish it.

It has no corrected Optics so expect the beam to not be good, As long as it burns thats fine. Corrected optics, I have read somewhere rob a lot of power and many DIY of this power don't use correctec optics, you don't need them for burning. I would imagine the more lenses you had the more power loss.

Thanks Dave, good review and pictures, the info makes me glad I am still getting mine. I cannot see any good reviews at all as to many are so hostile that there will no be honest reviews of this laser, yours maybe the best and only honest review we will see. Pity people's hostily will cloud their judment. Many on this forum will always hate the Arctic no matter what so no honest reviews, only hostile ones.
 
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Re: Arctic: Spyder III: Review

Stay on topic folks. I would hat to have to close my own review thread because of bickering.

I have seen Electron's laser and looked at a video that he linked me to. It may be that my laser is missing a "beauty" piece. Look at this picture of Electron's
28506d1280784347-arctic-metered-lens.jpg

See that wide black piece?

Now look at mine
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The OUTSIDE of the piece holding the lens in mine is threaded. That "beauty piece", could easily just screw onto he threaded piece in mine to "block" the view of the module parts under the lens

Peace,
dave
 
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Re: Arctic: Spyder III: Review

You Gonna ask Them to send You one? I like both looks, but for different reasons.

Coherent:
 
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Stay on topic folks. I would hat to have to close my own review thread because of bickering.

I have seen Electron's laser and looked at a video that he linked me to. It may be that my laser is missing a "beauty" piece. Look at this picture of Electron's
28506d1280784347-arctic-metered-lens.jpg

See that wide black piece?

Now look at mine
IMG_1029.jpg


The OUTSIDE of the piece holding the lens in mine is threaded. That "beauty piece", could easily just screw onto he threaded piece in mine to "block" the view of the module parts under the lens

Peace,
dave

So... not all arctics are created equal? :crackup: But really, his has the piece and yours doesn't?
 

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Re: Arctic: Spyder III: Review

What the hell are you guys expecting for the price? Even the Dragon 1 watt say it has not correction optics and is a retanglar beam also? yet seems their 400 mw has a round beam. Corrected optics with a 1 watt blue laser would cost a fortune, comeon your only paying $200 what do you expect?

even if it is 700 mw's the Arctic is still great value, look around at ready made greens, or reds and won't get a 700mw anywhere as cheap as the Arctic, looking forward to mine.

Lots of moaning going on here. Waiting moaning we are waiting (even me) and moan when the G1 is available. Seems no one is happy and a lot of hostility towards WL and the Arctic.

Even if it was the best would people be happy, no, they would still rubbish it.

It has no corrected Optics so expect the beam to not be good, As long as it burns thats fine. Corrected optics, I have read somewhere rob a lot of power and many DIY of this power don't use correctec optics, you don't need them for burning. I would imagine the more lenses you had the more power loss.

Thanks Dave, good review and pictures, the info makes me glad I am still getting mine. I cannot see any good reviews at all as to many are so hostile that there will no be honest reviews of this laser, yours maybe the best and only honest review we will see. Pity people's hostily will cloud their judment. Many on this forum will always hate the Arctic no matter what so no honest reviews, only hostile ones.

It's not that it isn't a good price...

It's all the lies about the specs in order to sell thousands of units that are not what were promised...

Of course people are going to be upset. It's natural...
 
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It's not that it isn't a good price...

It's all the lies about the specs in order to sell thousands of units that are not what were promised...

Of course people are going to be upset. It's natural...

Well is anything to spec, been into videogaming for years, even got a PS3 and Xbox360 and see all these pretty games in development. These are developed on powerful computers, and demos and videos are often from the game still running on computer, and the finished games never look the same on your console as the game development shows, even spec wise often fails, this applies to many things in life, never matching the specs, people are lied to all the time through advisting.

I don't beleive half of what I read and see, so did not get disapointed with the Arctic. It still does what is intended so why be upset. Many gamers must be used to the lies, as they don't jump up and down like people here are with the Arctic. I say get over it. Your lied to everyday adds are often full of lies and half truths. The spec lies for the Arctic is nothing new? Many other lasers never live up to the specs either. And many are falsly advistising the power rating, yet I don't see people complaining about these other lasers.
 
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