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FrozenGate by Avery

“Something Is Monitoring The Planet, And They Are Monitoring it Very Cautiously”

I think this kind of thread isn't well accepted in LPF by too many members because others think the whole subject is fantasy and this scientifically minded group of individuals, for the most part (or at least, the belief of it) are above such non-sense. This amuses me somewhat because from first hand experience I know better, that these "UFO's" are sometimes more than just a misidentified conventional aircraft thought to be alien, sometimes they are alien craft.

Many countries have already declassified their files on the subject with no doubt the technology behind them is far above our own yet in the minds of too many, that isn't reality.

This lists contains countries that have actually disclosed, those that are in litigation to disclose all or specific files and countries that have released significant aspects of UFO and alien encounters.

This is happening in rapid fashion and will continue until we have some undeniable facts put forward that the UFO and Alien Phenomena is real.

1. Argentina
2. Australia
3. Brazil
4. Canada
5. Chile
6. China
7. Denmark
8. Finland
9. France
10. Germany
11. India
12. Ireland
13. Japan
14. Mexico
15. New Zealand (Additional Report)
16. Peru
17. Russia
18. Spain
19. Sweden
20. Ukraine (not in English)
21. United Nations
22. United Kingdom
23. Uruguay
24. Vatican City

It is very clear that mankind is being prepared for disclosure. It is no coincidence that more than 20 countries have started partial or full disclosure. Also comments and actions from the Vatican and the UN indicate that the "so called powers" want some of this information to become public. The preparation process is well under way and it is not that difficult to connect the dots.

On a final note, full, honest and complete disclosure may never happen. At best, we can expect some type of limited or partial disclosure.

PS I ripped the above from another web site: http://www.educatinghumanity.com/2011/01/list-of-countries-that-have-disclosed.html - This web site may or may not have credibility in your mind, I can't accept everything on it myself, but never mind the source, the message is based on reality, this stuff is going on all the time and observations of these craft happening on a daily basis somewhere in the world.

Go to this link to read a more recent article about a leading Dutch astronomer who says there are likely 3000 alien civilizations in our galaxy: http://www.educatinghumanity.com

I took off a tin hat of denial keeping me ignorant on the subject many years ago. Also, seeing is believing, that helped me a lot. For most who have not had such, I don't blame you for doubting something like this if you haven't had a personal experience or haven't researched the subject enough for yourself yet, but I find such a reality wonderful, awesome and beautiful, so far :)

The most common argument I have seen regarding such visitations is a statement it is impossible for a civilization from another world on the other side of the galaxy, or even just a relatively small portion of its size away to get here, due to the time it would take if traveling sub-light speed. It wasn't that long ago heavier than air flying machines were deemed impossible too, going to the moon impossible... because we didn't have the technology to do so, but we do now. I expect this will continue for generations, statements that such and such is impossible and the next generation finding a way to do it.
 
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Every time I read an article about extraterrestrial UFO's, they always seem to suck me in a little with evidence that feels compelling, and when I get to the end the whole thing just seems off and made up. Trust me I enjoyed my visit to Roswell (hilarious town btw) and the alien museum and what not, I would even like to believe in ET life. The problem is there just isn't anything solid to hold onto, and if there is solid info out there it's so diluted with so much made up crap by deceptive people or people who want to believe so badly they see patterns that aren't there.

I don't think you're dealing with a closed minded crowd, this ET UFO stuff is like trying to see a fish in 10ft deep muddy water. The facts are not clearly seen, and the circumstances are far from transparent.
 
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I would be exited if plants or microbes were found on other planets in the future. Don't need this living alien creature stuff to think its awesome. Too bad none of these "alien UFOs" have actually been brought down and examined that so many people claimed to have seen.
And sorry if I'm late but, any popcorn left?
 
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crazyspaz said:
This thread makes me feel like Im getting brain cancer.
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:crackup: you read the whole thing too?

Edit: Seems like some interesting topics in this thread. Though I have not done too much research on these subjects so I guess I can't really contribute or argue against some of it.
 
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Yes, I agree, the UFO community has big problems, many of these web sites which have a lot of good in them have other things that would blow it for me that any of it was real except, I've seen these things for myself and that, is something which has no value to someone else either. You can't believe people for something like this, extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof, yet for myself, without being able to prove anything, I know they exist.

The problem is that the baby of the subject is thrown out with the dirty bathwater, this human tendency we all can be guilty of sometimes prevents us from looking further. I've done it too, or when I get conflicting information think the other side is wrong when both seeming sides, although appearing contradictory, might also be correct. For an example, ever hear the crazy theory we didn't really go to the moon? There are ham radio operators who listened to the communications coming from the moon, tracking the moon, this would have been impossible to fake back then, several people in different parts of the world tracking the moon and hearing the communications, not possible to have been faked, yet some people believe we never landed on the moon. However, one possibility came to mind for me on this, maybe both are correct? That we landed on the moon as well as faked some of the missions for reasons which cannot be disclosed? Why would that happen? Were we told to stop going there? Are both positions correct?

This is probably a bad example, I've seen nothing to convince me we faked any part of it myself.

As far as the alien reality goes, so called skeptic after skeptic has investigated it and changed their position, but it does take spending some real personal time to come to a conclusion.
 
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I visited the "List of Countries That Have Disclosed Alien and UFO Documents" and found they had links to sources. But the vatican city source for example is a link to a fox news site with the headline "Vatican: It's OK for Catholics to Believe in Aliens." There is no disclosure of alien or UFO documents at all.

The Japan source is another fox news article with the headline "Japan's Top Government Spokesman: UFOs 'Definitely' Exist" and mentions nothing about these sightings being from another planet. No one is disputing that some flying objects are unidentified - we get it! But, again, to say they're from another planet is not supported.

Danish claim was the same. Documents of UFO sightings, but no claims they are from another world.

The china one has ONE guy named Wang Sichao rambling on... "39 years of work at Purple Mountain Observatory has led Wang to believe these craft use Earth’s gravity to manouvre and stay aloft." and yet "These craft travel at eighty percent the speed of light." Both are wild claims, and several other claims are listed - no evidence.

I could spend all day taking these apart, but I have no reason to believe the remainder of the links will be any different. I've got better things to do and I'm not sure you're listening anyway.

You have to understand, it's a contradiction to call a UFO extraterrestrial:
"I have not identified this flying object, therefore I have identified this flying object."
 
Guys dragons exist and so do elves. You can find them in printed material all over the place. I know the books/sites might not be totally credible, but I am just interested in their content. Notice how the government has never admitted these races exist and how teachers in schools tell children that they dont. That means they are covering it up!

And if you look at volcanos they could totally be a spot to house dragons. Since lava exists so must dragons.

Guys.

......Dragons!


 
"And if you look at volcanos they could totally be a spot to house dragons. Since lava exists so must dragons.

Guys.

...…Dragons!"

Oh they are real alright. I should know as I was married to one for a few years. Still getting the burn marks off the walls!
 
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