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Laser Goggles Slightly Exaggerated?

Yeah I know, I got you, man. I just find it stupid when I can't see its brilliant beam.

If you want to see a brilliant beam you should take a chair
and set it 10 feet away from ground zero of a nuclear explosion..
I hear it's overwhelming... :D

No you won't need any goggles... :whistle:

Jerry
 
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you have not understood the utility of googles.

they are used to avoid accidents.
that's like the safety belt in your car. you didn't need to put it, till the day you got an accident ...
 
What we are trying to say is just because its pretty and just because you want to look at it, you can't "wish" it in to being safe. Just like I wish I could healthily live on pizza, bacon, beer, and fast food. Damaging your vision is your own right as a free human being. You are free to do so.
 
If you want to see the beam why not go outside and do it and reduce the chances of reflections etc ??
 
Toaster , i hear what your saying, but your gonna get flamed.

You pay all that money...you wanna see the beam! , i hear ya i really do.

What were sying here is have fun, but take basic precautions, lasers come and go, you get ONE pair of eyes...dont take the chance bud...as has been pointed out here, accidents happen.

While you can be reasonably sure ur in control...unextpected things can happen. Its just common sence...your dealing with a device that can blind you instantly...why take that chance? .
As jerry rightly pointed out, people wear lids when thier on a motorcycle (most people) .

Its just a precaution should the unexpected happen.
 
I will say that the only time i use any sort of protection is when i know my face is going to be close to the beam. aka aligning optics in my projector.
But once i am done the projector is mounted on the floor where the beams dont go higher than my hips or above my head where they cant hit my head.
I do have many 445nm pointers but i have gotten so used to them i build them shine them once to make sure they work still not using goggles and put them in a case.
I have not used mine in a while. but i am also very ocd about my space.
Any place i have a beam shooting i want it on some sort of matte gray surface.
If you plan on shinning you laser into a crystal ball and dont wear them you are asking for trouble as you can't predict the beams out put.
If you are sure of your environment whether its indoors or outdoors, you can go without them but remeber nothing is perfect so they are your chances to take.
example. a stealth bomber could fly over head into the beam and have a perfectly shaped mirror to collect the beam and zap it right into my skull. now there was no way to know that was there but it happened.
If you ride motorcycles with no helmet and decide some risks are worth taking then go ahead.
Its your life and we are not hear to judge how you want to live it.
But we will always preach the use of proper safety precautions.
But no you are not alone. i would sit there and watch the beams from my projector for hours above my head it is a great sight to see 7 colors of the rainbow and soon to be over 100 colors (analog).
So remember to cover your eyes when the nuclear explosion goes off and wave high to us in the bunker. We have a cold beer ready for ya.
 
Take a lesson from insects ;) bugs simply LOVE all of those beautiful lights right up until the moment they get fried. It would appear that the same love of light carries over to humans, so why wouldn't the frying part? I mean, look at every person who goes and hangs out at the beach enjoying the sun too long without Sunscreen: they fry.

Wear yo goggles, man, don't fry.
 
Do you need goggles to use a Class IV laser? Do you need seatbelts to drive in NASCAR? Do you need a safety line to go rock climbing? Do you need a helmet to play hockey? Do you need a large secondary containment building around your nuclear reactor?

The answer to all of these is the same: You do if you value your safety.

Nobody plans to crash their car, melt down their nuclear reactor, or shoot themselves in the eye with a laser. It still happens, though, and that's why we have safety devices.

Don't be stupid.

Oh, and by the way, just because your 445 nm 1W doesn't look that bright doesn't mean that it isn't doing damage to your retinas. Not all damage is immediately noticeable, sometimes it takes a while to show up. Also, lasers over 500 mW can cause eye damage from simply looking at the spot on a surface. There does not need to be a direct or reflected beam strike to injure your eyes.
 
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Do you need goggles to use a Class IV laser? Do you need seatbelts to drive in NASCAR? Do you need a safety line to go rock climbing? Do you need a helmet to play hockey? Do you need a large secondary containment building around your nuclear reactor?

The answer to all of these is the same: You do if you value your safety.

Nobody plans to crash their car, melt down their nuclear reactor, or shoot themselves in the eye with a laser. It still happens, though, and that's why we have safety devices.

Don't be stupid.

Oh, and by the way, just because your 445 nm 1W doesn't look that bright doesn't mean that it isn't doing damage to your retinas. Not all damage is immediately noticeable, sometimes it takes a while to show up. Also, lasers over 500 mW can cause eye damage from simply looking at the spot on a surface. There does not need to be a direct or reflected beam strike to injure your eyes.

Nascar =/= lasers lol
 
I know what you're saying, I'm new to this and if i have to wear something that makes the beam invisible, what's the point?

Looking at the beam is not dangerous, but, generally speaking, if you're indoors and playing with the laser you're going to end up glancing at the dot here and there... and therein lies the rub - enough "here and there" can build up, and like everyone is saying, what if for a split second a bounce off a window catches you in the eye?

Yer fucked.

When I play indoors, I have a nice big piece of black velvet hanging on the wall that absorbs enough of the dot that it's not hard to look at.

Outdoors, which is arguably the best place to look at the beam, it's much easier to be safe.
 
or just set the laser in a vice / tri pod that way there is zero chance of it hitting something and then stare at beam.
i love reflecting the beam around my room.
 
I have to say at this point that anyone who has looked at the dot of a 1W, 445nm laser for fleeting moments knows it IS fecking bright! If you're able to look at the dot, (and burn stuff?!!!! WTH? I don't believe this.), your laser is not outputting 1W.

You may be optimistic thinking it is a 1 Watter here Toaster but you should still be wearing goggles for the up close and personal stuff. When you showed interest in the 12x GB, I made a point about eye protection. When you have them, and understand why you do NEED them; then you can buy sleds from me.

M
:)
 
Its ok, Rayfoss aint a ton more and its quicker and its not a GB. Probably not 1W but somewhere close. I don't look at the dot indoors and if I do I know where I am pointing it. There is almost nothing reflective in my house, there is only 2 mirrors in my house. Yeah the light is bright as tits but its not "Instantly blinding"

Ps I was saying that NASCAR can kill you, lasers cant.
 


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