Hey you get what you pay for. If you pay for cheap, reliable, factory-produced hosts from China you get reliable hosts. If you pay for expensive artisanship (which by definition is prone to going over budget) you get expensive, not-neccessarily-functional hosts ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Negative Experience - Le Thanh Tung (thanhtung)
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Wait, What?
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Yea, my problem is how agreeing to a certain price and then bingo, sorry it will really cost this much.... Anodizing should not cost several times more without fricken asking me if he should go ahead and do it first. That is not just poor business practice, it is unethical. When I'm told a low price, and then all of the sudden it is hundreds of dollars but too late, I already had the work done without talking to me first for a go ahead, that isn't right. Likely, I suspect, just a scam for more $$$.
What I'm saying is that China (and other nearby countries) offer very affordable prices for mass-produced products (and can easily beat any local manufacturer). But when it comes to artisanship, you might be better off sticking to local guys
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Well, the advantage to using Trinh is that he does all of the planning and work to have someone who has the large machinery which can do the work. The state side guys on this forum do not have the equipment to do some of my builds. Trinh does small hosts, but not the larger more complex units I want, so he had to outsource the work to a CNC shop.
He does outstanding design and the work is great, just that I think he took advantage of me because I already gave him close to a 1000 dollar advance, then kept sliding a month at a time later, and later until about 4 months late and then authorizes work at much higher prices without getting my authorization first (or just a way to get more cash, no receipts). However, he did come through, just that he packed it so bad half of the stuff was damaged. Then he didn't send that last host I paid for, that is completely dishonest.
That all said, there is no way I could have gotten the work done he did just about anywhere else at the higher price I ended up paying, but now I have hosts with deep dings and gouges as well as damaged threads so miserably malformed I cannot assemble them. I could spend hundreds of dollars shipping charges to send these huge hosts back, but I lost all trust of doing business with him, so they remain damaged until I can find someone to fix them. He offered no resolution to help me beyond sending back to him at my cost, and returned to me at my cost when he used the thinnest bubble wrap you can buy and didn't use much of it to wrap each piece, some of them weighing ten pounds each all together inside a box, nothing at all to protect them, allowed to rattle and smash together the whole trip. I was clueless he didn't know how to pack!!!
He became quiet after that and does not communicate with me, I have contacted him three times about the host he offered for sale in this forum that I paid for a year ago now, asks me what I want, I send a photo of the host he offered here who he sold to someone else, getting money from both of us without telling me, but not sending a duplicate to me as he promised, once I found out he sold it twice. Why in the hell would you sell the host I paid for to someone else anyway?
He does outstanding design and the work is great, just that I think he took advantage of me because I already gave him close to a 1000 dollar advance, then kept sliding a month at a time later, and later until about 4 months late and then authorizes work at much higher prices without getting my authorization first (or just a way to get more cash, no receipts). However, he did come through, just that he packed it so bad half of the stuff was damaged. Then he didn't send that last host I paid for, that is completely dishonest.
That all said, there is no way I could have gotten the work done he did just about anywhere else at the higher price I ended up paying, but now I have hosts with deep dings and gouges as well as damaged threads so miserably malformed I cannot assemble them. I could spend hundreds of dollars shipping charges to send these huge hosts back, but I lost all trust of doing business with him, so they remain damaged until I can find someone to fix them. He offered no resolution to help me beyond sending back to him at my cost, and returned to me at my cost when he used the thinnest bubble wrap you can buy and didn't use much of it to wrap each piece, some of them weighing ten pounds each all together inside a box, nothing at all to protect them, allowed to rattle and smash together the whole trip. I was clueless he didn't know how to pack!!!
He became quiet after that and does not communicate with me, I have contacted him three times about the host he offered for sale in this forum that I paid for a year ago now, asks me what I want, I send a photo of the host he offered here who he sold to someone else, getting money from both of us without telling me, but not sending a duplicate to me as he promised, once I found out he sold it twice. Why in the hell would you sell the host I paid for to someone else anyway?
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The project was probably too big for him, he has other life demands and I believe his estimate was so low he might not have made much, might be why he didn't send me the last host I paid for. Those circumstances wouldn't be so bad, but the packing, that was BAD.
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It’s still completely unacceptable for a businessman to just not ship an item you’ve paid for...
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I read this thread too late, and I'm appalled by this,I'm so sorry for always being late on custom orders, but I couldn't make it any faster, I emailed Chris and didn't understand what I owed him, even an offer to fix the things. Details that are deformed in transit are also ignored, then we still emailed each other about the pointers 100W,green 2W,etc,,,,,,
I should have let this filth sink and no one would see it, but more than anything, I wanted Chris to be able to come online and help me answer my questions.
What did I owe him?
Also, if he says anodize is for profit and a scam, i think he should go to vietnam and get a quote on this, after my work, i feel bitter when i read with these things
since 2020 the world is in disaster,international shipping has a lot of problems and i have lost more than one order and got refund as agreed by the members here i still take custom orders tweaking and still trying to complete them, the price is always given before proceeding, I don't think there's anything shady.
Finally, I'm sorry, Chirs, but most of all, I need your reply, I want to know clearly what I was missing from last order.
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Alaskan and his other accounts have been banned from this forum.
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ok thank you for this information
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Banned? Really, you removed his accounts and he's voluntarily stepped back from the forum like a lot of us.
If they are banned, then why is there no post stating of such in the Ban Information Thread.
Seeing he was a very active member you would think his banning would of been well known and stated formally.
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He's welcomed to voluntarily never return. Active or not he's not above anyone else despite what he thinks. I banned one account and another mod banned the second. His last posts were mass spam on multiple threads. He was asked to stop 3 times then given a temp ban. Considering the damage he's done to this forum the next one is permanent,
None of the mods need to post a reason why. Keep that in mind Mr. Entitled.
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Well I know there is more going on between you both so I'll leave it as that.
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There is a lot of history not just with me but with everything else on here (I'm not the only one chris messed with) but I have not based a decision on emotion. I discuss any situation with the mod team and won't take action until something is unanimously agreed upon.
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Yea let's just say I have dug through some of the stuff Alaskan did to other members including the threats he made, I can back up Unowns and the mod team's decision.