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I looked, but I couldn't find it. That's why I said AFAIK. Either way this number is too big.
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I looked, but I couldn't find it. That's why I said AFAIK. Either way this number is too big.
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That's A lot of bullets.
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I'd like to see ISIS try to take on the Chinese, that will be a short effort...
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Meh, polls are the lowest form of data. Is the sample set really representative of the Muslims in these countries? That DOHA poll polled 600 respondents in seven countries and then some Syrian refugees. Do these poll operators even have access to large geographic areas? Is extrapolation really trustworthy?
Also poll questions are rarely neutral or cover the nuances of opinion. Forcing opinion into a small set of opinions that only take binary favor/disfavor answers is going to give a lot of "quantization errors" in the results. There is also the problem with consistency. The polls in the various countries aren't even asking the same thing, and yet the site is making grand conclusions about the populations as a whole.
Sites like ClarionProject also have an agenda to push and are going to choose datasets and emphasize and extrapolate the aspects in those datasets that fit their predefined narrative. Notice how the UAE isn't even in the DOHA poll, and yet ClarionProject is using some poll asking about whether people favor ISIS over other groups in Syria -- some of whom are Iran-backed. Many will choose ISIS simply because they're Sunni.
Finally, we must not ignore the context of these polls and the people who may be responding. The IS seems pretty horrific for those of us in the West simply because we enjoy many freedoms and a rule of law that, despite some problems, generally treats people fairly. Compared to the corrupt governments in many of these Arab countries, IS's strict adherence to the rule of law as laid down in the Koran may seem very attractive. At least then there is rule and law, and also a "divine backing" to call out on leaders and officials.
The view of IS for some of these people can be like the view of communism by revolutionaries trying to throw off the shackles of colonialism. Though people in the West often considered communism anathema, communism was a very big step up from subjugation. Likewise, an IS "caliphate", and the strict law and order they presume to enforce, may be preferable to the thuggery people encounter every day.
Also poll questions are rarely neutral or cover the nuances of opinion. Forcing opinion into a small set of opinions that only take binary favor/disfavor answers is going to give a lot of "quantization errors" in the results. There is also the problem with consistency. The polls in the various countries aren't even asking the same thing, and yet the site is making grand conclusions about the populations as a whole.
Sites like ClarionProject also have an agenda to push and are going to choose datasets and emphasize and extrapolate the aspects in those datasets that fit their predefined narrative. Notice how the UAE isn't even in the DOHA poll, and yet ClarionProject is using some poll asking about whether people favor ISIS over other groups in Syria -- some of whom are Iran-backed. Many will choose ISIS simply because they're Sunni.
Finally, we must not ignore the context of these polls and the people who may be responding. The IS seems pretty horrific for those of us in the West simply because we enjoy many freedoms and a rule of law that, despite some problems, generally treats people fairly. Compared to the corrupt governments in many of these Arab countries, IS's strict adherence to the rule of law as laid down in the Koran may seem very attractive. At least then there is rule and law, and also a "divine backing" to call out on leaders and officials.
The view of IS for some of these people can be like the view of communism by revolutionaries trying to throw off the shackles of colonialism. Though people in the West often considered communism anathema, communism was a very big step up from subjugation. Likewise, an IS "caliphate", and the strict law and order they presume to enforce, may be preferable to the thuggery people encounter every day.
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Everything quiet so far. Works for me!!!
