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**** True >200mW 532nm S-KY PGL-200 handheld laser

Re: **** True >200mW 532nm 'Aries' like handheld l

exactly. I've been wanting a good high power green for awhile now and the cheapest 200mW green i've seen is like $650 when it's on sale. it's also rated higher than it is as proven by other forums members.

This one is just as powerful as advertised (also as proven by a respected forum member) and shows thats it's actually a bit better than expected. plus he's worked out a deal to be able to test EVERY single unit before it's shipped to us, something NO other company or person offered right now.

Thats peace of mind i'm willing to throw my money at.
 





Re: **** True >200mW 532nm 'Aries' like handheld l

Hey Guys,

After careful reveiw of the info thus far, I still feel it to be a decent buy.  [smiley=thumbsup.gif] Here's Why.

Think about it, where do you want the most power from your laser? Right off the Bat! That is where this thing Shines! Who likes to wait for a warm up. You want to Pop That Ballon or Light That Match as soon as you Press the Trigger! True that the warm up versions hold a higher power later in time, but at what cost, double? And you still have to Wait on it.

This one Will Impress Anyone Right From the Get Go, (350mw Plus!) Right when you need it too, and it will still have a very respectable output later in the run. (150-200mw) That is still be better than any 200-300 Dollar Version, which only nets you 10 seconds of decent output before they drop to nothing.

So as I see it at this point, it may not be all what we thought at first, but it Still Fits the Bill for what it is and what it does, Right? Plus it does it when you would want it too, which I see as an Added Bonus for this. And it is still less than half of a Near Competitor.

So I am still in at this point, and hope that the others will see it that way as well.  ;)

Just a Thought, is the Price Set in Stone on these? Given the Reviews, is there Any Leverage Here for Negotiations on the Price? Just a Thought, Every $$$ Saved is a $$$ Saved!
;D

Thanks!
Also, is this Deal on Hold Given the Bad Press Thus Far? What is the Projected Date for the Payment Page as it Stands Now?

Regards,
Joe
 
Re: **** True >200mW 532nm 'Aries' like handheld l

Can someone please answer my questions!!! I've sent PM's and everything!

1.) How much is the total cost of this laser including PayPal fees?
2.) How much is postage to the UK?
3.) When is the deadline for payment?

I'm sure I'm not alone with needing the answers to these questions.


Dan :-)
 
Re: **** True >200mW 532nm 'Aries' like handheld l

iv got somwhere and im in uk paying 385 for laser+postage to uk and a bit ontop
 
Re: **** True >200mW 532nm 'Aries' like handheld l

OK, that's getting there, but still doesn't answer them all.

1.) Can I pay via PayPal, and what fees will this incur?
2.) Where did it say about having a focus or not - which one is better and which one would you recommend?
 
Re: **** True >200mW 532nm 'Aries' like handheld l

I think Jack ( bootleg2go ) is right that the apparent quality of the internals are cheap. Even leadlights have proper smd component boards and don't use carbon resistors. These even have the appearance of prototype boards with hotfixes in place.

I'd really like to see the quality of the internals and the optics myself. I think that's the true measure of a laser's quality and longevity, along with the diode.

There's very few people besides myself and maybe 1 or two others here that are capable of troubleshooting and replacing the diodes in these things, and the vast majority don;t even have the skill to replace the $2 switch.

Also FWIW most chinese diodes are crap ( IMHO ). they are good for a while but long term they just don't last like a good nlite or JDSU or alfalight or another US made diode.

With the RPL and Hercules and nova lasers thes diodes are also underdriven and overspecced. They all run a 2 or 2.5 watt 808 diode below 80% of it's duty rating. I'll guarantee these diodes are more than likely being runn at full duty.
 
Re: **** True >200mW 532nm 'Aries' like handheld l

danielbriggs said:
OK, that's getting there, but still doesn't answer them all.

1.) Can I pay via PayPal, and what fees will this incur?
2.) Where did it say about having a focus or not - which one is better and which one would you recommend?
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Yes, see PM for paypal instructions.

I was able to disassemble and focus the 'non-focusable' laser, but I imagine that the focusable one would be easier. As it was, the one that came to me the focus wasn't too bad, but not laser show quality. So it's up to you and how down and dirty you're willing to get with the optics.
 
Re: **** True >200mW 532nm 'Aries' like handheld l

OK, thanks, providing I can get the cash, I'm leaning towards the focusable one, purely for sake of simplicity. I take it then you would be able to collimate it or focus like a pin dot, (sort of like an Aixiz module design but better)
 
Re: **** True >200mW 532nm 'Aries' like handheld l

So what is the conclusion?

Are these worth anything or not?

It appears to be cheaper than thought, so it comes down to performance, which doesn't seem bad for the price, so it then comes down to, will it live for any amount of time? If it will, it still looks good.

If you think it only has 10 minutes use a day for several months before it dies, then I don't see it to be a very good deal.

So we need input!!!

If needed, who their could/would replace the diode and what would be the cost to re-build this unit correctly?

What can this be built for, minus the barrel?

Please let us know!

Thanks!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
 
Re: **** True >200mW 532nm 'Aries' like handheld l

danielbriggs said:
OK, thanks, providing I can get the cash, I'm leaning towards the focusable one, purely for sake of simplicity. I take it then you would be able to collimate it or focus like a pin dot, (sort of like an Aixiz module design but better)
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Once collimated, the beam is about 1.8mm dia. not a pin dot, but certainly not thick. If you want, you can focus it to near a pin dot.. but it won't be collimated.
 
Re: **** True >200mW 532nm 'Aries' like handheld l

Well Joe, if you taking into consideration that building a green laser in the first place is a horrible pain plus the parts are not easy to come by or work with. I'd say this is a hell of a value.

This is comming from someone that really wants to build one from scratch and has done his research and moved toward building a green from scratch.

I still might do it, but not till I get some very specific parts. in the mean time this thing looks mean.
 
Re: **** True >200mW 532nm 'Aries' like handheld l

DrL --

Originally, this was advertised as a PG-200. Now it's listed as a PL-200 --Difference or typo ?? As for the big through hole components, higher current is usually better handeled by larger components.

Mike
 
Re: **** True >200mW 532nm 'Aries' like handheld l

Oops, typo. thanks!
 
Re: **** True >200mW 532nm 'Aries' like handheld l

Hello Archane,

Thanks for the input. Yes, I found that trying to build seems to be very part specific and those specific parts just don't seem to be around, or at any good price that is.
So I Totally Understand there.

So what is Final Conclusion on the Life this thing may have? I know nothing is wrote in stone, but other than that one Post stating it would not last 4-5 Months I think it was, is there any other Negatives in that area? Or do you think it will Most Likely Live Just Fine?

That is my ONLY hang-up for the moment. If it not Really being Overdriven, then I would imagine that it will live just fine and that post was an upset person at this laser for no particular reason?

Let me know someone please as soon as you can!

Thanks! Joe
 
Re: **** True >200mW 532nm 'Aries' like handheld l

With it not being overdirven, it will live just fine for general use. With the portable design, it's not reccommended for continuous use.
 
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