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Lifetime17

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Hi
Criminals and lunatics will always find a way to get firearms and knives.
Now law abiding people that would use them to protect them selves can’t and are at risk

Rich:)
 



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Nothing like fear based marketing. These are a placebo or lucky rabbits foot to make you FEEL safer.
That site is a joke. They do not tell you the protection level of their products. I would not trust my life to anything sold by this company.... ever.
If you are an average person and not doing anything stupid, the chance you will ever be shot is minimal at best. Putting a ballistic panel is your bag is just plain silly.
But, if you feel the compulsion to purchase bullet resistant panels, do so from a reputable source. Do your research and understand what you are buying.
 

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I would bet the psychological damage incurred by some children having to take something like that to school would cause a lot of problems to their sense of security, a huge daily reminder they are not safe among their peers made very real.
 

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Maybe bullet resistant panels will become the new equivalent to knee/elbow pads and a helmet. Although the pads and helmet are far more useful .:crackup:

edited to add: Those school kids are hundreds of time more likely to be killed as a result of teen driving than by catching a bullet. That is what they should really be afraid of.
 
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Put 7+ billion people on one 8 thousand mile diameter planet and crazy shyt happens, our media putting a lens on every event like that places such things in the minds of more and more people to ponder upon doing themselves when misfits.
 

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I would bet the psychological damage incurred by some children having to take something like that to school would cause a lot of problems to their sense of security, a huge daily reminder they are not safe among their peers made very real.
Well put, Alaskan. Baby Boomers had weekly “Duck & Cover” drills practicing how to cower under their school desks in the ‘50s and ‘60s. Look at our leaders today and wonder, “What possibly could go wrong?” :banghead:
Take Care. :D

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Society and civil lifestyle is mostly gone in the world.
Politicians will make laws.
HM
 

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I don't get all the hubbub about murder in London. For a city of nearly 9 million people, three stabbing deaths/week may be sorrowful, but it's far less than gun deaths at most major cities of equal size in the US. Even with NY 1/3 drop in gun deaths it is more than triple the knife deaths in London. Other cities like Chicago fair much worse.
 

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Madmen gun related deaths in America may be sorrowful but they are not even a pimple on the a$$ of smoking related deaths, hospital mistakes resulting in death or abortion deaths.

As for drug dealers and thugs in Chicago, they will kill with or without guns, the numbers you don't hear about are how many Citizens defend their home, their family, and them selves each day with a gun, those numbers are not in the headlines, and no matter how many people are illegally killed it doesn't mean a single mother in a bad neighborhood should be terrorized by criminals nightly because liberals are afraid of tools, it's not the tool, it's the criminal, and gun or not criminals will kill, that's what the hubbub is about.
 
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I was talking about the London murders. If you are going to hold them up as an example of why gun laws are bad, you should at least find something real to compare it to. One hundred and fifty six knife deaths among 9 million people is not that much. That was my point, and it is still valid.
 
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I was talking about the London murders. If you are going to hold them up as an example of why gun laws are bad, you should at least find something real to compare it to. One hundred and fifty six knife deaths among 9 million people is not that much. That was my point, and it is still valid.
If you were held down in the street after being overpowered while thugs stabbed your son to death I bet you would lament not having a gun.

Criminals will run around in gangs feeling invincible once they know that nobody has the ability to shoot them, the most crime happens in gun free zones, why do you think that is paul1598419 ?

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/opinion/2015/10/15/lott-gun-free-zones/74023454/
 
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Yeah, that is always the fallback argument. Wouldn't I want a gun if some gang members raped my father, while my mother watched and if my child were killed would I not want them to be put to death. It is absurd. Trying to link hypothetical horrors to elicit an emotional response is just lazy spurious nonsense. No, I wouldn't want a gun. I would want a cop.
 

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Your chances of getting shot by a madman shooter are extremely low, for most people it simply won't ever happen.

What are your chances that a cop will get there in time if your home is invaded ?

The truth is it's not something that you should have to deal with very often, but it's your choice if you want to be responsible for your own home defense and it's not your choice if I get to be responsible for my home defense.

So how about I respect your freedom of choice and you respect mine ?

No, you want to tell me how I have to live because of your fear of something that's very unlikely, that's hypocritical.

Take a second and really think about the situation, if and it's a huge if, but if guns could be banned altogether except muskets and ball and cap revolvers then of the 350 million guns in this country, who will be left holding guns that have no paper trail, who will not have been a legal gun owner, where will many of the hidden/black market and self made guns end up ?

That's right, in the hands of criminals and hard core patriots, but one group will sit on them until the revolution, the others will be used for crime, the situation would get worse than ever, but it's not going to happen, not overnight, but if it could the result would be super criminals and defenseless citizens with no where near enough cops to save them. But this gun eradication is just not going to happen without a change to our Constitution, and that's not going to happen....maybe in 7 years if there's a Dem POTUS there could be some cosmetic restrictions and magazine round limits, but will that really fix anything ?

It's a nice pipe dream you have paul, a socialism utopia with no God and no guns, no wanting for food, housing or medical, but with the greedy self serving pocket stuffers we have in DC it just won't happen, we are already in too much debt even if we could find hero self sacrificing for the good of all leaders that don't exist.
 
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