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Has NASA's Kepler space telescope discovered an Alien Megastructure?

Guys there is a reason the moderators have allowed the religious thread to continue. So it doesn't happen in other threads. It would be best to move that conversation there. Maybe even copy paste your replies and delete them so more people do not keep replying. This is a passionate topic and could spin out of fast. Just a suggestion.
 





Teej said:
Good point....I think when the idea of aliens popped up, the idea about the implications of aliens popped up with it...so, technically, its the same thread as this one...just from an exo-perspective.
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Would you mind explaining the implications of aliens, I don't see how it's much different than finding another species here on earth, However as I stated before I might believe we are an accident if we were the only intelligent life, I hope we can find out for sure in my lifetime, but I am reasonably confident that I have seen some good convincing evidence twice in my lifetime.

Alan
 
The more I ponder about it the more I believe it is just a massive chunk of rock/matter and not alien built. The core of it may be cool enough so that gravity is not able to "round" it out. To detect something that far away and to tell it is not round means that it is very, very large and I just don't believe something of that size could be built. Even by an advanced species. Would be really cool though if it was.
 
Is everyone here so blind to see that the articles linked are from absolute trash papers like. The Globe is a rag that shows pics of Clinton hand in hand with aliens. These sources are total trash rags.
An anomaly was detected. Trash rags are running with it to sell papers and smart people here haven't taken the 2 seconds it would require to reference the source.
Yes I believe other life is out there. Am I going to accept any crap in front of me on the Internet as reason to even to confirm such. No.
 
Laser Chick said:
Not blind and definitely not the Globe!
Has Kepler Discovered an Alien Megastructure? : Discovery News
Forbes Welcome
The story behind 'alien megastructures' scientists may have found (but probably didn't) - CNET
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Do you think the cited publocation The Examiner is any more credible? Or Discovery news, the same company that produces Ancient Aliens absurdity. The show that claims Lepricons are real. Are you kidding me? And if anyone actually rEad their web article, it's was 98% about what Kepler's mission is, and IF it would be possible to detect alien structures. NOT, that it may have or did.
And the next cited source the Examiner's next article after this alien structure, was about a Pembroke Welsh Corgi DOG, trying to rouse a fight with a pumpkin. Need I say more?

Anomalies occur they simply mean, we don't know what it is. Wild speculation about alien sup structures as an explanation of the anomaly, although a possibility, is one of millions more likely and less sensational.

Does the Face on Mars ring any bells? That the probability that a land
mass formed the vauge shape of a face on the planet was just skipped passed over for the sensational trash rag reporting of it being an alien sculpture. how is this any different?

I am all for the inevitable discovery of advanced life but not by sensationalist crap like this anomaly is stirring. It's no different than countless other anomlies we have seen in nature that if you spent 10 min researching actual credible, sources you would realize how drummed up this whole things is.

I.e., The space craft sucking energy from the sun, ext, was an phenomenon that was elementary to any actual cosmologist as a very normal magnetic gravitational happening that appears to look like an "alien disc" sucking energy from the sun.

You guys really want to find evidence, stop looking in rags or some unknown un acredited website. Stop believing any source that has a website and some impressive looking name as reliable. Check them out first.
 
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Teej said:
Good point....I think when the idea of aliens popped up, the idea about the implications of aliens popped up with it...so, technically, its the same thread as this one...just from an exo-perspective.
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Sorry to double post I'm on a tablet and it's won't let me copy past to add this to my previous reply.
It is a good point of discussion, one naturally progressed in topic but maybe split off the, implications of a God regarding finding advanced life, to thE Religion thread. All I'm saying.
 
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Pi R Squared said:
Would you mind explaining the implications of aliens, I don't see how it's much different than finding another species here on earth, However as I stated before I might believe we are an accident if we were the only intelligent life, I hope we can find out for sure in my lifetime, but I am reasonably confident that I have seen some good convincing evidence twice in my lifetime.

Alan
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LOL

Unfortunately, the post where I said exactly what you are saying was deleted.

In a nut shell, yes, finding life on another planet would be the same, from a "belief viewpoint", the same as finding a new species on earth...and that finding, or not finding life on other planets doesn't change how we got here.

I also explained that "accident" is not a good way to think of how we got here, any more than thinking sugar accidentally dissolves in water, its just what sugar does, etc.

We see that spacetime yields energy/matter, and that these things combine eventually to form the periodic table, and so forth...its just what THEY do.

So, this thing blocking the light in front of that star periodically might not be round, but, that doesn't mean its one object, or a series of objects that block the light as they go around the planet...the way the shadow of a school of fish can look like the shadow of a whale, etc.

Its simply premature to go to "alien structure" from "shadow".

:D
 
Pi R Squared said:
Would you mind explaining the implications of aliens, I don't see how it's much different than finding another species here on earth, However as I stated before I might believe we are an accident if we were the only intelligent life, I hope we can find out for sure in my lifetime, but I am reasonably confident that I have seen some good convincing evidence twice in my lifetime.

Alan
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Not to throw more fuel to the fire but Pi, Apex, hope all is well between you two mabey my bad. To get back on the subject Pi you mentioned we may be an accident, im with you on that as far as I know there were no humans or any 2 legged walking creatures when the dinnasours roamed so if the meteor that wiped them out never happend would earth still only have them roaming. After the ashes cleared every element of life had to be in perfect harmony to form humans and all other animals that are so important, so this is how I see the accident theory. It boggles the mind how on a other life giving planet how the elements came together and what beings might look like.
 
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While carrying a plastic scented bag with me on dog walks it would appear dogs are the dominant species. :)
 
Davidx said:
While carrying a plastic scented bag with me on dog walks it would appear dogs are the dominant species. :)
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I mean if you are going to the trouble to get a scented bag, why would you want it scented like plastic? I'd go for a rose smell or something.

Anyway on topic: over 150,000 stars were viewed. THIS is the only one like it. I'm not saying it's Aliens but.... It's Aliens. In all seriousness I don't understand how this doesn't make SETI's highest priority list. IF you have a target why not go for it. As far as I know they are just shooting into the dark anyway. I know they plan to use smaller dishes first and then possibly use the array. It just seems to me like this would take priority.
 
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Trendkilla254 said:
I mean if you are going to the trouble to get a scented bag, why would you want it scented like plastic? I'd go for a rose smell or something.

Anyway on topic: over 150,000 stars were viewed. THIS is the only one like it. I'm not saying it's Aliens but.... It's Aliens. In all seriousness I don't understand how this doesn't make SETI's highest priority list. IF you have a target why not go for it. As far as I know they are just shooting into the dark anyway. I know they plan to use smaller dishes first and then possibly use the array. It just seems to me like this would take priority.
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SETI is targeting that star according to one of those links so who knows how true that is. You could probably verify that pretty easily doing a search.
I wish the anomaly is an alien structure but my point is that that is probably not the case. If anyone has read more credible sources you would see that.
 
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I am sure everyone knows about the Vatican's Project Lucifer, the most expensive telescope ever made sitting atop Mr. Graham in AZ. According to the book Exo-Vaticana: Petrus Romanus, Project LUCIFER, and the Vatican's astonishing plan for the arrival of an alien savior" the telescope is being used to look for alien life. According to one of the authors, "...that very soon the nations of the world are going to look to the aliens for their salvation."

Project Lucifer Project

Additionally, we all know that the earth is hollow. How else did Hitler get his advanced technology:

Has anyone seen a Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon?
Why did Armstrong look so depressed at the only news conference he ever gave, right after the mission?

Anyone hear his recent cryptic remarks to some school children at the White House?
 
SETI will be looking at that star beginning in January. It should be an immediate priority but all the radio telescopes in the world are always busy, you have to write a proposal and request time on it and get on the waiting list.

I do know about the LUCIFER telescope, I have heard a lot about it. I think I know what they are looking for, and I don't think the article has it right. This isn't the place to talk about it though as it will bring religion back into this thread. Post about it in the Religion thread if you want.

Neil Armstrong didn't say anything recently, he passed away more than 3 years ago. Maybe you are thinking of another astronaut.

The last 3 times now that I have clicked on a YouTube video here it was an hour or more long, I wish people would post shorter videos, how many of us do you think are going to take the time to watch the full video if it's more than a few minutes?

Alan
 
Pi R Squared said:
SETI will be looking at that star beginning in January. It should be an immediate priority but all the radio telescopes in the world are always busy, you have to write a proposal and request time on it and get on the waiting list.

I do know about the LUCIFER telescope, I have heard a lot about it. I think I know what they are looking for, and I don't think the article has it right. This isn't the place to talk about it though as it will bring religion back into this thread. Post about it in the Religion thread if you want.

Neil Armstrong didn't say anything recently, he passed away more than 3 years ago. Maybe you are thinking of another astronaut.

The last 3 times now that I have clicked on a YouTube video here it was an hour or more long, I wish people would post shorter videos, how many of us do you think are going to take the time to watch the full video if it's more than a few minutes?

Alan
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Alan,

Yes, I know he passed away. I should have said "relatively recently." I have to find it, one of the last things he said of import before he died taking his secret with him.

I also know what you are referring to with respect to LUCIFER but chose to stay off that topic here or in the Religion thread because I like to keep my manner more whimsical rather than controversial. Not that I do not get into heated passionate debates. It is just not why I am here.

As for the video. I guess I am guilty as charged. I watch them.;)

I am semi-retired and the bulk of my time is dealing with my grandfather's legacy projects. So, an hour of diversion once in awhile is nice!
 
Pi R Squared said:
SETI will be looking at that star beginning in January. It should be an immediate priority but all the radio telescopes in the world are always busy, you have to write a proposal and request time on it and get on the waiting list.

I do know about the LUCIFER telescope, I have heard a lot about it. I think I know what they are looking for, and I don't think the article has it right. This isn't the place to talk about it though as it will bring religion back into this thread. Post about it in the Religion thread if you want.

Neil Armstrong didn't say anything recently, he passed away more than 3 years ago. Maybe you are thinking of another astronaut.

The last 3 times now that I have clicked on a YouTube video here it was an hour or more long, I wish people would post shorter videos, how many of us do you think are going to take the time to watch the full video if it's more than a few minutes?

Alan
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quoted and replied in Religion thread.
 
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