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Even though you closed the dispute, you could try and 'call' paypal rather than
email.

Tell them that you closed the dispute because the seller insisted your package
was on its way. etc etc...

Paypal can still help you.. They have a 1800- # under the 'contact us' tab
where you have to get a 'phone code' and then call the number.

Explain the situation, and see what happens. They can still pull money
from the seller and give it to you if they see what has happened.

For 150$ its worth the 20min phone call


Good luck :beer:

I called them, and they told me that there was nothing they could now do about it. They said my only hope was to contact the bank, which I did.


I never scam'ed you, and i have asked UPS to Track the package if in fact it was not dilvered to you and loss in the mail i will refound your money and get payed by the insurnce coverage on the package,

also note you filed a dispute the sec i told you the item was shipet , and it take slonger then a day for it to pass custeums.

but hey thanks for the report, and sorry to say this next time Don't file a Dsipute untill theres time for it to arrive.

feel free to call paypal i don't know the 800 number but here is there non 800

PayPal Customer Service:

402-935-2050
(a U.S. telephone number)



they have been given copys of all shipping paper work and you can request it from them as it was faxed to them when you first filed your dispute.

have a nice day

and tell the story rigth i told you to close it or put in a claim, as i was willing to fax paypal my paper work but they advised there was no claim in yet. i gave you the choice to close it or file it as a claim and that if the dispute remained open well the item was in transit i would contact the shipper and have the item pulled and retruned to sender if posible

Okay, it hasn't been given to me, so can you refund the money now?
And I waited till a week after you claimed to have shipped it until I filed the dispute. I filed the dispute after the date you told me it should reach me by.
You also told me when I filed the dispute that it has crossed the border and should be with me within 24 hours.


Did you send the buyer the tracking #? UPS is notorious for breaking things
but they are pretty good with the tracking like fedex (so far knock on wood)

Using 'package intercept' costs extra $$. Never used it, but watch for extra
fees.. Thats one thing UPS always gets right, the billing.. granted its in their
favor that is :D


Paypal.. Need a 'web pin' first on their contact page..

Customer Service
1-888-221-1161
6:00 AM to 12:00 AM CST Monday through Friday
8:00 AM to 10:00 PM CST Saturday and Sunday

I asked him for a tracking number, but he told me I'd be able to remove the 'hold' on the package myself if he gave me it.


i used a paypal shipping lable and it should all be updated using paypal, i kept my recpt for the shipping and due to the fact the buyer ie OP, filed a dispute right at the time i told him the item was sent made me not want to talk to him any longer as i filed him as a scamer, as you can see by the feed back i left him right when he disputed i put feed back on this forum about it.

I have asked paypal to look over my paper work and they advised me today that if a dispute was filed and updated to a claim i would win because i showed that the item was sent , paypal has it on file now and advised that the Buyer Can get this info by request..

the fact that this OP Made such a post on these forums without first contacting me about it, and expected the item to arrive wtihin a day from canada makes me not want to deal with him,,

so i'll leave this thread like this, If this OP feels i have scamed him he can contact his Local Law Inforcment and file a Complant, plz pm me the Police Report Number and the Officer you file with this way i can contact the officer about the issue, as it is a crime in anywhere to take someone's money and lie to them

other then that i'm done with this issue, if UPS advise's that the item was not delivered you'll get a refound, if they advised it was delievered then contact paypal and have them deal with it. cause you have pushed this way too fare by calling me a scamer i'm done with you.

Peace.

As I said, I waited more than a week, and I waited longer than you told me to wait. And another member messaged me today telling me that he had paid for the same laser and received a 405nm 5mw cheap chinese pointer.


This is the very reason it's a good idea to use a middle man and it would only cost about $6.00 more for the extra shipping.

I have been in the middle befor and will do it again to help the members :D

Yeah, definitely. Thanks, next time I'll be sure to use any trusted middle man like yourself.



This sounds strange, how long could UPS take to ship something from Canada to USA?

Is there really time enough to file disputes, holding back packages, faxing paperwork, etc. ?
Or do you need some days between payment and shipment to manage it?

He told me that it was 'Express with tracking'.
And by the way, it was from Canada to UK.



If this is false the OP just needs to be patient for a while and wait for his laser.

If this is true: You fell for the oldest one in the book. Learn from it and don't fall for it again.

Unfortunately, I did fall for the oldest one in the book. It's been more than 15 day since I ordered this laser. I've learnt from this.


my pms are not disabled. anyone can pm me from waht i know i get pm's from other members of these forums,

as for how long dose ups take, in my city you do not drop off the package at ups it gets picked up from your house within 24-72 hrs from notfiing them of the package to be sent. then it still has to enter the place outside of canada and usa and other countery's have deff custeums it can take time.

ontop of that the item was going to the UK not the USA

What?! You told me you were going to drive my package to ship it. Why wasn't I told they pick it up?


I see, that is plenty of time for some buyers to get impatient and do regrettable things.

It still looks a bit odd to try to get someone to close a paypal dispute with a package on the way, the signature for it would be a great way to settle it.

And where is the laser now?
It have been two weeks+, right?

I know, I'd expect it to take pretty long.
If he had told me it'd take 3 weeks, I would wait 3 weeks. But the fact is, I've waited more than a week longer than he said it would take to arrive.
 





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I say you guys should post screenshots of your pm's here rather than fighting. Good luck to both people and I hope you guys only have a misunderstanding here.

Thanks,
Jeff
 
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Actually it is quite easy....
Someone needs to see the UPS Tracking number...

@ scarletwolf301..... Why don't you PM me the UPS Tracking
number and let me check into it...
I've done a lot of Import/Export with UPS in the past....


Again... I find it strange that you would not share the UPS
Tracking number with your buyer...:undecided:


Jerry
 

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I say you guys should post screenshots of your pm's here rather than fighting. Good luck to both people and I hope you guys only have a misunderstanding here.

Thanks,
Jeff

I will do so if he doesn't mind.
 
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Posting PMs won't solve anything but increase the Drama....

It is the UPS Tracking number that holds the truth....IMO


Jerry
 
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^^^ all thils could have been avoided. i still hope it works out.

at OP... next time wait a little longer than a week. filining a claim so soon is pretty bad too.

michael.
 

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^^^ all thils could have been avoided. i still hope it works out.

at OP... next time wait a little longer than a week. filining a claim so soon is pretty bad too.

michael.

I waited 17 days, he said it would only take a few days.
The thing is that he told me before 'Im leaving to ship your laser in 10 mins', but now he says that they pick it up from him.
 
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Yeah, kids should not be allowed to sell things over the internet. Problems always arise.
 
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Yeah... that discussion on putting a 200 post minimum post count
to be able to sell on the Forum... would perhaps have prevented
this.... Then again... maybe the package is in customs...

I'm still waiting for a response from scarletwolf031...
about the UPS Tracking Number....

He's been on the forum at 3:01 PM but seems to be busy with more
important things...

Jerry
 
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^^ nlike jerry said , just reveal the tracking number, that raises alarms....as does the buyer asking him to close the dispute...a scammers classic trick.
 
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scarletwolf031 has last been on the Forum again at 5:42 PM EST
yesterday and could have easily responded to these requests for
that "elusive" and "secretive" UPS Tracking Number.......

Why is he hiding..... and not responding.....:thinking:

I'm starting to question the actions of scarletwolf031...
What is so difficult in posting a UPS Tracking Number....

Perhaps scarletwolf031 could post here and clear that up....

With that "mysterious" UPS Tracking number it will be easy to
see who is pulling the wool over Member's eyes...


Jerry
 

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I can think of people here who would be very eager to get something like this cleared up as fast as possible. (Actually I would be hard put to mention any who would not.)
 

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Scarletwolf031! Please post the tracking number here or private message it to laserbee.
 
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