With all due respect.
Bullshit.
No HENE producer is ever going to use a HENE production line to make lamps. The crud coming out of lamp activation, that remains in a vacuum system, would kill a HENE. Lamp cathodes have to be "activated" and its a high temperature process with a lot of carbon and organics release. HENE cathodes are activated with a cold oxygen gas discharge.
REO contracts out much of its tube production process. However vacuum is done in house. Until you have that line identified to two digits after the decimal point, you have no idea if it is Penning ionization of a minute trace of Argon, or a NE collision line.
REO's staff are highly skilled. That would not go un-noticed. Especially since they make dual line HENEs deliberately.
You have not done the obvious, and email REO for a identification. My bet is they know. A new HENE design is too difficult to design and test without measuring single pass gain or checking for competition effects.
If .5% AR from a purchase of Lamp grade neon is there, when diluted between 5:1 or 7:1 I Helium the small signal gain would be amazingly low. Consider that isotopic NE is ordered for HENEs, no way would say Spectra Gasses supply a HENE manufacturer with a contaminated gas. A D2 Bottle of Laser Grade gas is 700$, because of the purity testing. If AR was there, it would show up on the Residual Mass Analyzer on the vacuum system. REO knows vacuum very well, they need UHV levels for the coating chambers.
To get to UHV on a large system, you need a RMA to identify what is remaining in your chamber or laser pumping manifold, to identify leaks and materials coming from things like gaskets and cathode processing.
HeNE is a Penning mix, there is no reason to add AR to lower ionization potential. If you want to prove this, check the side line spectrum and find me neutral AR lines.
Its a NE line, I'm 90% sure of it. Why you and Sam are ignoring the link I sent you, I have no idea.
REO never made indicator lamps.
Also REO has more experience with Ion Laser optics then you might know. They have a optics division, that is their bread and butter. The main REO product for years was superpolished, ion plated, mirrors for cavity optics. I've bought broadband ion laser mirrors from them.
If you want to do science, you need more then anecdotal proof. Welcome to peer review, a part of the scientific method.
Steve
Bullshit.
No HENE producer is ever going to use a HENE production line to make lamps. The crud coming out of lamp activation, that remains in a vacuum system, would kill a HENE. Lamp cathodes have to be "activated" and its a high temperature process with a lot of carbon and organics release. HENE cathodes are activated with a cold oxygen gas discharge.
REO contracts out much of its tube production process. However vacuum is done in house. Until you have that line identified to two digits after the decimal point, you have no idea if it is Penning ionization of a minute trace of Argon, or a NE collision line.
REO's staff are highly skilled. That would not go un-noticed. Especially since they make dual line HENEs deliberately.
You have not done the obvious, and email REO for a identification. My bet is they know. A new HENE design is too difficult to design and test without measuring single pass gain or checking for competition effects.
If .5% AR from a purchase of Lamp grade neon is there, when diluted between 5:1 or 7:1 I Helium the small signal gain would be amazingly low. Consider that isotopic NE is ordered for HENEs, no way would say Spectra Gasses supply a HENE manufacturer with a contaminated gas. A D2 Bottle of Laser Grade gas is 700$, because of the purity testing. If AR was there, it would show up on the Residual Mass Analyzer on the vacuum system. REO knows vacuum very well, they need UHV levels for the coating chambers.
To get to UHV on a large system, you need a RMA to identify what is remaining in your chamber or laser pumping manifold, to identify leaks and materials coming from things like gaskets and cathode processing.
HeNE is a Penning mix, there is no reason to add AR to lower ionization potential. If you want to prove this, check the side line spectrum and find me neutral AR lines.
Its a NE line, I'm 90% sure of it. Why you and Sam are ignoring the link I sent you, I have no idea.
REO never made indicator lamps.
Also REO has more experience with Ion Laser optics then you might know. They have a optics division, that is their bread and butter. The main REO product for years was superpolished, ion plated, mirrors for cavity optics. I've bought broadband ion laser mirrors from them.
If you want to do science, you need more then anecdotal proof. Welcome to peer review, a part of the scientific method.
Steve
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