I was feeling cheated when I read this thread. I got my Atek (that's the acctual company that makes them, not "glowtorch") for $200, and I was cut a deal because I agreed to review it for several laser websites. It seems to me that, for hte msot part, you're going to pay $1 per mw for red lasers... and around $50 per WATT for IR, and $3per mw on DPSS greenies.