Your IQ?

[cmak]

It's funny that this topic comes up! Just this week we had IQ/PQ testing (optional, of course) in my high school, and I took part in them. The program costs money but my school paid for it (it's a good public school) so that more students would participate. Anyways, my mean IQ (Intelligence Quotient) was 136 (one of the highest out of those who took it at my school) and I was actually really surprised to find that my PQ (Practical Intelligence Quotient) was 150 sharp, the 2nd highest in my entire school! So out of the ~1k students at my school, they said that about 650 opted in for testing, and that out of those 650, I had the 2nd highest Practical Intelligence Quotient. In other words, "i iz pritie smawrt."

However despite scoring so extremely high on the "official" tests, I then took the one in this thread (IQTest.dk) and scored a measly (all in relativity of course =P) 126. I DECLARE BOGUS! Also, I think that this is more of a PQ test than an IQ test (Practical Intellence Quotient tests are more about logic, such as the "complete this pattern" style tests; Intellegence Quotient tests are more focused on knowledge, and are more similar to "Trivial Pursuit", as mentioned on the first page of this thread).

To simplify, IQ tests would usually ask something like "Which of the following mountains is the tallest in the world? A) Mt. Kilimanjaro B) Mt. Everest C) Your Mother D) Bill Clinton", while PQ (also known as PIQ) tests would usually contain questions like "2 5 9 13 19 26 34 43 53 __. What is the next number in the sequence?"

peace & thanks
-cmak

 

[Xplorer877]

I got 126.

-Tony

 

[Laha]

100 a bit dissapointe...

 

[Deleted member 8382]

@Cmak: in which scale were your results given? We hare have been using the Binet scale, but it could be possible that your school results were given in the Cattel scale. 150 Cattel is 130 in Binet, otherwise your numbers and ranks don't seem to follow what they should.

First, if you got 126 on the IQtest.dk one, it sounds really strange to me that you then got 150 on your school one. Also, that thing about "PQ", isn't that a PSP videogame? I've never heard of that term in any serious test!

Also, 2nd best result out of 650, means a rarity of 1/325, which assuming that the 650 students were a random selection of population, would mean that your IQ is 144 in the Binet scale and 166 in the Cattel one. And this is not even the case, because since those students are high school students, their average IQ is probably above 100 and so your IQ would still be higher. Again, all what you said sounds a bit strange xD

Look at the bottom of this page for a very nice script to convert scales and such:

http://hem.bredband.net/b153434/Index.htm

 

[cmak]

Yea they didn't mention anything about the different "scales" like the Binet or the Cattel.. they just said that it was an "official" test and that those results would be accurate. They did however explain that these scores are out of a total 200 (if that makes any difference). I do remember playing the PSP game "PQ" a very long time ago (haven't played videogames in years) so the term wasn't new to me. I just didn't know that it was an "official test" up until this week.

Not to brag or anything, but I would consider myself exceptionally smart (kinda hard to phrase that without it seeming like bragging...). If it counts for anything, I took & aced Algebra in the 6th grade, and finished Precalculus with a "B" as a Sophomore. I got a perfect score on the Math section of the CAHSEE (California High School State Exit Exam... a mandatory two-part test with a Math and an English portion that are >150 questions each) and a near-perfect score in the English Section. I am now a Junior, enrolled in Calculus AP and preparing to take the CHSPE in March (California High School Proficiency Exam... it's kinda like a GED except it's equivalent to a High School Diploma).

But enough about me, let's talk about Bill Clinton.

peace & thanks
-cmak

 

[Asherz]

Yea they didn't mention anything about the different "scales" like the Binet or the Cattel.. they just said that it was an "official" test and that those results would be accurate. They did however explain that these scores are out of a total 200 (if that makes any difference). I do remember playing the PSP game "PQ" a very long time ago (haven't played videogames in years) so the term wasn't new to me. I just didn't know that it was an "official test" up until this week.

Not to brag or anything, but I would consider myself exceptionally smart (kinda hard to phrase that without it seeming like bragging...). If it counts for anything, I took & aced Algebra in the 6th grade, and finished Precalculus with a "B" as a Sophomore. I got a perfect score on the Math section of the CAHSEE (California High School State Exit Exam... a mandatory two-part test with a Math and an English portion that are >150 questions each) and a near-perfect score in the English Section. I am now a Junior, enrolled in Calculus AP and preparing to take the CHSPE in March (California High School Proficiency Exam... it's kinda like a GED except it's equivalent to a High School Diploma).

But enough about me, let's talk about Bill Clinton.

peace & thanks
-cmak

But can you paint or draw a masterpiece? A picture speaks a thousand words

 

[cmak]

haha well said but no I'm not into art so much as music and film-editing

I play guitar very well (if anybody's familiar with "Bleed" by Meshuggah, I can play a full speed cover of that song) and I do Special-FX and film editing with Adobe After Effects CS4. I am also just coming out of my long-standing hobby of CSS (Counter-Strike Source) in which I created and owned my own servers, made my own maps, and became very famed and reputable. I'm selling my latest server and I've gotten offers so far as high $1.2k (for a rented GAME server).

But when it comes to painting or drawing a masterpiece, I can barely pull off a decent stick figure. So I guess you're right -- everybody has their own talents

Peace & thanks
-cmak

 

[Deleted member 8382]

@cmak: But, even if they didn't mention anything about scales, if the results were given in form of "graph", try to look for the percentile scale. 98% percentile = 130 binet = 150 Cattel IIRC. THe percentile is almost always given together with wichever scale is used

 

[Benm]

Memory is a funny thing. I would imagine that high IQ scores correlate with better working memory, but they still may have trouble getting explicit memory out of the hippocampus stored into the cortex.

To do (most) iq tests, you need to have a functional short term / working memory, but otherwise long/medium term memory is not a factor.

In theory you could make a test with complete retrograde amnesia up to just before the test, and still get a good score. I suppose the practical limit is where your memory is so bad you forgot you were taking an iq test before you fininsh

As for the averge being 100: It usually isn't. The average person that takes an iq test at all has an average iq a bit over 100. If you take tests on a cohort of high school students, you should expect averages in the order of 108.

By the time some selection on iq has already been made, averages are obviously off. With university students you can expect an average of over 120 (or 130 depending on which SD and rating system).

 

[Deleted member 8382]

i suppose the practical limit is where your memory is so bad you forgot you were taking an iq test before you fininsh

lol!!

 

[StridAst]

Lol I have to point out, it's entirely possible for the results of a voluntary test of students to be skewed. You could have factors of how they propose it that will either make some people less likely to take it, or more likely to take it.

Scenerio #1. "All students who wish to take this test meet in the cafeteria. You will be able to take this in place of X class.

Result: a disproportional number of students who are doing poorly in the class at that time will opt to leave to take an I.Q. test. Those doing better in the class, or thinking ahead and not wanting to get a little behind and potentially hurt their grades some might instead choose to simply go to class as usual. Resulting in a large number of poorly performing students taking the class, and a smaller number of well performing students taking it. Granted, a lot of extremely smart people do very poorly in school, so it doesn't rule out these types at all. But it will still skew the results from the normal curve when factors like these will entice people to either take it or not take it based off school performance.

Scenario #2 "All students who wish to take this test are free to do so by staying after school."

Result: Now you have a lot of curious over-achievers interested, and almost none of the slacker crowd. the end curve of the group is still skewed from the norm.

Also, those with higher a higher I.Q. are more likely to take a test at some point in their life. It's possible those who would score even higher could have already taken a test, and not felt the need to take another one. *shrug* number statistics can't be accurately applied to a setting without a full knowledge of all the variables that might effect the results.

Just a thought.

But still, I have noticed that no I.Q. test seems to be remotely capable of gauging someones actual ability to process and react to information. Everyone processes things a little differently, so no standardized test can read all people the same.

Again, artistic talent can still be construed as. Show me a standard I.Q. test that can and does measure this......

 

[Deleted member 8382]

I agree with you except at this point:

But still, I have noticed that no I.Q. test seems to be remotely capable of gauging someones actual ability to process and react to information. Everyone processes things a little differently, so no standardized test can read all people the same.

Change that word for "absolutely" and then I can agree

 

[StridAst]

I agree with you except at this point:



Change that word for "absolutely" and then I can agree

Lol fair enough.

 

[Lonewolf]

Well .......I must have an IQ of a potato peeler, can't even get the damn test to work:thinking:

 

[Deleted member 8382]

Firefox issue for sure :crackup:

 

[cmak]

Well .......I must have an IQ of a potato peeler, can't even get the damn test to work:thinking:

:crackup:

Lol I have to point out, it's entirely possible for the results of a voluntary test of students to be skewed. You could have factors of how they propose it that will either make some people less likely to take it, or more likely to take it.

Scenerio #1. "All students who wish to take this test meet in the cafeteria. You will be able to take this in place of X class.

Result: a disproportional number of students who are doing poorly in the class at that time will opt to leave to take an I.Q. test. Those doing better in the class, or thinking ahead and not wanting to get a little behind and potentially hurt their grades some might instead choose to simply go to class as usual. Resulting in a large number of poorly performing students taking the class, and a smaller number of well performing students taking it. Granted, a lot of extremely smart people do very poorly in school, so it doesn't rule out these types at all. But it will still skew the results from the normal curve when factors like these will entice people to either take it or not take it based off school performance.

Scenario #2 "All students who wish to take this test are free to do so by staying after school."

Result: Now you have a lot of curious over-achievers interested, and almost none of the slacker crowd. the end curve of the group is still skewed from the norm.

Also, those with higher a higher I.Q. are more likely to take a test at some point in their life. It's possible those who would score even higher could have already taken a test, and not felt the need to take another one. *shrug* number statistics can't be accurately applied to a setting without a full knowledge of all the variables that might effect the results.

Just a thought.

But still, I have noticed that no I.Q. test seems to be remotely capable of gauging someones actual ability to process and react to information. Everyone processes things a little differently, so no standardized test can read all people the same.

Again, artistic talent can still be construed as. Show me a standard I.Q. test that can and does measure this......

I agree with your point, as it is a very good one :beer: but most of the school did take it so the offset isn't very high. If it were 50% or less then I agree, the average would be way off. Still, great point though -- hadn't come to me immediately

peace & thanks
-cmak