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The idea that sound energy would not be created simply because no one is there to hear it is ridiculous, now if you want to debate the literal definition of ( a noise ) being sound that one can hear then you can argue the definition of a word, but sound energy would be made by a falling tree regardless of anyone being within earshot or not.

It's like saying if a deft person saw a tree fall with no one else around would it make a sound ?

How about if a blind person heard a tree fall with no one else around, would there really be a falling tree if no one could see it ?

If a blind person turns on a light switch alone in a closet will the bulb fail to produce any light, could electrons flow through the filament without photons being emitted if no one can see it ?

Here's the rub: Why would the MATRIX make a tree fall without sound just because no one was there to hear it ? Why would the MATRIX make a tree fall at all if no one was there to see it, the idea that gravity would work without anyone being there to see it but sound would not is silly, if the boogie man, I mean MATRIX is going to skip the sound then why not skip the falling tree as well, after all no one is there to see or hear it ;)
 
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I think their testing methods are flawed, then they love to extrapolate to the extreme, just like the big bang all started from a pin head of ultra dense bla bla bla, they don't know this, it's just a theory and so is this wave of possibility bla bla bla, they don't know this, all they know is a avalanche photodiode didn't detect a photon, but that is not proof that it wasn't there, only that they didn't detect it.

For a long time they said nothing escapes a black hole, now it's nothing escapes except the jets of matter shooting out. LOL

In the past theory's have been abandoned in the light of new facts, for now it's just unproven theory based somewhat on tests that can be flawed or only show that something hard to see was not detected.

We don't see ice cubes freezing in the freezer, but we put water in the cube tray, close the door, and without observing it the water freezes, if we don't wait long enough it will be partially frozen, it happens without anyone observing as do so many things.

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It seems like fundamental logic that this theory that nothing happens until someone is watching is disproven by the fact that there is so much we already know happens when no one is watching.

When I open my refrigerator and observe inside where no one else has been observing gravity does not turn back on, everything is not falling from the roof. Beware of easy answers that others dole out when trying to validate an unproven and contested theory, look for counter evidence as hard as you look to validate.
 
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According to many physicist more than knee deep into quantum, well, top of the head deep into it, nothing happens unless there is an observer present, everything is a wave of possibilities which will not collapse to become made up of particles, such as trees which can fall, until observed. So, no sound, no nothing, no tree for that matter, unless observed.

Sounds like physicists trolling for funding more than anything about the real world everyone knows exists. That is what they do for a living--make up problems that don't exist to get paid for to solve them--much like lawyers do. Is how the eat and pay for life ---so take all the make believe and imaginary BS with a large grain of salt--if it is useful to you as a tool , use it but don't confuse it with any absolute real thing. :crackup:

I understand and you have great points, but if you chase that rabbit hole long enough and search around the inexplicable conclusion is that's how it works.

Chasing the rabbit hole is transitioning form reality over and into an imaginary world that doesn't exist.
All of quantum is just another artificial human mind created lattice with which to look at what you already know ---quantum colored glasses, so to speak.
Just a tool that some find useful for certain purposes--like any other.

It seems like fundamental logic that this theory that nothing happens until someone is watching is disproven by the fact that there is so much we already know happens when no one is watching.

When I open my refrigerator and observe inside where no one else has been observing gravity does not turn back on, everything is not falling from the roof. Beware of easy answers that others dole out when trying to validate an unproven and contested theory, look for counter evidence as hard as you look to validate.

Exactly

That does make sense on the surface, but the probabilities of what would have happened come into play to produce exactly that, once observed. Not that there isn't a whole lot of shared observation going on right now and has been for ages, so we have become co-creators making our reality real.

What makes sense as a practical matter is that there is no possibility or probability of anything happening other than what does actually happen. Proof is that what happened, happened --- nothing else could or did happen.
Real universe and everything that happens in it is not an imaginary probability invented as employment by wack job physicists and people with no grip on reality.--all of that is just a$$hats playing games and has been taken to almost a mental hospital level for what reason---clearly for $$$s reasons.

Because our minds deal exclusively with ideas, our minds treat in-distinctively the physical and the non-physical.
In reverse our minds find it natural to project back into the real physical world non-physical concepts and the imagined.
In short, the physical and the non physical are identical, both are ideas within the scope of our thinking.
That is a direct cause of much of the confusion and many of the problems people have everywhere in the world and have always created for themselves --has been the same old same old since the beginning of the human species.

Because we totally lack cognizance of the intrinsic structure of real entities such as light rays and gravity, we cannot judge ourselves whether our mental concept is fictitious or not. Down three levels of abstraction later, the deeper we dig the stronger the confusion is.

There is no deeper meaning beyond that humans have a unique mental ability or disability, whicheer you want to call it, in that they can and do address their own imagination/thoughts as if they external fact/reality.

Bottom line: There are two kinds of human thoughts:
Those that handle the physical that does exist and...those that handle the non-physical that is fiction that doesn't exist.
Even though we have no idea what matter, gravitation and light rays are (in reality), and even though our human interpretations of these things are only ideas (concepts and pictures) we know that these ideas do coincide to real things.
We can touch matter, gravitation makes an object fall, and light from the sun heats our skin.

Bottom line: No matter what our scientific theories say, no matter what our human religions say, reality remains a mystery. It's as simple as that.
That is my take on the subject.




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Well, this is the video thread, and you asked, so.....

 
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There isn't much more than air in human flatulence. It comes from all the air you swallow everyday. So, if you saw someone light a fart on fire, you were tricked. :na:
 
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There isn't much more than air in human flatulence. It comes from all the air you swallow everyday. So, if you saw someone light a fart on fire, you were tricked. :na:

Yeah but if that person ate a "Double Whopper" that day, the bovine intake produces 'deadly' methane gas exhaust. {see what I did there?}

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There isn't much more than air in human flatulence. It comes from all the air you swallow everyday. So, if you saw someone light a fart on fire, you were tricked. :na:
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"Intestinal gas is composed of varying quantities of exogenous sources and endogenous sources. The exogenous gases are swallowed (aerophagia) when eating or drinking or increased swallowing during times of excessive salivation (as might occur when nauseated or as the result of gastroesophageal reflux disease). The endogenous gases are produced either as a by-product of digesting certain types of food, or of incomplete digestion, as is the case during steatorrhea. Anything that causes food to be incompletely digested by the stomach or small intestine may cause flatulence when the material arrives in the large intestine, due to fermentation by yeast or prokaryotes normally or abnormally present in the gastrointestinal tract.

Flatulence-producing foods are typically high in certain polysaccharides, especially oligosaccharides such as inulin. Those foods include beans, lentils, dairy products, onions, garlic, spring onions, leeks, turnips, swedes, radishes, sweet potatoes, potatoes, cashews, Jerusalem artichokes, oats, wheat, and yeast in breads. Cauliflower, broccoli, cabbage, Brussels sprouts and other cruciferous vegetables that belong to the genus Brassica are commonly reputed to not only increase flatulence, but to increase the pungency of the flatus.

In beans, endogenous gases seem to arise from complex oligosaccharides (carbohydrates) that are particularly resistant to digestion by mammals, but are readily digestible by gut flora – microorganisms (methane-producing archaea; Methanobrevibacter smithii) that inhabit the digestive tract. These oligosaccharides pass through the upper intestine largely unchanged, and when they reach the lower intestine, bacteria feed on them, producing copious amounts of flatus."

"Flatus (intestinal gas) is mostly produced as a byproduct of bacterial fermentation in the gastrointestinal (GI) tract, especially the colon. There are reports of aerophagia (excessive air swallowing) causing excessive intestinal gas, but this is considered rare. Over 99% of the volume of flatus is composed of non-smelly gases. These include oxygen, nitrogen, carbon dioxide, hydrogen and methane. Nitrogen is not produced in the gut, but a component of environmental air. Patients who have excessive intestinal gas that is mostly composed of nitrogen have aerophagia.

Hydrogen, carbon dioxide and methane are all produced in the gut and contribute 74% of the volume of flatus in normal subjects. Methane and hydrogen are flammable, and so flatus containing adequate amounts of these can be ignited. "
From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flatulence

See: Patient burned by mid-surgery explosion when laser ignites fart - NY Daily News
and
"Colonic gas explosion during therapeutic colonoscopy" https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17879396


:thinking: Maybe laser hobbyists need more than just laser goggles when using high power laser pointers to be safe, sometimes :crackup:

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:thinking: Maybe laser hobbyists need more than just laser goggles when using high power laser pointers to be safe, sometimes :crackup:

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LOL Encap, maybe we should amend the Safety Thread for noobs.....

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WARNING: Do not shine lasers at your or another individuals buttocks, as flatulence can lead to an increased risk of explosion.

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WARNING: Do not shine lasers at your or another individuals buttocks, as flatulence can lead to an increased risk of explosion.

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Maybe a new warning label for lasers.

With "While Laser Is in Use" or just "Laser in Use" added
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Or perhaps just this one:

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