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FrozenGate by Avery

Computer spec's

Haha like all big things, it is often the little/overlooked parts that matter most :) Honestly how many people talk about a good PSU when building a computer? Alot of people seriously overlook it :eg:
 





One time, I literally walked out of a room for a moment (about 10 minutes) to talk to someone and when I came back the PSU in my shitty work computer had fried all the components in the machine. Remarkably, I had backed up the machine some time earlier, so it wasn't a complete loss (work-wise), but I still had to recreate quite a bit of work because hard drive recovery would've cost too much.

So at least get a decent brand of PSU. Even an Fortron Source Power Group (FSP Group) OEM brand will at least ensure that your system won't die due to low-quality manufacturing.
 
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I was plagued by problems for months with my PC, I suspected everything from the GPU, RAM and mobo. I'd have random freezing and bluescreens, sometimes just hard shutdowns.

Tested the PSU voltages, all good. Put some extra load on it, all good.

I eventually just replaced the PSU for good measure, haven't had an issue since. If your computer is randomly playing up, suspect the PSU!
 
Especially in this "Great" Australian heat that we have to enjoy *cough endure*
 
My theory is that filtering in the PSU may have degraded to the point where a high load would cause some components to fail due to unstable power rails. All the voltages tested fine, but there was obviously an issue! Might have a look at it on the scope one day, but didn't have one on me at the time :(
 
Yup, for the price of a new PSU I couldn't be bothered replacing them, from my past of ripping apart many computer PSU's, they love to pour goop all over the output caps :D
 
Oh, I hate that! That is one of my pet peeves. The only thing worse is ect. What is ect?

And MagnaMagicBtu, what is up with the threadjacking?
 
Gamer, i use meyhems aurora coolant, specifically designed for computers and the more sensitive metals (copper) that are affected by anti freeze. Im in it for the aesthetics IE i dont want a massive rad outside my computer. And push pull on a big rad (or little rad) is a waste of money. You don't see real world temp changes.
 
It comes down to preference i personally would never have and external rad and my two rads have fill ports so i have three resivoirs (technically). plus, if you were to compare aesthetics... there is no competition.
 
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I was plagued by problems for months with my PC, I suspected everything from the GPU, RAM and mobo. I'd have random freezing and bluescreens, sometimes just hard shutdowns.

Tested the PSU voltages, all good. Put some extra load on it, all good.

I eventually just replaced the PSU for good measure, haven't had an issue since. If your computer is randomly playing up, suspect the PSU!
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It could've been the power saving too. Sometimes those power transitions cause "brownouts" or at least extra noise. On my old board I had to disable power savings modes on one CPU because it would cause annoying ringing in the decoupling circuitry on the motherboard. On some older Corsair board even the tiniest brownout at the power mains (like a printer starting up) would cause it to restart the machine which prompted me to replace that PSU after too many incidents.

The power quality does matter too! A lot of motherboards now have multiphase circuitry to smooth out the power to the CPU for better overclocking. For GPUs they're so power-hungry these days that they're also powered by external connectors, not just from the motherboard where some additional filtering may fix things.
 
I have a heater core out of a Mac truck sitting around for a possible liquid cooling setup. It seems like
another good option for a rad.
 
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I guess I'm the only one here who doesn't like liquid cooling...

It seems like so much effort to set up and maintain. I would rather just have a full ATX case loaded with a ton of fans.
 
Blarg: I'm the same way, but maybe my experiences are colored by my experiences attempting it back with my old Athlon 64. It was expensive, non-portable, overall a pain back then and severely delayed my later upgrades because it was a pain to swap out components. It was realllly quiet though which I loved.

Nowadays there are some pretty nice kits that make the process a lot easier. Plus there are cases that are built to hold all the components. Still, air cooling is also much better these days and processors are very overclockable even on stock coolers. So I stick with air cooling because it gets me where I need to go. The air-cooling fans on my case and CPU are actually very quiet as well, so I don't feel compelled to have to use water cooling to reduce noise.
 
I agree. I don't like the idea of water inside my computer. Liquid cooling is for things that really need it, like cars, TIG torches, and induction heaters.
 
I also don't like having to change the coolant every year. It's enough of a pain I have to do it on my car.
Antifreeze isn't cheap either. Forget to change it and it becomes changing the rad instead.
 
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