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FrozenGate by Avery

1 watt green handheld unit

Sorry to clarify: this particular unit (with the 3W diode) is a 725mw model... however he also can produce a 1000mw unit, but not sure what diode that one uses.

Does 725mw sound pretty close for a 3W diode?
 





You're talking about 25% efficiency their my rpl 450 with the diode running at 2W because it's an under driven 2.5W diode only has an efficiency of 22.5% now given it peaks at 581 giving it a 29% efficiency peak and 22.5% efficiency average.... say you manage to get the same very high quality crystals with a 3W diode you should achieve 725 occasionally
 
It's most likely the total output without an IR filter. While I have seen crystals with nearly a 50% effieciency in very rare cases, in general they are ~20%. The rare cases certainly do not allow for a retail production model to be sold in any quantity either.

It would be neat to see one of these tested. However seems like yet another scam. Laser devices tend to be one of the most scamed items, esepcially on E-Bay...er E-Pray...
 
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That laser pointer with the 3W pump has been brought up on Photonlexicon a few times, and people have reported/contacted the seller, but he just keeps re listing it and flaming people who contact him about it.

DO NOT buy from this seller.
 
Things said:
That laser pointer with the 3W pump has been brought up on Photonlexicon a few times, and people have reported/contacted the seller, but he just keeps re listing it and flaming people who contact him about it.

DO NOT buy from this seller.
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Sorry can you clarify what has happened when trying to contact the seller? Is the do not buy recommendation based on him continuing to sell >1mw pointers on ebay even though he has been reported several times?

I think I will hold off on buying this for the moment... looks like what I suspected may be true.

thanks everyone.
 
Things said:
That laser pointer with the 3W pump has been brought up on Photonlexicon a few times, and people have reported/contacted the seller, but he just keeps re listing it and flaming people who contact him about it.

DO NOT buy from this seller.
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Okay, thanks for the information Things. Probably another one of those general sellers who don't realise that we have the equipment to verify this stuff.

I'll talk to him for a bit, but I'll almost certainly not purchase anything (and if I do, I'll make sure I can return it).

Out of curiosity, do you have a link to those threads at PL? I wouldn't mind reading for myself what other people found with the units.
 
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My email seems to of got no reply. To make sure he didn't just think I was some laser noob and scam me I made sure to be smart with my email, discussing different companies and other clever laser things, as well as my laser power meter. I think he decided I wasn't worth the trouble, LOL
 
He did take around half a week t reply to me, but then I had a good email chat with 8+ emails in about an hour. But you're probably right
 
I have seen this Melborne guy on ebay for years but never had any contact. He has however at least a few years back, done alot of biz with Chris L.(Heruursciences)so maybe he can shed some light on him. He also gets/got many items from SurplusShed. He has no recent neg feedbacks but did a while back-- some of which were due to an accident. good luck--hak
 
Yeah definitely not 1 watt, but that doesn't necessarily mean its a bad laser. I still would be wary of this guy
 
I too want a genuine 1 watt 532nm green hand held pointer and talked to "Chuck" at Aixiz Service International and as best I can remember he quoted me a price of 1175 U.S. Dollars for the 1 watt version and 750 dollars for a 500mw green version. Aixiz is a real genuine laser company with great customer care! Try getting in touch with Chuck Maricle at this direct email cmaricle@mfgcn.com
 
zxn474l said:
I too want a genuine 1 watt 532nm green hand held pointer and talked to "Chuck" at Aixiz Service International and as best I can remember he quoted me a price of 1175 U.S. Dollars for the 1 watt version and 750 dollars for a 500mw green version. Aixiz is a real genuine laser company with great customer care! Try getting in touch with Chuck Maricle at this direct email cmaricle@mfgcn.com
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Really? that seems unusually cheap
 
Murudai said:
Okay, I've emailed him inquiring about it, lets see what he has to say about it. What I'll probably do is purchase this unit then test it with my power meter and everything to verify it's working properly, otherwise I'll just return it within the 7 days and get a full refund.
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I actually got a reply, lol. And yes, it was all in caps. It's a funny one:



OK

FIRSTLY JAY YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND A FEW FACTS I WANT TO MAKE VERY CLEAR
WITH YOU AND THE PEOPLE YOU TALK TO WHO PLAY WITH LASERS AND KNOW THE BASICS
AND WHO
REGARD THEMSELVES AS LASER EXPERTS. I'M NOT REFERRING TO YOU IN THE ABOVE
STATEMENT BUT YOU KNOW QUITE WELL WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT.

? I DON'T ASSUME
? I DON'T SELL BULLSHIT
? I DEAL IN FACTS ONLY
? I BUILD AND TEST ALL LASERS AS IF THE CUSTOMER HAS A POWER METER AND WILL
CONDUCT TESTS.
? I TEST TO DESTRUCTION


? NOT ALL BUT THE MAJORITY OF LASERSHOW PEOPLE IS TOTAL CLOWNS. WHO ARE ONLY
BUTTON AND PLUG PUSHERS AND HAVE CLOSE TO NO KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE IN
LASER BUILDING, THEY GET ALL THEIR KNOWLEDGE FROM FALSE AND CONFUSED FACTS


? THIS IR FILTER WIFE TALE WHICH IS USED BY CHEAP AA BATTERY LASER POINTER
SELLERS IS A JOKE WHICH ONLY FOOLS KIDS WITH A WEEKS WORTH OF KNOWLEDGE IN
LASERS.
IR FILTERS DON'T MEAN SQUAT. WE TEST AT 532nm AND WE TEST AT 1064 AND 808
ALL WAVELENGTHS ALL SEPARATELY........SO THAT TIRED OLD MYTH ABOUT PEOPLE
WITHOUT IR FILTERS ARE SELLING LIES IS FINISHED.


? I HAVE A BENCH FULL OF LASER POWER METERS.

? ND:YVO4 AND KTP CRYSTAL CONVERSION EFFIENCY IS NOT ALWAYS AT 20-30 PERCENT
EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD WITH EVERYONE ALL THE TIME. ITS COMMON KNOWLEDGE
IN MY CIRCLES THAT MUCH HIGHER VALUES ARE ACHIEVED ALL THE TIME ONLY WITH
THE BEST EQUIPMENT.

? I AM FULLY AWARE OF ALL THE CHINESE MANUFACTURES CLAIMS AND THEIR LASERS.
THEIR CLAIMS ARE FALSE AND THEIR KNOWLEDGE AND QUALITY ABOUT LASERS AND LASER
ELECTRONICS IS A JOKE. THEY CAN?T EVEN PACKAGE A LASER TO SURVIVE A LOCAL
SHIPMENT WITHOUT TOTAL DESTRUCTION OF THE LASER ON ARRIVAL. ONE OTHER FACT
THEY CAN ONLY BUILD UP T0 350mw IN 532nm IN A LASER POINTER CONFIGURATION
WHICH WILL RUN AT MORE THAN 10MIN, THEY MIGHT ACHIEVE HIGHER BUT THAT FIGURE
IS WHERE THERE MAX IS STABLE, THERE ARE A FEW BIG FUNDAMENTAL REASONS WHY
AND WE KNOW IT QUITE WELL.

REMEMBER THAT FIGURE BECAUSE ITS VERY GOOD ADVICE THAT COMES FROM VERY GOOD,
EXPENSIVE WISDOM AND EXPERIENCE.



NOW ABOUT THE 700 POINTERS ON EBAY, TOWARDS THE END OF 2009 I BUILT AND SOLD
A FEW AROUND THE WORLD AND THE PEOPLE LOVE EM. HAVE A LOOK AT THE FEEDBACK
IN EBAY WHERE EVEN ONE FEEDBACK COMMENT STATES THE POWER OUTPUT AND HOW STABLE
IT IS, THIS GUY HAS POWER METERS AND RUNS LASER SHOWS AND BUILDS WHITE LIGHT
LASERS,.

DESPITE ALL THE JEALOUS CHILDISH PEOPLE IN THE UK AND AROUND THE WORLD WHO
CONTACTED EBAY MANY TIMES AND TIRED TO REMOVE THE LISTINGS. THESE IDIOTS
WHICH MOST LASERSHOW PEOPLE ARE JUST WANTED TO KILL ALL COMPETITION WORLDWIDE
WHILST THEY SLOWLY FED THE REST OF THE WORLD WITH THEIR GARBAGE AND ILL FOUNDED
FIGURES, SELLING THEIR CHINESE BUILT LASER POINTERS WITH 2 SECOND YOUTUBE
FLICKS OF THEM BURNING BLACK OBJECTS AND POPPING BALLONS, WE LAUGH AT THIS
CRAP HERE.....THIS IS COMEDY FOR US............LASERGOW AND ALL THE RELATED
OR SIMILAR COMPANIES AND THEIR SALES YOUTUBE FLICKS IS A COMPLETE COMEDY
CHANNEL HERE

NOBODY I KNOW WHO SPENDS 2000 USD ON A LASER POINTER PLAYS WITH BURNING BLACK
PLASTIC OBLECTS IN A HOME OR IN A KITCHEN AND USES THEM TO LIGHT SMOKES
OR POP BALLONS.

WHAT THESE IGNORANT IDIOTS DIDN'T KNOW WAS ALL LASERS WERE FITTED WITH FILTERS
WHICH LIMITED THEIR POWER TO LESS THAN 1mw WHICH MAKES THEM LEGAL,
BEHIND THE FILTER WAS 700 OR ABOVE.


YOU CAN TEST TO YOUR HEARTS CONTENT!!!!

IT WONT RUN WITH A 100% DUTY CYCLE BECAUSE IT?S BATTERY POWERED, THERE IS
NO SUCH THING AS A 100 PERCENT BATTERY OPERATED 100 PERCENT DUTY CYCLE LASER.



A BATTERY WILL ALWAYS RUN OUT UNLESS YOU HAVE IT CONNECTED TO A POWER SOURCE,
I KNOW THIS IS COMMON KNOWLEDGE BUT IT MUST BE DRUMMED INTO SOME PEOPLE.

THESE WILL OUTPUT 700 AND OVER FOR AROUND 18 MIN UNTIL THE HEATSINKS ARE
SATURATED,
THERE IS ANOTHER MODEL WITH BIG EXTERNAL FAN COOLED HEAT SINKS AND SEPARATE
HEATSINKS TO THE PSU AND LD SYSTEMS. BUT IT?S ALOT BIGGER. AND MORE EXPENSIVE.
THIS UNIT WILL OUTPUT OVER 700 FOR 45 MIN UNTIL THE BATTERY VOLTAGE DROPS
TOO LOW AND THE PSU CUTS OUT.

YES THE ARE TEC COOLED

YES THE 700 USED A 3 WATT


I DON'T MASS PRODUCE THESE.
I DON'T SELL THEM TO ANYONE.
I DON'T DO THESE FULL TIME.
I AM NOT DOING ANY AT THE MOMENT
IF YOUR ARE GENUINE AND WANT TO OWN ONE AND NOT JUST TO PLAY WITH AND THEN
TRY TO RETURN ONCE YOU HAVE SUCKED ALL THE DATA FROM IT AND SHARED ALL THE
DATA TO EVERYONE ELSE. I COULD BUILD YOU ONE AND I COULD GIVE YOU A TIMELINE
AND PRICES, BUT IF YOU?RE GOING TO WASTE MY TIME THEN DON'T BOTHER.



YES I CAN BUILD A 1 WATT VERSION, IT USES A 5 WATT.
IT?S TEC COOLED AND HAS MUCH BIGGER HEAT SINKS AND FANS AND MORE BATTERIES
AND SEPARATE BATTERIES THAN RUN THE TEC?S AND FANS.

NOBODY WHO BUILDS TO THIS LEVEL DOES IT MASS PRODUCED.

THEY DON'T ALL TAKE THE SAME TIME TO BUILD SOME TAKE 30 HOURS OF ADJUSTMENTS
AND TESTING JUST TO GET CLOSE TO RIGHT.



IF THIS MESSAGE HAS A NEGATIVE TONE IT?S NOT AIMED AT YOU SO DO NOT BE OFFENDED.

IT?S AIMED AT THE PEOPLE YOU TALKED WITH AND TALK TO.


REGARDS


PAUL
 
Paul must be having a bad day. It's a tough business, lasers.

I don't own any SKYlasers, but I've seen both good and bad reviews, with good being predominant in my mind. You should take him up on his offer to test a unit. If it's quality, we'll know and we'll let people know..
 
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