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Holy $h!t storm, Batman!

I do not deny the possibility of most things.

Who'd have thunk the desire for empirical data would cause such a fuss.

It's interesting how such requests send the indoctrinated into such a tizzy.
Such is life.

Carry on, ladies and gentlemen.
 

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It's hard to convince others that things occurring inside your mind constitute evidence. If I'm not mistaken this is the scientific method:

Formulation of a question, Hypothesis, prediction, testing, analysis, peer review.
 

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I live next to Melbourne airport, however I do not intend to use lasers either visible or invisible near my area. Thankfully, I am not in the habit of pointing any lasers at aircraft domestic or foreign, I have seen too many irresponsible people ruining it for others by doing silly things. One of my most favoured pieces of equipment is the Pulsar Recon x550- I am not permitted to use gen3 or gen4 tubes in my country at this time. I currently have a multi-cam setup with recording facilities that enables me capture the same footage simultaneously but through different equipment. Through the x550, lifeforms that actually live and operate in infra-red become visible, and through the HD equipment nothing is visible (without ir passthrough or switch mod). By combining the footage captured simultaneously, I can illustrate how it is possible for lifeforms to be sharing the same space despite the fact it cannot be seen with the naked eye- much in the same way as radio station frequencies share the same space with other individual signals that operate obliviously to one another, or to a greater degree, how the human eye apparently cannot perceive fast moving/oscillating objects above a certain fps.

Similarly, due to limitations of the human eye in that it can only perceive part of the electromagnetic spectrum, it is difficult to observe life forms that operate above our range of awareness without the use of special equipment. A man by the name of Jose Escamilla has documented lifeforms operating in infra-red and anybody can follow suit by modifying sony nightshot camcorders with ir mods to allow ONLY ir to be seen. Will anybody be intrigued enough to go out and discover this for themselves? probably not, skeptics don't usually set off to prove themselves wrong. If an idea is rejected it is rejected until somebody they respect shows them otherwise.

Wolfman one the potential problems is that you're basing your statements on what mainstream science has reported. Even you are under the impression that et lifeforms would have to travel in the same way humans do to get from point a to point b. Distance is not a factor and is at this stage irrelevant because there is so much of the spectrum that you can't see, that the first place you should be looking is right in front of your eyes in the evening sky. It is not empty space. far from it. nobody needs to do any hardcore mathematical equations to see what is plainly there if only your eyes could see it. Since we are limited at this stage, we rely on technology to do the seeing for us. I invite you to take the time to look into this a little more if it interests you.

Consider mars for example. There's nobody on the planet besides majestic members that has the ability to see life on mars. Let's assume nasa isn't lying and it really is a barren planet. How do you know for sure that mars (M'ares real name) isn't teeming with life in a spectrum that you cannot perceive??? what equipment do you possess that can tell you for sure? So you see, the majority of information available is just regurgitated information and even that is based on filtered data that you are "not allowed" to know. Blame the masons or the illuminati if you must.
So the point you made about ET being that far away and needing to solve the problem of travel due to distance in light years really is a hypothetical argument that is based primarily around the assumption that ET would travel in the same way we would. It's a paradigm shift in understanding, considering that there are several energies that travel faster than light. These are Ultra-violet, X-ray, Gamma, Zero-point and also Gravity, notice that light cannot escape a black hole but there is something that does escape a black hole- and that is gravity. And of course, Thought. Thought is infinitely faster than light- it is instantaneous and operates on zero point energy (we know this to be the grid which connects all life forms together as one mind, hence telepathy. hence bio-location. hence faster than light travel).

The university of Stanford in conjunction with doctor Steven Greer and the disclosure project are currently in the process of building their own anti-gravity based on information that was previously (and in many ways still is) suppressed by the powers that be. They have currently managed to remove 7% of the effects of gravity, in an effort to achieve levitation and bring these free energy technologies to the fore for humanity's benefit. Truth be told, ET antigravity technology works on thought. The first thing they discovered and removed from downed crafts was the Biological seat, in fact that was one of the only things of interest due to the fact that they realized the entire craft could only be piloted with the instructions of thought. So in other words, there are no joysticks of steering columns, only a biological interface that connects the brain to the craft. In this mode, they did away with any kind of avionics because their own brains was already far more advanced than any device they could produce. In the context of ET being fired upon by humans, Psychometric radar for example would operate on energies that also run through the human brain (as the total number of minds in the universe is ONE), so one's intention to fire at ET is transmitted instantaneously through thought. ET therefore would possess the ability to anticipate Intentions before electrical signals from the attacker's brain (using lightwaves through the nervous system) could reach their fingers to pull the trigger.

Please take a look at "Superconducting Magnetic Levitation (MagLev) on a Magnetic Track" found here: Superconducting Magnetic Levitation (MagLev) on a Magnetic Track - YouTube

Antigravity has already been achieved by humans on a small scale my friend. Replace the magnetic track with the magnetic field around the earth, and you have the ability to circumvent the effects of known physical laws. Including gravity. Gravity can be controlled. 360 degree travel is now possible using free energy out of thin air. Even tesla knew this information, and could send power wirelessly using the abundant energies available in the very empty space around you.

This discovery serves as the critical link between what religion has been hiding about the nature of God and tangible, scientific fact. You are the science, in fact, if you were to do a study of the human brain during certain sleep cycles (whereby the brain works faster than in waking hours), and if you correlate this information with the resonate frequencies of earth, you would discover that the figures are identical. the magnetic field around the human body can be controlled via your own thoughts. I knew there was truth to the story of the levitating Buddha. I can give you my personal method for how to achieve an out of body experience, whereby you operate on pure thought in a faster time and outside of the framework of physical laws. Have you ever drifted off to sleep, and had what seemed to be a LONG dream, only to wake up and realise that only 2 minutes have passed? that's a clue.

To say communications between ET and humans is impossible has to be a statement well redundant at this point. The study of the human brain will unlock the answers to long-range communication. Also, if you study quantum mechanics, you would know that it is possible for the exact same thing to occur in different places in time-space simultaneously. You need only to understand how the human brain communicates electrically with magnetic flux to find all the answers of ET communications. Little do most people know, that if I shine a laser in the night sky, I am already communicating with entities that are considered ET that are within our atmosphere (look up UFO RODS). Just because the human eye cannot see in infra red, or xray doesn't mean lifeforms operating on that energy don't exist, which btw, are not just energies but once you are ALSO vibrating to that wavelength, actually becomes an infinite reality in the same way that we look into an infinite cosmos in the physical hertzian realm. Notice how the SUN is producing all these energies that scientists "think" are harmful to us. They are, but only because you are not resonating at the same wavelength in order to be part of that world. So, if scientists agree that these energies are the building blocks to new planet formations and what have you, then one could deduce that these energies are actually creating realities or parallel universes that can be populated.

If UFO's "de-Materialise" out of this physical world and into the next, which btw has been documented quite thoroughly, then the question remains, where are they dematerialising to??? and the answer is, to another spectrum or wavelength that you cannot perceive. So, if somebody fires a bullet at an ET craft, it will dematerialise into another reality in order for the bullet not to have any effect. As a matter of fact, you'd think its gone away somewhere, when in fact it is still there looking at you, just from another wavelength. Again, they do possess the ability to perceive the entire electromagnetic spectrum. Light beings (Orbs), or 3rd level beings, can perceive infra red and the entire hertzian band.

If only a person would not be frightened by the prospect of meeting ET lifeforms, they would surely discover that communications is already taking place, and is possible to communicate further. it's just that the closed-minded individual that operates on doubt prevents 2-way communication. Sorry to scare you, but they can hear your thoughts. And they know who is ready for the experience and who isn't. At such a critical point in our evolution, it is important not to do any extra damage by forcing any kind of contact. For the person that is not capable of enjoying the experience, will not attract the experience. It is only through gradual exposure with several "small occurrences" does a human begin to shed doubt and become more open to the prospect of full contact. They are there to nurture our evolution, not to interfere by forcing an experience upon somebody that may very well react in a way that is counter productive to the disclosure movement.

As for wormholes, they exist as large bodies and also microscopically in the very space around you. I can vouch due to my own knowledge regarding out of body experiences, that the "tunnel" that is seen before exiting the physical body is in fact a wormhole to another dimension. Yet, its difficult to prove that without giving instructions for the person to experience it for themselves. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Try telling a scientist that has evolved to a "standard research methodology" that the evidence exists within him. He will look at you and laugh, because his area of study is of the external, and thus they need to see tangible evidence in the external. As a result of so many years studying in the wrong direction while developing skillsets in other areas, there has been no time for these scientists to take a break, do some meditation and discover for themselves that the God particle exists within them. And can be controlled at will.

This is why you have establishments such as the "illuminati" or, the illuminated ones (that can see in the dark i.e. see spectrums that are invisible to others). Secret societies have been practicing what others would call impossible for centuries. Ordo templi orientis, order of the golden dawn, ordo aurum solis, and others, practice mind over matter on a daily basis and this is why every war is religious-based. They do not want this information to come out because the entire monetary system and methods of enslaving the masses would fall apart. Religion is false until it recognises the God within you, and then it becomes science.

Does this make sense?
 
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Yes, I accidently pos-repped OP..big deal. Let him have it. It's the only positive thing he's going to get out of this thread.

It's not that I think the OP is an idiot. I just think his entire premise is horribly flawed.

Let's assume that aliens do exist. Let's assume those aliens would even care to communicate with a species as immature and self-destructive as ours. Now, let us assume that these aliens are even monitoring EM transmissions, emanating from our planet.

For what possible reason, with thousands of transmissions, leaving the planet, and the aliens heretofore ignoring us, would they have any interest whatsoever in a tiny, weak IR signal from a handheld from some neck-bearding, basement-borne troglodyte?


Really, this is a serious question...give me one, just one single reason, for them to communicate with Dave.
Cant Rep you but this sums up my feelings. I'm 100% sure ET exists. Most people don't understand the vastness of space. Its almost mathematically impossible for something else not to exist. That being said. We are too self-destructive to be taken serious on an intergalactic level.

My drunk input for the night :)

Speedy
 

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Thank you for the post Dave1 :beer: I was pretty intrigued by the idea of other bands of the spectrum revealing UFO's, when I first came across the idea. Expanding on that with Tesla and different "resonate" frequencies of existence is fascinating.

Ancient writings including the Vedas all outline principles and ideas that modern physics and quantum mechanics are only now beginning to grasp.

As with all new ways of thought, the "world" is resistant to change. Hope to one day see some of your research and results.

~ LB
 

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Thanks Lazerbeak and you're welcome :)

Yes it is quite fascinating :) I will be sure to keep you posted with any further developments.

Cheers!

Dave
 

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Dude you a spewing miles of pseudoscience and flat wrong statements. You a freaking delusional. And I didn't even read half of your post.

I was going to quote some things out of your post that were wrong but I'm on my phone and its really late so maybe tomorrow. You really need to slow down and reread your post a few times. Almost every "fact" you state is wrong.

I will take the time to quote this:

" It's a paradigm shift in understanding, considering that there are several energies that travel faster than light. These are Ultra-violet, X-ray, Gamma, Zero-point and also Gravity, notice that light cannot escape a black hole but there is something that does escape a black hole- and that is gravity. And of course, Thought. Thought is infinitely faster than light- it is instantaneous and operates on zero point energy (we know this to be the grid which connects all life forms together as one mind, hence telepathy. hence bio-location. hence faster than light travel)."

That is how far I made it in your above post before I had to stop reading because I could feel myself becoming more stupid the further I read.

Gravity is a force of attraction, it isnt something that travels. And how would you know its speed if it did?

You then listed some forms of light as things that travel faster than light...

And thought is definitely not faster than light. Orders of magnitude slower actually. Do you understand that brains work by sending electric signals between neurons? Not magic invisible brain force energy.

The last part is also flat out wrong, but even if it wasn't that still wouldn't prove faster than light travel.

If you truly believe what is started in that quote and the rest of your post then i'm sorry but you are simply too far gone to help.

Many other blaring mistakes made in just the few paragraphs I read, but I dont have time to quote it line by line explaining.
 
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Dude you a spewing miles of pseudoscience and flat wrong statements. You a freaking delusional. And I didn't even read half of your post.

I was going to quote some things out of your post that were wrong but I'm on my phone and its really late so maybe tomorrow. You really need to slow down and reread your post a few times. Almost every "fact" you state is wrong.

I will take the time to quote this:

" It's a paradigm shift in understanding, considering that there are several energies that travel faster than light. These are Ultra-violet, X-ray, Gamma, Zero-point and also Gravity, notice that light cannot escape a black hole but there is something that does escape a black hole- and that is gravity. And of course, Thought. Thought is infinitely faster than light- it is instantaneous and operates on zero point energy (we know this to be the grid which connects all life forms together as one mind, hence telepathy. hence bio-location. hence faster than light travel)."

That is how far I made it in your above post before I had to stop reading because I could feel myself becoming more stupid the further I read.

Gravity is a force of attraction, it isnt something that travels. And how would you know its speed if it did?

You then listed done for of light as things that travel faster than light...

And thought is definitely not faster than light. Orders of magnitude slower actually. Do you understand that brains work by sending electric signals between neurons? Not magic invisible brain force energy.

The last part is also flat out wrong, but even if it wasn't that still wouldn't prove faster than light travel.

If you truly believe what is started in that quote and the rest of your post then i'm sorry but you are simply too far gone to help.

Many other blaring mistakes made in just the few paragraphs I read, but I dont have time to quote it line by line explaining.
You bothered to write a conclusion but didn't bother to read the material. Sounds like you are the pseudoscientist.

Thought is not faster than light? no wonder the lightbulbs aren't going off in your head lol. just teasing.

Seriously though, have you ever observed a blackhole? and have you noticed what spills out from the sides? it is gravity. To say that thought is not instantaneous is to claim that your brain is not more advanced that the laser pointer you hold in your hand.

See you tomorrow.
 

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BTW, here's several witnesses out of the US military that are testifying to the existence of ET. Now tell me, if they really don't exist, why would they make false statements. Its not like theres anything to gain from claiming theres a pink elephant in the room when in fact there isn't one.

U.F.O DISCLOSURE PROJECT -FULL VERSION - YouTube

This was found in the Atacama desert in chile.

Atacama Humanoid | Sirius Disclosure

you might want to spend 9.95 to purchase the SIRIUS documentary. Excellent stuff.

happy viewing :)
 

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Any man who could make it through that huge sh*tstorm and not come out as a vegetable is a great man than I. I only replied to a specific portion I read.

I suppose you observe black holes all the time? Lol yeah that gravity just pours out.

Like I said gravity is a force and in theory it occurs from the high density of a black hole.

You speak like you are some almighty and allknowing being. You've been everywhere, seen everything. You don't need evidence.

Like I said before thought is simply the electrical interaction between neurons. It is not faster than light because 1. Electricity is not faster than light. 2. There is delay in the neurons. 3. Thought and light cant even be directly compared since thought would be measured in time and light measured in velocity.
 

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your idea of gravity is flawed because you're experiencing it within a gravitational field. You expect it to always be used as a force of attraction. that is completely false because anti-gravity is in essence, a manipulation to REPEL gravity. Hence the "anti"

If you observe a twister in formation, would it be that far fetched to say that some air escapes around the sides, as the air is being thrown about the edges? Or does the vacuum not permit for air to be thrown about? Ever wonder how houses are THROWN about with the same force that ripped it apart to begin with?

why would it be any different with a black hole? given it's not air, but the same thing still occurs. You should watch some clear footage of a black hole very closely.

No, I don't witness black holes all the time, but I can understand the principles of it. The reason why gravity escapes the wormhole is because it's own force of gravity is strong enough to "eject" some of its own energy. To refute this is to claim that gravity itself is unable to direct it's own force as it sees fit and, to claim that there is no practical reason for a black hole and that somehow they are just pointless creations. We already know black holes are portals, or shortcuts, to other areas of space. Given that, if a traveller were to come through it (protected from the crushing force of gravity with its own "anti-gravity" field around it), its own force (gravity) would be responsible for the actual "thrust" to push the object through the other side and that my friend, is faster that light travel because if gravity can escape a black hole, it surely must be superior to the speed of light. Why do you think its suction is so great? Because it's designed to push you out the other side. Nobody has been game to go through one (in space), not because they haven't worked out how to beat the crushing force of gravity, but because they don't know where it will lead and whether it is a straight forward task to simply go through it again to arrive where they started.

Do you really need evidence in this case for something that can be easily observed? Just remember the information you have is based upon what scientists themselves understand about it. If they don't know. You won't know... until you do your own research into how it applies to you with the limited education that the system provides to those that don't come from royal bloodlines or have cash stacked up to the moon. that's why I'm fighting for disclosure. Not just for me, but for the world. That's a noble cause that unfortunately won't ever be met with gratitude by those that still think their governments loves them enough to tell them the truth. I don't think i'm special, it's not about winning an argument with you its about discussing ideas in general within a scientific community, even if we don't wear fancy badges with credentials. Until your profession is somehow related in that you bring YOUR OWN info to the table, this chat will go nowhere. the point of this is to report what we have personally discovered. It's then your job to take it and do an experiment in which you can prove it wrong. Since you've never experienced dimensional travel, I find it disturbing to think that your 3rd hand information is somehow more legitimate than my own experiences. let's say scientists don't fully understand black holes, are you going to sit there and claim that anything someone else has to say is wrong when the info you have isn't up the scratch either? What we know is that the suction of a black hole can be reversed, not by any artificial means but via it's own mechanism and design- that is its function because a portal is usually 2 WAY.

Just food for thought, but in the very fact that we are able to, with our limited understanding of the universe, measure the speed of light and yet witness light unable to escape a black hole, suggests that there IS SOMETHING FASTER THAN LIGHT. And that is whatever force is responsible for the black hole in the first place. Gravity. There isn't even a need to argue that gravity is faster because it's already common knowledge that light cannot escape a black hole.

Dinner time :)
 
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Yes, exactly. Healthy food. not the food Monsanto pushes through regular channels ;-)
 
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Am i the only one here who actually believes this stuff?
Not all of it but alot of it... like the whole wormhole idea and the idea of lifeforms living in another spectrum of light for example..

Perhaps i believe because i to have personal experiences in which i saw actual ufo's...
To me everything is possible until proven impossible and so far i haven't seen anyone post any prove that what dave says is false.... infact i only seen him post prove that he is right! Like the NASA footage... how can you argue about that if even NASA admits it?
 




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