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Opinions on Current Ebola Outbreak

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So I don't want any Obama hating. This isn't about him. What I do want are opinions on the current Ebola Outbreak(estimated death count of 4555 at this time) and what you think the trajectory of this deadly virus is.

To those who are in the dark, it has been devastating West Africa and we now have had 3 cases(AFAIK) in the US.
 





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I think that it is going to cause a lot of panic. Spread and kill more. Then be cured and we all forget about it 2 years from now
 
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It's an easily contained infectious disease. The only way it gets out is through contact with infected fluids. The reason it spreads in africa like wildfire is because the culture there is uneducated about infectious disease. If containment protocols are effectively activated here in the states it will die off quickly. Of course people will panic, there's nutjobs already saying that ebola is "caused" like autism is "caused". When your populace is dumb enough to say and believe the ridiculous things they do the rest of the year, they're sure as hell dumb enough to not understand ebola.
 
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Though I don't think people shouldn't be panicking over something that they will probably never encounter, Ebola is definitely a very dangerous virus, with an extremely high mortality rate even in countries with very good health systems -- at any price. That experimental anti-Ebola drug cocktail ZMapp, which costs something like $10,000 a dose (at least 2x doses are needed), and isn't even proven effective and has failed in some cases; the supply has also run out. It's a deadly disease, whatever health official organizations in your countries should definitely be taking Ebola seriously to ensure that it doesn't become anything more than "something affecting Africa."

Even though I don't buy into the panic, I also find lame some of the jokes making fun of the attention people place on Ebola compared to other causes of death. People aren't concerned about heart disease or smoking deaths because those are generally lifestyle choices. Comparing the fear of being infected by Ebola to the chances that you'll get struck by lightning, killed by a car, or something like that would be far more reasonable.
 

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Though I don't think people shouldn't be panicking over something that they will probably never encounter, Ebola is definitely a very dangerous virus, with an extremely high mortality rate even in countries with very good health systems -- at any price. That experimental anti-Ebola drug cocktail ZMapp, which costs something like $10,000 a dose (at least 2x doses are needed), and isn't even proven effective and has failed in some cases; the supply has also run out. It's a deadly disease, whatever health official organizations in your countries should definitely be taking Ebola seriously to ensure that it doesn't become anything more than "something affecting Africa."

Even though I don't buy into the panic, I also find lame some of the jokes making fun of the attention people place on Ebola compared to other causes of death. People aren't concerned about heart disease or smoking deaths because those are generally lifestyle choices. Comparing the fear of being infected by Ebola to the chances that you'll get struck by lightning, killed by a car, or something like that would be far more reasonable.

I do agree with this, however I just feel like it is an easily contained disease and due to all this panic a lot of money is going into a cure is will be gone very quickly. It has just stuck around so long because it only was in Africa so nobody cared here which is quite sad but is the truth
 
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If the cdc stops being a bunch of blithering morons and do their job with containment, it will be fine. That guy that flew in (Rest in peace) should have been quarantined immediately simply due to where he came from. Also, surely the nurse getting it surely could have been prevented, but who knows. Im certainly no expert. It jist seems that proper procedure in that situation would not lead to getting infected, but at least they have her isolated.
Over all I don't think its worth fretting over. Proper isolation of these first few cases, travel regulations to-from infected regions in Africa, and all will be fine. The only reason its such an ordeal in africa is, like Sig said, uneducated population as well as factors such as medical personnel not protecting themselves, not properly cleaning up the deceased, and so on.
 
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I'm concerned it can get out of hand over here too, in the USA I mean but who wouldn't be at this point. I'm reading the differing opinions, but one thing for sure, our media will capitalize on any story they can to sell the advertisements which go along with the story. I don't trust our media any more than our government , what is the truth? Time will tell.
 
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Hmm. I think the cases in the US will likely get batted down and contained. Definitely more of a problem in less developed countries where they have less hospitals, (generally) are less sanitary, and where their citizens are less educated about it and how it spreads.

Hopefully, some of theses experimental treatments that they are allowing to be used will be effective without causing any major problems of their own. With any luck more developed countries will be able to send help in the form of hazmat suits, ways of isolating patients, perhaps some experts if they're willing to take the risk who can both treat patients and teach doctors there better ways of treating it.

If it goes on for a long time, hopefully people who are immune will be identified and perhaps a cure/better treatment, or a way to immunize people against it, and maybe a way to reduce its ability to spread will be found.

Nothing like a mass outbreak and panic to encourage a cure.
 

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Good time time be living on an island, it may be the biggest island, but its an island :D. I honestly think because ebola has a limited variety of transmission methods it should be easy to contain, as long as people are properly educated about it.

If ebola does wipe us off the planet, we probably deserve it.
 
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[I think ebola will] be cured

There is currently NO cure for ANY viral disease. Why would ebola be different?

A vaccination, maybe. But vaccines do nothing if you're already infected.

If ebola does wipe us off the planet, we probably deserve it.

You think every human deserves to die? This is a nauseating opinion, and I think you're a bad person for having it.
 
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I honestly don't know what will happen. Im basically just checking it's progress every few days & thinking of what I could do if it does come to the worst :)

-Alex
 

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You think every human deserves to die? This is a nauseating opinion, and I think you're a bad person for having it.

I don't want everyone to die, and don't think the current victims do deserve it, but I'm pretty sure that the world has enough resources to control the virus. If the world leaders put as much focus on containing ebola as they do on oil, it would be over really fast.
 
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If ebola does wipe us off the planet, we probably deserve it.

My thought is, if we kill ourselves off as a species due to our warring natures, we probably deserve it, but ebola, that's something else.

If ebola gets completely out of control, which I doubt will happen, we will all have a problem with having enough food in a short amount of time. I'm not a hard core prepper, but I believe everyone should have an amount of food storage, even up to a couple of years worth. There are lots more reasons to have some long term food storage than disease, the sun regularly blasts out waves of energy, which if they hit the earth, would put us back to the time before electricity, halting farming and food distribution.

The most powerful known earth-directed solar flare occurred during 1859 and is known as the Carrington Event. Telegraph lines, the most advanced technology at the time, burst into flames. If such a powerful event occurred today, life as we know it in America would cease for quite a long time.
 
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There are lots more reasons to have some long term food storage than disease, the sun regularly blasts out waves of energy, which if they hit the earth, would put us back to the time before electricity, halting farming and food distribution.

The most powerful known earth-directed solar flare occurred during 1859 and is known as the Carrington Event. Telegraph lines, the most advanced technology at the time, burst into flames. If such a powerful event occurred today, life as we know it in America would cease for quite a long time.

I'm sure it'd be terrible, but I'd probably stock up on guns before some months supplies of food to sit it out.
 




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