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Hi guys, im not sure where to start so ill just make a rant 
. I wont name names, so ill keep them undiclosed unless they wish to name themselves in the thread - no sherlock holmes people neither please 
.
Ok so basically, i sent off a dragon viper 125mW to be tested, checked, cleaned up and if necessary repaired if the price was right. The laser was putting out around 80-110mW from my eye perspective. I advertised it on here and had a fair few PMs from people wanting to repair it for me (One was Daguin, who told me to get a local person to do it to save time and shipping costs - UK), some even wanted to buy it.
*One member said that some gunk may be altering the power output by sliding on the lens as the laser heats up and cools etc...which is why i wanted it cleaning up. It output stronger after it was warmed alittle than straight off the bat.*
I was offered $150 for it, by one member, IF it was up to spec after he did the cleanup. He is in the USA so i thought, if he wanted to buy it aswell as clean it up, then it would save alot of time and hassle. I sent the laser over to him.
When he received it, he told me it was just putting out over 5mW, so i told him to heat it up alittle. He tried it to no avail, which i find very strange, as i have pics of its beam.
After 8 MONTHS! of PMs, chit chat (putting it back together), ive lost this (Button), ive lost that (Gold ring) etc i decided to finally have the laser shipped back to me.
When i receive it, the laser doesnt even work, the button doesnt click down when its pressed, the lens fitting just falls out due to it not being screwed back in properly, the host is squashed and re-shaped *LAUGHS...* and the endcap only just goes back on and did i mention it doesnt even work???
I asked him wtf is going on and nothing is really happening. I asked him for some sort of compensation and he asked me what i would like, so i asked him 3 times to make me a list of what he could offer in replacement. I mean i dont want to skint the guy, or get ripped off, so merely asking for offers on what he can give me...no reply to the third pm. I sent him one this morning UK time asking if he would maybe consider 2 lenses (Lens mounted in Brass "No Spring" Lens assembly - $56.95 prepaid in the continental U.S.) as compensation and he replies with this:
"Ok, Please try be reasonable. I don't have much money and honestly, I don't think a broken 80mW greenie is worth anything near that amount."
as to which i replied:
"I am being reasonable. A manufactured rating of 125mW from dragon
lasers (Online order price now at Price:US$299.99), which i said
LOOKED over 80mW just from my perspective even when under
performing. You yourself "valued it" unseen to be $150 (only
AFTER it being fixed / cleaned up as i requested) and then
destroyed it, not just the insides, but the host aswell... I
believe $100 is pretty reasonable, dont you? Like i have asked
three times, what do you have to offer?
John"
I said unseen, but meant untested, he had seen the pics of the beam.
He replied:
When it reached me it was putting out 5mW at most. I would not have destroyed an 80mW laser.
and i replied:
"So because it was 5mW you destroyed it?
You have seen the images of the beam, they were taken a few days before i sent it to you. Even if it only ouput 1mW, does that mean you can destroy my property and fob me off? im still waiting for the list
John"
The pms are still going on as im typing this. Id just like to get some "third person" views on this. Am i wrong in expecting something worth around $100 for the destruction of my viper 125mW?
Thanks for reading! Ill update with any info etc.
Edited to add pics:
John
. I wont name names, so ill keep them undiclosed unless they wish to name themselves in the thread - no sherlock holmes people neither please .Ok so basically, i sent off a dragon viper 125mW to be tested, checked, cleaned up and if necessary repaired if the price was right. The laser was putting out around 80-110mW from my eye perspective. I advertised it on here and had a fair few PMs from people wanting to repair it for me (One was Daguin, who told me to get a local person to do it to save time and shipping costs - UK), some even wanted to buy it.
*One member said that some gunk may be altering the power output by sliding on the lens as the laser heats up and cools etc...which is why i wanted it cleaning up. It output stronger after it was warmed alittle than straight off the bat.*
I was offered $150 for it, by one member, IF it was up to spec after he did the cleanup. He is in the USA so i thought, if he wanted to buy it aswell as clean it up, then it would save alot of time and hassle. I sent the laser over to him.
When he received it, he told me it was just putting out over 5mW, so i told him to heat it up alittle. He tried it to no avail, which i find very strange, as i have pics of its beam.
After 8 MONTHS! of PMs, chit chat (putting it back together), ive lost this (Button), ive lost that (Gold ring) etc i decided to finally have the laser shipped back to me.
When i receive it, the laser doesnt even work, the button doesnt click down when its pressed, the lens fitting just falls out due to it not being screwed back in properly, the host is squashed and re-shaped *LAUGHS...* and the endcap only just goes back on and did i mention it doesnt even work???
I asked him wtf is going on and nothing is really happening. I asked him for some sort of compensation and he asked me what i would like, so i asked him 3 times to make me a list of what he could offer in replacement. I mean i dont want to skint the guy, or get ripped off, so merely asking for offers on what he can give me...no reply to the third pm. I sent him one this morning UK time asking if he would maybe consider 2 lenses (Lens mounted in Brass "No Spring" Lens assembly - $56.95 prepaid in the continental U.S.) as compensation and he replies with this:
"Ok, Please try be reasonable. I don't have much money and honestly, I don't think a broken 80mW greenie is worth anything near that amount."
as to which i replied:
"I am being reasonable. A manufactured rating of 125mW from dragon
lasers (Online order price now at Price:US$299.99), which i said
LOOKED over 80mW just from my perspective even when under
performing. You yourself "valued it" unseen to be $150 (only
AFTER it being fixed / cleaned up as i requested) and then
destroyed it, not just the insides, but the host aswell... I
believe $100 is pretty reasonable, dont you? Like i have asked
three times, what do you have to offer?
John"
I said unseen, but meant untested, he had seen the pics of the beam.
He replied:
When it reached me it was putting out 5mW at most. I would not have destroyed an 80mW laser.
and i replied:
"So because it was 5mW you destroyed it?
You have seen the images of the beam, they were taken a few days before i sent it to you. Even if it only ouput 1mW, does that mean you can destroy my property and fob me off? im still waiting for the list
John"
The pms are still going on as im typing this. Id just like to get some "third person" views on this. Am i wrong in expecting something worth around $100 for the destruction of my viper 125mW?
Thanks for reading! Ill update with any info etc.
Edited to add pics:
John
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