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Old 09-20-2009, 07:03 PM #1
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Default Named and SHAMED - Massive info thread.

Well, the guys been an arse about the whole issue so i will post all i can, except addresses and very personal info.

Heres a thread to get an idea of what im talking about:

Would like some input :)

The guy is Potatorage.

I suggest that NOONE deals with this person, he is DISHONEST, USELESS and a SCAM. Heres all the PMs etc from 9months in order (Scroll down if u cant be bothered reading the MASS of text ):

02-21-2009, 03:02 PM
potatorage

The Viper
I'd love to do any work and clean the Viper, for only the

shipping charges-- I might even buy it

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02-21-2009, 07:32 PM
romeo02045

Re: The Viper
Cool, where are you from?


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02-21-2009, 07:34 PM
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Default Re: The Viper
I'm in the united states-- is that ok?
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02-21-2009, 08:42 PM
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Default Re: The Viper
Ah, UK was preferable so i dont have to wait weeks lol BUT if ur

planning on buying it also, then i dont really see a problem. If

you do want to buy it, then ill send it to you, but if you dont

and nobody can do it in the UK, then ill send it to you.
I expect you would like a reading etc before purchase? If its

what your looking for, what would be your maximum price?
Heres a few pics i took a few weeks back:

http://www.laserpointerforums.com/fo...num=1234321407

Post two is the laser im selling. It works fine, just the fog

might put some people off, but its not that noticeable unless you

actually look at it close up.
The lens will need focusing to burn i believe, although i havnt

really tried that, i just focused it for the best dot close range

and distance. Its easy to focus too.

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02-21-2009, 09:03 PM
potatorage

Default Re: The Viper
I would like to do a reading before I buy it, and if it is good I

can pay about ~$150, let me know if that is ok, it really just

depends on what you want for it... And also: If my price is not

reasonable for you, I can ship it directly to the buyer
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02-22-2009, 11:02 PM
romeo02045

Default Re: The Viper
That sounds ok, I havnt had any offers except yours and Daguin.

Whats your address? ill send it out tomorrow recorded so you can

test and cleanup etc if u still want to ;D. Also, if you have

paypal ill transfer the return shipping costs onto you if you

know them? Cheers

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02-23-2009, 02:32 AM
potatorage

Default Re: The Viper
MY address is
Bowen he,
REMOVED
Austin,TX REMOVED
As for the return shipping, I will get a paypal account soon, so

you can pay me in a bit. Or: You can just print out the

postage(via paypal) and scan it, and I'll ship it to the buyer,

or it may not be necessary if I buy it
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02-23-2009, 05:35 PM
romeo02045
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Default Re: The Viper
I posted the laser to you this morning

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03-04-2009, 07:14 PM
romeo02045

Default Re: The Viper
Hi mate,
Any sign of it yet? ;D

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03-04-2009, 11:48 PM
potatorage

Default Re: The Viper
Nope, haven't gotten it yet :P what kind of mail did you send it

by?
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03-05-2009, 12:48 AM
romeo02045

Default Re: The Viper
International Signed for via Royal Mail. Heres the tracking:

RI935613493GB

Or tracking page:

http://track.royalmail.com/portal/rm...questid=137480

Taking its time for priority lol


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03-06-2009, 12:17 AM
potatorage

Default Re: The Viper
Lol, it is. I checked it via usps.com (united states) and it has

arrived like 1-2 weeks ago.
Label/Receipt Number: RI93 5613 493G B
Associated Label/Receipt:
Detailed Results:

Bullet Inbound International Arrival, February 24, 2009, 7:08 pm,

ISC NEW YORK NY(USPS)
Bullet Origin Post is Preparing Shipment
USPS is slow sometimes, hope it gets here soon!
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03-09-2009, 10:55 PM
romeo02045

Default Re: The Viper
Anything yet mate? lol

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03-09-2009, 10:56 PM
potatorage

Default Re: The Viper
Yeah, I got the slip telling me it is at the post office-- I will

go get it eventually

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03-10-2009, 12:09 AM
romeo02045

Default Re: The Viper
;D ok cool, let me know how it is


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03-14-2009, 01:50 AM
potatorage

Default Re: The Viper
got it today... seems to be like 5mW with fresh batteries...
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03-14-2009, 10:34 AM
romeo02045

Default Re: The Viper
5mW? I know it looks dim at first, but i found that if you warmed

it up alittle it would go really bright. Hold it in your palm for

a while it will look stronger These are some pics of the laser

itself, surely that cant be 5mW :-?:

http://www.laserpointerforums.com/fo...num=1234321407

Second post.
Try warming it up and test it lol ;D
romeo02045 is online now Forward Message

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03-16-2009, 07:19 PM
potatorage

Default Re: The Viper
I tried warming it up, no luck-- the output is still not so good
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03-16-2009, 07:46 PM
romeo02045

Default Re: The Viper
:-? Very strange. What batteries are you using? The ones i used

in the "shots" are Duracell Ultra M3. Try a selection

and make sure the spring etc inside isnt touching the edge. Its

wierd how it outputs ok for me and not for you


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03-16-2009, 07:57 PM
potatorage

Default Re: The Viper
I tried using enegizer lithiums and a 10440 with spacer, still

the output was bad.


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03-16-2009, 07:59 PM
romeo02045

Default Re: The Viper
Hmm, Can you clean the lens up? and maybe get a power reading for

about 1-3minutes? If it does nothing within the 3 minutes then i

think we may have to just ship it back lol :-[ Shame its not

giving anything for you atm though :

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03-20-2009, 02:30 PM
potatorage

Default Re: The Viper
Hmm, I tried cleaning the lens on it, but it seems like stuff got

between the two lenses o.0
I left it on for about 5 mins-- got very warm but still not good

output, maybe you can send it to dragonlasers for a repair?
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03-26-2009, 10:01 AM
romeo02045

Default Re: The Viper
Hi,
Did you manage to clean and run a test on the viper? :-?

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03-27-2009, 01:40 PM
potatorage

Default Re: The Viper
Hi, I disassembled your viper lens assembly and I found the

problem. Your lens seems to be scratched or really dirty. I have

no idea how to fix it :P I can ship it back to you if you pay

shipping costs ;D Also: I think your diode is broken, and that is

why it is not outputting very much. I THINK I can replace it--

but it is your choice whether you want me to send back or wait.
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03-27-2009, 02:34 PM
romeo02045

Default Re: The Viper
Wait for what? lol Hmm, If you can repair the diode, would you

want to buy it? OR would you buy it now and repair it in your own

time? IF you repair it what kind of output will it give? Which

diode will you use etc. Also how much would shipping cost back to

the UK?
You say you THINK you can repair it, but do you have any

experience in doing so? IF it breaks, whos liable? :-? Cheers!

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04-02-2009, 02:42 AM
potatorage

Default Re: The Viper
I'm not too confident in repairing the laser, but I'd be happy to

send it back to you
Shipping will not be too much, like $2-3 but it is not tracked

and not guaranteed. You can consult usps.com for rates, but I

think tracked is like $10


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04-19-2009, 10:47 PM
romeo02045

Default Re: The Viper
Hi mate
Sorry about the VERY late reply lol. If you could send it back to

my address:

John *****
REMOVED
England

That would be great. Also give me your paypal info and postage

costs and ill send it right over

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04-21-2009, 01:33 AM
potatorage

Default Re: The Viper
untracked shipping is like $4, priority shipping is like $13,

tell me what you want
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04-21-2009, 01:41 AM
romeo02045

Default Re: The Viper
Tracked would be best mate Let me know your paypal and ill send

it right over. Cheers

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04-21-2009, 02:04 AM
potatorage

Default Re: The Viper
ok, please send $14 to potatorageREMOVEDcom-- it will cover the

shipping cost and the paypal fee, also, you want it back

disassembled or not-- since to repair it requires a half of a

cmount diode, I will be getting those soon
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04-21-2009, 10:47 AM
romeo02045

Default Re: The Viper
Hmm, Would you be able to repair it with the Cmount? or are u

still not sure if u want to? lol. How much do they cost for parts

etc.
I wouldnt know what im doing with it dissasembled so i think it

would be best assembled - i have a tendancy to mess around with

stuff i can see ;D. Thats if you really dont fancy repairing it

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04-21-2009, 02:11 PM
potatorage

Default Re: The Viper
I think I'll be able to, it seems like an easy repair-- The 500mW

cmount is like $30, I'll tell you when I get it


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04-21-2009, 03:24 PM
romeo02045

Default Re: The Viper
$30? i can get them for $18 each lol, but the shipping is heavy

with my supplier so best off to order when u buy something else

too :

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I DONT HAVE ANY MORE OUTBOX PMs DUE TO THE FORUM NOT SAVING

THEM...

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05-28-2009, 05:18 PM
potatorage

Default Re: The Viper
Hello, I am curently assembling the laser, you can either send me

a half watt cmount or i can just send it back to you-- it is $15

for priority tracked shipping.


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06-02-2009, 05:37 PM
potatorage

Default Re: The Viper
Hey, I just got a sticker back on your prism saying insufficient

postage -.- Sorry! I'll send it with your VIPER-- I am currently

putting it back together, it might take a while since the module

is currently stuck :P Please send payment to

potatorage2@gmail.com or you can print out a prepaid label using

the shipper of your choice and email it to me. Thanks!
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06-02-2009, 05:58 PM
potatorage

Default Re: The Viper
Uh
I don't think I damaged it-- Ya know-- It just got stuck :P So

I'm working to get it out
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06-02-2009, 06:17 PM
potatorage

Default Re: The Viper
I have no idea-- It should just slide out :P
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06-26-2009, 02:32 PM
potatorage

Default Re: The Viper
I'm still working on it, and I think it'll fit, but not sure

about the driver. I bet you could make a nice IR pen with this,

but 2W would saturate the crystals and cause total hell.

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06-28-2009, 12:34 AM
potatorage

Default Re: The Viper
Hey, almost have it assembled. But... I lost the button, So I'll

need to contact CNI for a new one. Sorry for the inconvience

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06-28-2009, 04:48 AM
potatorage

Default Re: The Viper
Uh, I had that laser sitting around for a while. Right now, it is

in 4 pieces =/

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07-06-2009, 03:50 PM
potatorage

Default Re: The Viper
Quote:
Originally Posted by romeo02045
Hey man,
Any news? Cheers

John

Quote:
Originally Posted by potatorage
Uh, I had that laser sitting around for a while. Right now, it is

in 4 pieces =/
Still awaiting response from dragon lasers/cni

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07-13-2009, 09:11 PM
potatorage

Default Re: The Viper
Hey, I haven't gotten a response from dragon lasers or CNi, maybe

you could try contacting them as well?

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07-13-2009, 10:10 PM
potatorage

Default Re: The Viper
I think some people might have an extra one, but just ask

cni/dragonlasers for a new button. I don't think they'll give me

one because Idon't have the receipt,etc

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08-19-2009, 11:14 PM
potatorage

Default Re: The Viper
Ok I found a button. I'm currently assembling your laser, It'll

be soon before you get it.
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08-20-2009, 03:03 AM
potatorage

Default Re: The Viper
Hey, did you send a case with the laseR? Also: I lost the gold

ring, I'll try to find it.
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08-20-2009, 03:10 AM
potatorage

Default Re: The Viper
Well, small parts are easy to lose. I'll send your laser back in

a case, I don't have any metal cases so I'll try to find the best

match
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08-26-2009, 03:36 AM
potatorage

Default Re: The Viper
Hey, Last confirmation before i ship it out, it is ok if the ring

is missing when I ship it right?
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Romeo02045 - 09 / 11 / 2009

Hey,
I received the laser this morning and i dont really know where to

begin...Ill just make a list and then a rant:

1 - Button doesnt work - wont click down on the clicky switch
2 - Laser doesnt work - it did when i sent it out for "Repairs".
3 - Missing ring - Discussed, but still hard to LOSE after you

already lost the button.
4 - battery compartment end SQUASHED out of shape then

"reshaped"...kinda looks like a childs first O in school.
5 - scuffs and marks around the button "hole"
6 - Lens wasnt even fitted in correctly, removed the end gold tab

and the lens fixture fell out...

Seriously, i dont know what the hells gone on with it, but it was

supposed to have been CHECKED and repaired if the price was

acceptable. Not butchered, thrown around, lost and broken. Please

explain whats gone on and what you intend to do about it. I can

post pics of before and after publicly if i need to. Prism is

bigger than i expected, but is very nice.

John

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potatorage

Default Re: The Viper
Ok, Please try be reasonable. I don't have much money and

honestly, I don't think a broken 80mW greenie is worth anything

near that amount.
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Sent 18th sept

I am being reasonable. A manufactured rating of 125mW from dragon

lasers (Online order price now at Price:US$299.99), which i said

LOOKED over 80mW just from my perspective even when under

performing. You yourself "valued it" unseen to be $150 (only

AFTER it being fixed / cleaned up as i requested) and then

destroyed it, not just the insides, but the host aswell... I

believe $100 is pretty reasonable, dont you? Like i have asked

three times, what do you have to offer?

John
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Yesterday, 12:01 AM
potatorage

Default Re: The Viper
When it reached me it was putting out 5mW at most. I would not

have destroyed an 80mW laser.
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sent 19th sept

Hi mate,
Some replies have come in and i would agree with Daguin, although

i know the full $150 is alittle too much, which is why either two

lenses OR a cheaper option of $100 should suffice. I shall give

you one week to decide and send your choice to me. If you need my

postal address or paypal address just ask. Thanks

John
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Yesterday, 12:01 AM
potatorage


Default Re: The Viper
When it reached me it was putting out 5mW at most. I would not

have destroyed an 80mW laser.
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sent 20th sept

So basically what your saying is, you fucked my laser after

saying you can clean it up, then you offer me something thats not

even worth the postage cost it would be to get it here, then say

you dont give a shit what you did so your doing a runner?

Wow...Jake comes into mind.

Im sure you have something better than defraction gratings and

mirrors to offer me. How old are you? just out of interest. You

dont seem to understand that you destroyed my property and think

its a joke and that you can just walk away from it . I can take

it further than PMs...please dont make me do so - not a threat,

just something you should think about

Yesterday, 12:26 AM
potatorage

Default Re: The Viper
Ok sounds good. I'll take the responses into consideration.
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Yesterday, 02:30 PM
potatorage

Default Re: The Viper
Sorry, I can not pay that amount of money, I simply do not have

that much in my paypal account. You can feel free to share this

experience with others, I just ask that you do not reveal my

address. Thanks!
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Today, 01:22 AM
potatorage

Default Re: The Viper
um, I have a diffraction grating sheet, it's like 8.5x11 inches,

13500 lines/inch + a lot of front surface mirrors

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Today, 05:37 AM
potatorage


Default Re: The Viper
I'm being completely honest with you-- I'm offering you what I am

willing to compensate you for. IF you decide to trash my

reputation, go ahead and do so-- this forum has turned into a

piece of shit; I think it's time for a change.
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Today, 02:31 PM
potatorage

Default Re: The Viper
I think the disagreement here is what your laser was worth AFTER

you sent it.


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20th sept

The laser worked fine for me, after it heated alittle, which is

the whole point in me sending it to you to get cleaned up. It

would be easier to sell if it started up full power straight

away...but now its totalled. I dont think you understand this at

all. The laser would work fine after a cleanup, but it was

broken...now im looking for compensation for it.

Some dudes selling defraction gratings for $1.50 per square inch,

and another persons offering $18 for LARGE front surface mirrors,

why would i accept that as compensation for a $150 laser? (Value

offered by yourself from pics given). Ive already lowered it for

you to $100 to make it easier.

Like i said, offer me something of value (Another laser maybe?

Laser parts? cash?) Anything that would suffice...dont take the

piss with very low value and useless objects . Im sick of

asking now to be honest, dont make me get "Debt collectors"

involved , they can be somewhat harsh and bump the amount owed

up alittle. Im a nice guy, im being VERY calm and cautious with

my words and actions PLUS im making it easier on you...dont take

liberties. Again, how old are you?

John


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Today, 04:55 PM
potatorage


Default Re: The Viper
Let me make this clear: The laser you sent me was 5mW. I let it

warm up or whatever, and it was still only 5mW. I tested it on my

meter, it was 5mW. I even used those really expensive batteries.

7mW.
I will not compensate you for an 80mW laser, that just isn't

going happen. I will, however compensate you for a 5mW laser. I

don't take threats very well, and plus, I'm under 18.
By the way, do you have a power meter reading for your laser?

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20th sept

Your under 18? and you thought you could clean up and repair my

$300 laser? well, that explains why you dont seem to give a shit.
The pictures of the beam and dot show its OVER 5mW, the laser was

sent to you to clean the diodes lens so that it could output its

full potential without having to be heated first. What made you

think you could do this?

Even if it was outputting 5mW, you still DESTROYED my $300 laser,

which is now completely useless...why did you think you could

just destroy it and think nothing of it? you even sent it back to

me knowing it was broken and didnt even think id mind? You didnt

even tell me it was broken...

If your under 18, then your probably living with your parents /

guardian...I suggest you inform them of whats going on - ill get

compensation of some sort one way or another...and no, im not

threatening you, nor have I. Like i said, i choose my words

carefully

I dont have a power meter reading, this is another reason i sent

it to you so it would be cleaned, metered and easier for me to

sell...

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Today, 06:15 PM
potatorage


Default Re: The Viper
um, I tried to find out what was wrong and ran into a few

problems. Your laser is not, and was not worth anywhere near

$300. I did meter it. 5mW. I'm sorry I broke it, I'll go buy you

a new 5mW CNI pen style laser if that makes you happy.


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20th sept

Well obviously not, i can get cni styles pretty cheap from my

supplier, which is where REMOVED got his batch from. The dragon

viper 125mW cost me over $300, its for sale on their site now for

$299. You offered $150 for it and im letting you off with just

having to compensate $100 for it - i told u im a nice guy...

It only output 5mW due to some crap on the diode lens, which is

what you needed to clean off in the first place, and you said you

could do it. If you told me you were under 18, i wouldnt have

sent it. Ive said this many times, the pics clearly show its over

5mW, its now dead, broken and mis-shaped. Stop going round in

circles with me, im not going to go away . As far as i see it,

you owe me up to $100 in either cash or items. Im being fair by

giving you one week (From Saturday) to come up with something.

After that, i have a multiple choice to make on how i can

retrieve it myself .
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Today, 07:32 PM
potatorage

Default Re: The Viper
ok. crap on a lens is not going to account for over a 1000% loss

in power. Do what you must, I am not going to compensate you for

more than what a 5mW is worth. You will not receive any more PMs

from me. Tell me if you want to accept my offer.


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20th sept

Ok, u want it the hard way? Let me know if u want me to scrap the

6 days left and i will. Ill start a thread now just to get the

ball rolling


Sorry thats a very long list, but sums up whats going on here...like i said, hes an immature scam who wont accept responsibility, even after destroying somebody elses property. Do not trade or deal with him.

John


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well that sounds like it was broke to begin with .isn't that the reason you sent it it was broke
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Sorry for your loss, In case you didn't know, potatorage is only about 15-16 IIRC. I don't know about you, but I probably wouldn't trust a highschool kid to to repair my lasers. In the future, I recommend checking the age of anyone you intend to do business with.

I am not discriminating against minors, I'm simply saying that a 15 year old probably hasn't been in the laser hobby for that long; And as a result, they probably don't have the level of experience. Unless the member is extremely knowledgeable and has a ton of experience, I probably wouldn't hand my laser over for repairs, mods, etc...

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Seems to me that you have every right to get the $150 he originally offered back, either in cash or in items. You are even letting him off by letting him pay only $100. IMO he should take that offer and pay now. He claimed to be able to fix the laser and was going to buy it. The laser was a $299 laser regardless of what it actually performed, and he had no right to destroy it even if it had only put out 1mW. You even have picture-proof that it was far more than the 5mW he claims.
If he even managed to destroy the host he must have thought it was a joke and battered it with a hammer or something - it sounds completely absurd to me!

You have been more than reasonable. I hope he pays up!
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Ok. I'm sorry that I messed up your laser but it was already broken. But also consider this: I can't give you what I don't have.
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Ok. I'm sorry that I messed up your laser but it was already broken. But also consider this: I can't give you what I don't have.

wait your admitting breaking it
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Wait a sec, the pics prove it wasnt broken. I asked a question on here as to why it started off dim, then brightened up after a short time. One member told me to clean the diode lens, which i sent it to you for. I didnt know you were under 18, obviously i wouldnt have sent it. You have no knowledge of cleaning lasers up, so why take the opertunity with a $300 laser?

I could have sent it to Daguin, but he told me to send to someone in the UK...but seeing as you were interested in buying it, i sent it to you. The laser was listed on another forum for sale, which is why i wanted it cleaning up and metered. You destroyed it, surely you need to pay for it...Goes without saying.

You have had it for 8 months, and in that time you broke it and sent it back, why not get a paper round or start saving your allowances to repay me for it? Did you honestly think i wouldnt notice or mind that you broke it?

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I'm not paying for it because I don't believe that the laser was worth that much.
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Ok. I'm sorry that I messed up your laser but it was already broken. But also consider this: I can't give you what I don't have.
Firstly(as J_L) already mentioned, you admit to butchering the guy's laser; Secondly, you say "feel free to share your experience..." and "this forum has turned into a piece of shit; it's time for a change"... To me, it shows that you butchered the guy's laser, you don't give a damn about your rep and you're now essentially a scammer...

As for your "I don't think the laser is worth that much", if you sent in a trashy car to the mechanic and they totally destroy it, would you like it if they say "I ain't payin for it cause it's a POS"?

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WOW This Portatorage guy is very irresponsible.


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piece of shit; I think it's time for a change."

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my offer stands i have a 97% new black cni host minus the internals and end caps (gold ring is there BTW) i offer in good faith if you want it to help on repaires

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I guess so.
And you don't mind becoming one of those people you once insulted/complained about?
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It does not matter what you think it was worth, you offered an amount of money for it, claimed to be able to clean it, apparently (although you are probably lying) the laser had dropped to 7mW max when you got it.. at this point, instead of saying "no thanks" and admitting you did not know how to fix it and did not want it, you kept it for 8 months (!!) and completely destroyed it.

What you think the laser is worth would only be relevant if you wanted to buy it and were trying to get the price down.

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And you don't mind becoming one of those people you once insulted/complained about?
Not that much. To be honest it was not intentional. I offered him a new 5mW but I don't think I would be able to pay off $100. Also: I don't respond well to threats so I sometimes say dumb things.
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You ruined something you offered $150 for and held onto for 8 months. You are being offered to pay only $100.
Even if you have no moral issues with what you have done - think about it.. your choice here is basically to either be an outcast scammer and probably be banned, or get a paper round or borrow some cash to pay for what you did.

You apparently own a LPM - wouldn't it feel like a bit of a waste to own that if you could never again get a laser to test on that LPM because you refused to pay back $100?
I take it lasers are a pretty big hobby to you, and right now you may be saying goodbye to your main source of laser knowledge and materials.

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