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Helping Hands From Body Armour

Andrew124C41

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So, in early Fall of last year with a concern that Mrs. Clinton might be elected and that she push for legislation to ban firearms and body armour, I started to think about what to do should she be elected. Would they make body armour illegal.

I came up with an idea to at least not only camouflage but duel purpose the chest plate for my body armour. We are talking about 1/2 inch thick steel plate. I happened to come upon Helping Hands Instructable and its update Improved

I did not want to use the larger hose so I decided to use my own neo magnet.

What better way to hide my body armour chest plate then use it as the base for a third hand!

At around this time, Bogarté, my retired spook friend, saw a demonstration of a product developed by a joint DARPA Dupont effort called Balatex™..pronounced BAL i tex...accent on BAL. It is a ballistic compound based upon latex.

Bogarté was able to get a hold of some which I used to cover the base of a 3rd Hand which would come to be called Medusa for obvious reasons. In tests, .308 rounds literally bounced off the plate. (I have not had a chance to try .50 yet.) The rubber also prevents the base from slipping when used as a 3rd hand.

The top surface is covered with black paint and then a layer of poured two component epoxy.

I am sorry for the fuzzy picture of the plate.



I am sure people are familiar with the coolant hose.

I put a bolt through the neo magnet into the plug which screws into the first section of hose. I then used two component plumber's epoxy to make a single unit and covered it with black plastidip which prevents it from scratching the paint/epoxy surface of the base.

I used banana jacks 4 mm and epoxied it into the right angle.

The reverse tweezers were the most difficult. I am sorry I could not make a video. I used the smaller female 4 mm jack by cutting off some of the back of the tweezers and embedding it with two components plumber's epoxy and sanding it down.

I use both regular alligators with a 4 mm female and a smaller alligator which plugs into an adapter with a 4 mm female.

This way I can choose which type of holder I need.






The finished product. In practice, I found I could shorten the hose by 4 segments. I also have a larger steel plate should I need more room.

Unless you tell, Mrs. Clinton will never find my body armour chest plate!

Please, don't ask me where to purchase Balatex ™ because I really do not know. Bogarté did not tell me and as I did not ask. I have learned over the years that if she wants to share secrets of her clandestine past with me she will do so on her own.

 



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Pretty neat idea. I know what you mean about the helping hands never being in the right position or taking forever to adjust them properly. I'm guessing you could trade the Balatex, without tell the Hag. (I'm so mean :D ) for a peace of plate steel. Just might cost you a few drill bits. But the idea is quite sound. I used a peace of steel and took two radio shack helping hands and put them together and changed out the clips with different sized ones. Works quite well but a think your idea would work even better. You got some really fancy clips there also. Well done! :gj:
 

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So is this a joke--1/2" sreel is too heavy, 20.42 lbs per sq ft., for body armor and why would anyone need to hide a piece of steel for any reason anyway---steel is steel?

Balatex has nothing to do with Dupont and is made by a Netherlands company BN Covermaterials--is cotton or viscose covering materials
"Balatex provides that extra accent whenever ‘environmental awareness’ is the desired effect, whether it involves books, photo albums, menus, diaries, binders, luxury packaging and so on." from Balatex web page: Balatex - BN Covermaterials

I think you have been exposed to too many DC Beltway nut case types. :crackup:

3rd hand looks OK/good if you don't need stronger or more stable and need a lot of clip held wires.
 
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So is this a joke--1/2" sreel is too heavy, 20.42 lbs per sq ft., for body armor and why would anyone need to hide a piece of steel for any reason anyway---steel is steel?

Balatax has nothig to do with Dupont and is made by a Netherlands company BN Covermaterials--is cotton or viscose covering materials
"Balatex provides that extra accent whenever ‘environmental awareness’ is the desired effect, whether it involves books, photo albums, menus, diaries, binders, luxury packaging and so on." from Balatex web page: Balatex - BN Covermaterials

I think you have been expose to too many DC Beltway nut case types. :crackup:

3rd hand looks OK/good if you don't need stronger or more stable and need a lot of clip held wires.
OK, you got me. I should have Google Balatex, a word which I thought I had just made up...I mean who would have known.

Its not the influence of Beltway Bandits....genetics...what would you expect form a grandson of Hugo Gernsback. Being whimsical is either a blessing or a curse.

Additionally, Bogarté shares some responsibility. You guys don't believe me! Go to Facebook, search Bogie B. Bogarte (no é,) go to About, then details about you. Her bio is there. Don't forget the photo albums. They are precious.
 

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Hi,
You can buy trauma plates nearly any where if you google them . And they don't have to be 1/2 steel there are other options that will defect a large range of incoming. Gun shows have the best deals around.

Rich:)
 

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Hi,
You can buy trauma plates nearly any where if you google them . And they don't have to be 1/2 steel there are other options that will defect a large range of incoming. Gun shows have the best deals around.

Rich:)
OK, I give up. It was a joke...although the helping hands are real.
 

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So is this a joke--1/2" sreel is too heavy, 20.42 lbs per sq ft., for body armor and why would anyone need to hide a piece of steel for any reason anyway---steel is steel?

I think you have been exposed to too many DC Beltway nut case types. :crackup:
Yeah.... If that were the case I would need to hide
all the raw metal plates and anything else that
could possibly be used to slow down bullets... that
I have in the Shop and Garages...:whistle:

Jerry
 

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I suspect everyone missed the salient point here. All of you know that there are Democrats who are making a big push for one serious gun grab. Back in the 80s when I got into the Title II stuff there developed a whole lot of anxiety that ATF would classify just about any part that might be used in a Title II item as illegal. Things like silencer parts for instance.

So, I was trying to show the stupidity of all of it. There has been talk about making body armour illegal for civilians. So, it is all that not far fetched that a steel plate say found within 3 feet of body armour would be considered illegal. Sure, it sounds absolutely off the wall. However, back in 1987, armed FDA agents raided the offices of a company I worked for back in the 90s, the Life Extension Foundation. They came in guns drawn to raid the clinic of a colleague of mine, Dr. Jonathan Wright in 1992. Were they going after illegal firearms or drugs? No, they raided them for felonious possession of vitamins. I am not kidding and they were not the only ones.

The Waco affair was over a pair of shotguns that an undercover ATF agent asked Koresh to shorten for him. The difference between a ten year sentence and 10 K fine for this is a set of fingerprints along with $5 for the tax stamp. It was a typical entrapment sting.

I hope this clarifies my attempt at at some whimsical humor.
 

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