According to many physicist more than knee deep into quantum, well, top of the head deep into it, nothing happens unless there is an observer present, everything is a wave of possibilities which will not collapse to become made up of particles, such as trees which can fall, until observed. So, no sound, no nothing, no tree for that matter, unless observed.
Sounds like physicists trolling for funding more than anything about the real world everyone knows exists. That is what they do for a living--make up problems that don't exist to get paid for to solve them--much like lawyers do. Is how the eat and pay for life ---so take all the make believe and imaginary BS with a large grain of salt--if it is useful to you as a tool , use it but don't confuse it with any absolute real thing. :crackup:
I understand and you have great points, but if you chase that rabbit hole long enough and search around the inexplicable conclusion is that's how it works.
Chasing the rabbit hole is transitioning form reality over and into an imaginary world that doesn't exist.
All of quantum is just another artificial human mind created lattice with which to look at what you already know ---quantum colored glasses, so to speak.
Just a tool that some find useful for certain purposes--like any other.
It seems like fundamental logic that this theory that nothing happens until someone is watching is disproven by the fact that there is so much we already know happens when no one is watching.
When I open my refrigerator and observe inside where no one else has been observing gravity does not turn back on, everything is not falling from the roof. Beware of easy answers that others dole out when trying to validate an unproven and contested theory, look for counter evidence as hard as you look to validate.
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That does make sense on the surface, but the probabilities of what would have happened come into play to produce exactly that, once observed. Not that there isn't a whole lot of shared observation going on right now and has been for ages, so we have become co-creators making our reality real.
What makes sense as a practical matter is that there is no possibility or probability of anything happening other than what does actually happen. Proof is that what happened, happened --- nothing else could or did happen.
Real universe and everything that happens in it is not an imaginary probability invented as employment by wack job physicists and people with no grip on reality.--all of that is just a$$hats playing games and has been taken to almost a mental hospital level for what reason---clearly for $$$s reasons.
Because our minds deal exclusively with ideas, our minds treat in-distinctively the physical and the non-physical.
In reverse our minds find it natural to project back into the real physical world non-physical concepts and the imagined.
In short, the physical and the non physical are identical, both are ideas within the scope of our thinking.
That is a direct cause of much of the confusion and many of the problems people have everywhere in the world and have always created for themselves --has been the same old same old since the beginning of the human species.
Because we totally lack cognizance of the intrinsic structure of real entities such as light rays and gravity, we cannot judge ourselves whether our mental concept is fictitious or not. Down three levels of abstraction later, the deeper we dig the stronger the confusion is.
There is no deeper meaning beyond that humans have a unique mental ability or disability, whicheer you want to call it, in that they can and do address their own imagination/thoughts as if they external fact/reality.
Bottom line: There are two kinds of human thoughts:
Those that handle the physical that does exist and...those that handle the non-physical that is fiction that doesn't exist.
Even though we have no idea what matter, gravitation and light rays are (in reality), and even though our human interpretations of these things are only ideas (concepts and pictures) we know that these ideas do coincide to real things.
We can touch matter, gravitation makes an object fall, and light from the sun heats our skin.
Bottom line: No matter what our scientific theories say, no matter what our human religions say, reality remains a mystery. It's as simple as that.
That is my take on the subject.
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