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Wesdaman

I think you should just try and make - up and get this all over with already !
 





When he shows he can become a responsible member (human being) by giving back what
he owes Dave... Maybe...
 
I registered as, 'TUBGIRL' on his new forum (for no particular reason ::) ;D ;D ;) ;)) and I got insta-banned. :(

LOL, his forum will go NOWHERE. AT ALL.
 
Murudai said:
If this was one of my forums I'd give him a 2 week ban.

A perma ban should only be reserved for someone going around and intentionally wrecking things. For example, an advertising spammer. Or a deliberate flamer who jacks threads.  

Wes didn't intentionally go and wreck forum life. You may disagree, but it's true, he stuck to his own little threads and didn't cause much of a problem beyond that. Only 3-4 threads in grand total were messed up by him, and they were made by him too, so it wasn't a thread jack and isn't a major problem on wider forum life.

Just his attitude and methodologies clashed with other peoples and it resulted in large arguments and problems in those specific threads he made. Ban material, but not perma ban material.



I've dealt with countless individuals like wes on my own forums, it isn't uncommon. As long as you keep an eye on them and step in well before things get out of control then they can exist peacefully in forum life.

Though, an issue here is that there is no mods to do that. In a moderated forum, if you follow those guidelines people like wes can easily be managed and kept under control. But as these forums have no moderators, that isn't possible. Thus the only real option is a perma ban, but normally it shouldn't come to that.
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I don't think moderators are necessary on a site like this.  We are here to share our hobby with others and little off topic stuff to share a little about ourselves as well.  LPF is a privilege, not a right, like driving.  There are law enforcers, but people still have the freedom to break them if they want, but if they cross the line they will crash or have their license revoked, ultimately "banned" from driving.  It would be in the admin's best interest to install moderators if they are at legal risks without them.  I say give him at least 3month ban for what he's said and done, and if he continues to act up, then 6 months, then 9, 12, 15 then eventually he will either mature and respect this site for what it's worth or he will fall off completely and the problem will be naturally solved.
 
Ace82 said:
[quote author=Murudai link=1219279276/40#41 date=1219469358]If this was one of my forums I'd give him a 2 week ban.

A perma ban should only be reserved for someone going around and intentionally wrecking things. For example, an advertising spammer. Or a deliberate flamer who jacks threads.  

Wes didn't intentionally go and wreck forum life. You may disagree, but it's true, he stuck to his own little threads and didn't cause much of a problem beyond that. Only 3-4 threads in grand total were messed up by him, and they were made by him too, so it wasn't a thread jack and isn't a major problem on wider forum life.

Just his attitude and methodologies clashed with other peoples and it resulted in large arguments and problems in those specific threads he made. Ban material, but not perma ban material.



I've dealt with countless individuals like wes on my own forums, it isn't uncommon. As long as you keep an eye on them and step in well before things get out of control then they can exist peacefully in forum life.

Though, an issue here is that there is no mods to do that. In a moderated forum, if you follow those guidelines people like wes can easily be managed and kept under control. But as these forums have no moderators, that isn't possible. Thus the only real option is a perma ban, but normally it shouldn't come to that.
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I don't think moderators are necessary on a site like this.  We are here to share our hobby with others and little off topic stuff to share a little about ourselves as well.  LPF is a privilege, not a right, like driving.  There are law enforcers, but people still have the freedom to break them if they want, but if they cross the line they will crash or have their license revoked, ultimately "banned" from driving.  It would be in the admin's best interest to install moderators if they are at legal risks without them.  I say give him at least 3month ban for what he's said and done, and if he continues to act up, then 6 months, then 9, 12, 15 then eventually he will either mature and respect this site for what it's worth or he will fall off completely and the problem will be naturally solved.[/quote]
He doesn't deserve any more chances. I say just leave him permabanned.
 
i agree this kid has gone to far many times. and he should have been banned at one of the first remarks for each one after should have added to the sentence.

i think he has ran out of strikes
 
thesk8nmidget said:
i agree this kid has gone to far many times. and he should have been banned at one of the first remarks for each one after should have added to the sentence.

i think he has ran out of strikes
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I don’t think he deserves to be banned for life, because people can and do change.  Righteously, we should hope that he does and forgive him for his juvenile practices if he proves himself worthy and sincere.    However, I’m simply giving my opinion, and no ways do I wish to argue the matter or defend him in any means.  So I ultimately have no objections to the permaban either.

EDIT: WES, IF YOU'RE READING THIS, CLICK HERE
 
i can tell you from personal experience that wes has not changed AT ALL! he added me on yahoo im and some of his first words to me were to call me ignorant just to make sure i was listening to him. he talks shit to get a rise out of ppl and doesnt seem to care very much if it offends you or not. he was deleted and reported as spam to yahoo for his comments. if you want my opinion he should stay banned PERMANANTLY!
 
Ban him for life. Seriously. I wasn't around for all of his mischief, however I think I have read enough to have a suitable opinion.


;DLOL ;D his forum has 3 registered users!
 
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